Stroke or Blonde Moment?

[DamnYankee]

On what?

 

[WinterBorn]

On what?

Dancing again? What has everyone been discussing with Dixie on this thread?

 

[DamnYankee]

Again you avoid a simple question. No wonder your wife left you.

 

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I don't speak for Dixie; just me. I ax'd anyone here if they can split one dollar equally among three people so that they each have the equal amount of money. Apparently you can't, so you offer me two examples that are unrelated where you can divide something by three.

A 12" ruler can be divided equally into three parts because it is an object. The number 12 can be divided equally by three into whole numbers. $1.20 can be divided equally into 3 as well, but again, that's not my question.

Care to answer it?

Yes moron.... No one suggested that everything can be physically split into equal thirds. No one. However you can state mathematically how it is done.

A dollar split into thirds would be 33 1/3 cents. That is how it would look mathematically.

Ditzie has been arguing that simple things like a 12" ruler cannot be split into equal thirds.

You appeared to be supporting that nonsense with your 'can you split a dollar' comment.

 

[DamnYankee]

Yes moron....

A dollar split into thirds would be 33 1/3 cents. That is how it would look mathematically.

Again, this is what I ax'd you: split one dollar equally among three people so that they each have the equal amount of money.

There's no such thing as a 1/3 penny, so are you suggesting that you cut it into thirds? That would make it worthless as money. So apparently you gave me the answer on how to split 99 cents into three equal parts.

And you have the gall to call me a moron.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Yes moron.... No one suggested that everything can be physically split into equal thirds. No one. However you can state mathematically how it is done.

Everyone who has disagreed with me, has stated that anything can be split into equal thirds, with no remainder. That IS the argument.

A dollar split into thirds would be 33 1/3 cents. That is how it would look mathematically.

But what is 1/3 cent? DEFINE THE VALUE! You can't split a penny into three parts, so which "THIRD" gets to keep the extra penny? And WHY is there an extra penny, if ONE can be divided equally by THREE? You've not answered his question, you just keep regurgitating nonsense and ridiculing me over stating mathematical facts.

Ditzie has been arguing that simple things like a 12" ruler cannot be split into equal thirds.

NOWHERE HAVE I EVER POSTED SUCH A THING!

READ CAREFULLY.... EVERYTHING CAN BE SPLIT INTO THIRDS! WE DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS ALL DAY LONG! THIRDS EXIST! DIXIE HAS NEVER, NOR EVER WILL, MAKE THE CLAIM THAT THIRDS DO NOT EXIST, OR THINGS CAN'T BE DIVIDED INTO THIRDS, OR EVEN, THAT WE CAN'T DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS AND PRESUME THEM TO BE EQUAL! DO YOU COMPREHEND WHAT YOU JUST READ? PLEASE READ IT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE! IF YOU HAVE THE SLIGHTEST NOTION THAT WHAT I JUST POSTED, SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THIRDS NOT EXISTING, OR NOT BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE BY 3, PLEASE READ IT AGAIN! THAT HAS NEVER BEEN MY ARGUMENT!

 

[DamnYankee]

NOWHERE HAVE I EVER POSTED SUCH A THING!

Are you saying Superfreak created another straw man argument?

 

[WinterBorn]

Again you avoid a simple question. No wonder your wife left you.

Another sidestep. lol

Nevermind, if the subject scares you so much leave it alone.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Are you saying Superfreak created another straw man argument?

It seems to be, certain pinheads here, want to misconstrue what has been said, and pretend that I have made some bizarre claim that isn't supported by mathematics. All I have ever posted, is that 1 divided by 3, produces a remainder, and thus, can not be absolutely equal. We presume absolute equality because we have to, in order to make math work and move on with our lives. The remainder is simply calculated and divided to a point that it is no longer relative, it doesn't matter that one of the three thirds assumes it's value, it doesn't make a discernible difference to the value of each third, and we can presume them equal. Such is the case in the ruler example, our 'criteria' for the thirds is a unit of measure known as inches, each piece has 4 inches, of the 12 inch ruler... we presume equal thirds. There is no guarantee the actual molecular volumes of the three thirds are the same, we aren't defining 'equal' to that degree, only by the printed ruler marks on the wooden ruler. The same can be done for cakes and pies.

 

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Everyone who has disagreed with me, has stated that anything can be split into equal thirds, with no remainder. That IS the argument.

No ditzie. We have stated that you can break down anything into thirds mathematically. It is you who proclaims that 1/3 has no value. If it has no value then it equals ZERO.

But what is 1/3 cent? DEFINE THE VALUE! You can't split a penny into three parts, so which "THIRD" gets to keep the extra penny? And WHY is there an extra penny, if ONE can be divided equally by THREE? You've not answered his question, you just keep regurgitating nonsense and ridiculing me over stating mathematical facts.

IT IS MATHEMATICAL YOU FUCKING MORON... NOT LITERAL.

THIS IS A QUESTION OF MATHEMATICS.

you are talking literally splitting something. You are not talking about doing so mathematically. Until you learn the difference you will remain in your present state of ignorance on the topic.



NOWHERE HAVE I EVER POSTED SUCH A THING!

READ CAREFULLY.... EVERYTHING CAN BE SPLIT INTO THIRDS! WE DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS ALL DAY LONG! THIRDS EXIST! DIXIE HAS NEVER, NOR EVER WILL, MAKE THE CLAIM THAT THIRDS DO NOT EXIST, OR THINGS CAN'T BE DIVIDED INTO THIRDS, OR EVEN, THAT WE CAN'T DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS AND PRESUME THEM TO BE EQUAL! DO YOU COMPREHEND WHAT YOU JUST READ? PLEASE READ IT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE! IF YOU HAVE THE SLIGHTEST NOTION THAT WHAT I JUST POSTED, SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THIRDS NOT EXISTING, OR NOT BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE BY 3, PLEASE READ IT AGAIN! THAT HAS NEVER BEEN MY ARGUMENT![/QUOTE]

from ditzie: Inches are a man made unit of measure. I never claimed that something can't be divided into thirds, or that what we divide into thirds can't be presumed to be equal thirds. Those are claims you think I have made, but they only exist inside your pinheaded mind. "33 1/3" is not defined as a value. We presume it to be "1/3" and the remainder value is assumed by one of the three parts. Again, I refer you to the simple math problem above... fill in the blank with a defined value, and you win! You've proven me wrong! Until you can do that, you haven't proven me wrong, and you can't... math is math.

In the above you get back to the nonsense of 'we presume the remainder goes with one of the thirds'

from ditzie: Really? A 12" wooden ruler measures atoms and microns? I didn't know that! Amazing invention! So you can divide a printed wooden ruler into three equal parts of 4", and each part will contain the exact same number of molecules? Like magic, huh?

Above you attempt some outlandish diversionary tactic, while simultaneously questioning if we can divide a 'printed wooden ruler' (lmao) into thirds where each third has the same number of molecules. Again... way too fucking funny.

from ditzie: .333e is a value, it is undefined, however. Unless you resolve "e", which you can't, it will always and forever be undefined. We can assume the value, for the sake of being able to divide things into thirds, and the remainder is so insignificant it becomes irrelevant, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Fractions are representatives of value, not values.

again, you pretend that the remainder is simply forgotten when we divide things that ARE equally divisible by thirds.

from ditzie: .333e + .333e + .333e = .999e .....hmmmm... something is missing!

The above was a direct response from you to the simple... and I do mean simple.... math problem of 1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 = ONE. Not with a remainder. EXACTLY ONE. You still pretend that is not the case, because again you insist that the only way to represent portions is with decimals.

from ditzie: What I defined as being a third + What I defined as being a third + What I defined as being a third = ONE! ....voila!

The above is ditzie pretending that I 'Superfreak' just invented the concept that 1/3 is equal to a third.

more desperation from ditzie: The VALUE of 1/3 depends on what 1/3 represents the value of. 1/3's value in a 12 oz. cup of coffee is not the same as 1/3's value in a 15 oz. cup of coffee, two distinctly different values for the same "number" ....odd, huh? Not when you understand, 1/3 is not a value or number, it is a REPRESENTATIVE of value. We made it and said, this is what it means! 1/3 has NO value until you know what it is referring to! 1/3 of WHAT?

Again ditzie... what was your point in the above? (other than to show your ignorance again) Do answer this time. Is 25% of a 12oz cup of coffee the same as 25% of a 15oz cup of coffee?

 

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It seems to be, certain pinheads here, want to misconstrue what has been said, and pretend that I have made some bizarre claim that isn't supported by mathematics. All I have ever posted, is that 1 divided by 3, produces a remainder, and thus, can not be absolutely equal. We presume absolute equality because we have to, in order to make math work and move on with our lives. The remainder is simply calculated and divided to a point that it is no longer relative, it doesn't matter that one of the three thirds assumes it's value, it doesn't make a discernible difference to the value of each third, and we can presume them equal. Such is the case in the ruler example, our 'criteria' for the thirds is a unit of measure known as inches, each piece has 4 inches, of the 12 inch ruler... we presume equal thirds. There is no guarantee the actual molecular volumes of the three thirds are the same, we aren't defining 'equal' to that degree, only by the printed ruler marks on the wooden ruler. The same can be done for cakes and pies.

One divided by three... in MATHEMATICAL TERMS is written as

1/3

Yes or no?

If you have 1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 it equals 3/3 which equals ONE. They are THREE EQUAL parts. There is only a remainder if you try converting fractions to decimals.

 

[DamnYankee]

Is that why she left you alone?

 

[WinterBorn]

Is that why she left you alone?

Who?

 

[DamnYankee]

Your wife.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

No ditzie. We have stated that you can break down anything into thirds mathematically. It is you who proclaims that 1/3 has no value. If it has no value then it equals ZERO.

I never said 1/3 has no value. I said 1/3 is a fractional representation of value. It represents a third of the whole. This doesn't give us a defined value of 1/3, and you continue to avoid the mathematical obvious. 1/3, or more precisely, 0.3333e is not a defined value unless you can define "e". You haven't, and I doubt you can. You are going to get 1/3 of the dollar, but are you going to get 33 cents or 34 cents? One of the thirds will have 34 cents, the other two will get 33, that's just really simple mathematics.

IT IS MATHEMATICAL YOU FUCKING MORON... NOT LITERAL.

Oh, that's a really GREAT sig line! I'll have to use it!

THIS IS A QUESTION OF MATHEMATICS.

There is no "question of mathematics" ...either something is supported by math, or it's not... no such thing as a "mathematical opinion"! 1 divided by 3, produces a remainder... always has, always will.



NOWHERE HAVE I EVER POSTED SUCH A THING!

READ CAREFULLY.... EVERYTHING CAN BE SPLIT INTO THIRDS! WE DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS ALL DAY LONG! THIRDS EXIST! DIXIE HAS NEVER, NOR EVER WILL, MAKE THE CLAIM THAT THIRDS DO NOT EXIST, OR THINGS CAN'T BE DIVIDED INTO THIRDS, OR EVEN, THAT WE CAN'T DIVIDE THINGS INTO THIRDS AND PRESUME THEM TO BE EQUAL! DO YOU COMPREHEND WHAT YOU JUST READ? PLEASE READ IT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE! IF YOU HAVE THE SLIGHTEST NOTION THAT WHAT I JUST POSTED, SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THIRDS NOT EXISTING, OR NOT BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE BY 3, PLEASE READ IT AGAIN! THAT HAS NEVER BEEN MY ARGUMENT!

In the above you get back to the nonsense of 'we presume the remainder goes with one of the thirds'[/QUOTE]

Because that is exactly what we do. When calculating, we can use the presumption of equal thirds because we can predict the remainder will forever be recurring. Each third will forever have a portion of the remainder value for all eternity, and so it doesn't interfere with presumed equality. We do not have to resolve it to make math work, we simply calculate it down to insignificance. Look.. IF we are splitting an apple into "thirds" we might just need to "look" at each piece to judge them "equal" thirds... or a pie... if we are splitting a dollar, we will have a penny left over, maybe we flip for it? If we are splitting a ruler, maybe we use the 4" mark... if we are sending men into space, or operating on a brain... maybe we calculate the remainder a little more precisely... maybe the remainder carries to the trillionths... it eventually becomes a non-factor in any equation. BUT... the remainder will forever be there. It does exist.

again, you pretend that the remainder is simply forgotten when we divide things that ARE equally divisible by thirds.

Again, I never said you couldn't divide things "equally" into thirds. That's the whole point here... what is EQUAL? To be definitively and provably EQUAL, each of the three parts must contain the exact same value. Not close to, not in the proximity of, but the EXACT same value. With the case of "1/3" there is a remainder which is eternally unresolved. You have not defined the value, because it remains unresolved for eternity. You can't define the value, because you can't calculate to eternity, you must ASSUME the value, and one of the "equal thirds" has to, at some point in calculation, ASSUME the remainder value.

The above was a direct response from you to the simple... and I do mean simple.... math problem of 1/3 + 1/3 +1/3 = ONE. Not with a remainder. EXACTLY ONE. You still pretend that is not the case, because again you insist that the only way to represent portions is with decimals.

YES... and 1 foot + 1 foot + 1 foot = 1 Yard!
1 stooge + 1 stooge + 1 stooge = The Three Stooges...
I GET IT!

The above is ditzie pretending that I 'Superfreak' just invented the concept that 1/3 is equal to a third.

No, you, Superfreak, apparently believe 3x3>9!

Again ditzie... what was your point in the above? (other than to show your ignorance again) Do answer this time. Is 25% of a 12oz cup of coffee the same as 25% of a 15oz cup of coffee?

My point (which you won't believe) has always been, to see how many idiots would argue something so simple and trivial, just to be right. It's a brick wall, because it's math, and math has nothing to do with your opinion. Percentages are much like fractional representations of value. They don't mean anything without more information. They are useful to illustrate why you haven't defined the values of your "equal thirds" because percentage is expressed in base 10. 3x3=9... 10-9=1... drop the 0... 3 goes 3 times... 3x3=9... forever and always. You have not resolved the problem. A remainder persists. It will always and forever persist. You can assume the value to be insignificant at some point, and it becomes irrelevant, and that's what we do with rulers, pies, airplanes, rockets, all kinds of things. I've never claimed we didn't, or that 1/3 doesn't exist, or 1/3 isn't real... these are all made up emo-memes from people who really desperately WANT this to be some monumental brain fart on my part. It's really been a hoot to watch how many responses the subject gets, every time, never fails... hundreds... thousands of posts... and ONE STILL CAN'T BE DIVIDED BY THREE WITHOUT A REMAINDER!

:lmao:

 

[WinterBorn]

Your wife.

My wife left me?

 

[DamnYankee]

Yes. That's why you chose the name "Solitary". How sad.

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes. That's why you chose the name "Solitary". How sad.

That would be sad indeed. But I must have forgotten that I posted anything resembling this story you told. Care to cite with a link? Or post some additional info to show this is accurate?

 

[DamnYankee]

Why would I waste my time?

 

[WinterBorn]

Why would I waste my time?

To prove you are not a liar? Because I can say, without a shadow of doubt, my wife never left me.