For the record, Damocles thinks it inappropriate for the President of the United States to deliver a speech to schoolchildren but thinks it's A-OK for John Stossel to do the same.
Keep up the good work, Damo!
For the record, Damocles thinks it inappropriate for the President of the United States to deliver a speech to schoolchildren but thinks it's A-OK for John Stossel to do the same.
Keep up the good work, Damo!
Yes. Again, I said...
"You have no idea if these videos cover his political opinion, therefore this is an ad hom based in ignorance"
The reality is, if they were overtly political Huffpo, the ACLU or some other political entity would have been all over them like white on rice by now. These videos have been out for a while.
You are simply assigning an opinion to me that doesn't exist. The very epitome of straw man. Hacktacularly disingenuous.For the record, Damocles thinks it inappropriate for the President of the United States to deliver a speech to schoolchildren but thinks it's A-OK for John Stossel to do the same.
Keep up the good work, Damo!
This is a better presentation. First it is based on something in the video, not knee-jerk reaction to a name, like Dungheap.If thinly veiled questions like the ones listed below are present throughout the tape, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out which way Stossel "leans".
"Minimum Wage" Ideas for Further Discussion in Classroom:
1. Summarize what John is saying about minimum wage. Do you believe minimum wage could hurt some potential workers? Why or why not?
2. If you believe what John says about the minimum wage, would that mean that any minimum wage—no matter what the level—would hurt at least some potential workers?
3. Do you think there should be a minimum wage? If so, at what level? Why?
4. What do you think motivates politicians to pass minimum wage laws? What motivates unions to lobby for them?
5. Do you think you've ever been a victim of minimum wage laws? Have you ever benefited from minimum wage rules?
If you had equal objection to showing the Goreacle's flick I may be on your side. As it stands, IF (5 questions are not quite enough to make that judgment) the whole of the videos are propaganda attempts and are shown in any other way than as propaganda attempts then I do agree with you, even though you wouldn't object to or even stand with somebody for your own propaganda machine being presented in the school.He just doesn't have a background in education. All it looks like is some cheap libertarian propaganda attempt.
Libertarian arguments sound compelling until you actually look at them for more than five seconds, so if all he's going to do is pound kids with the libertarian arguments and present no other side (which would automatically intellectually destroy the libertarian side in pretty much all instances) he should be banned from American classrooms.
This is a better presentation. First it is based on something in the video, not knee-jerk reaction to a name, like Dungheap.
You shouldn't take what I say to somebody else so personally. However, I will note you reacted before you had any information, somebody else had to post the questions in the video before you could come up with something even minutely informed...
\Until you had something that somebody more informed presented you too were just mentally masturbating to a name, not actually doing mental gymnastics with information.
Now I'm not saying this directly in response to the questions Stossel laid out here because someone could questions in front of me that I'd have the same response to. But in theory isn't this idea what we want taught in schools, challenging kids to think? For example politicians who want to reduce drug sentences etc. often get smoked (no pun intended) politically for being labeled soft on crime but does that mean we wouldn't want kids to have a discussion on ways to deal with drugs other than just throwing people in jail?
If you had equal objection to showing the Goreacle's flick I may be on your side. .
How did you use them in the classroom?
Now now now.
Anyone familiar with Stossel's name know which side of the Political fence he comes down on.
What content? The five whole questions?Yeah, I was way off base in thinking that Stossel in the Classroom DVDs would feature the same glibertarian horseshit that is John Stossel's body of work when, upon looking into the content, it appears that the Stossel in the Classroom DVDs are the same glibertarian horseshit that Stossel has been peddling for decades.
As I said, when you know a person's body of work it is not always necessary to assess everything they publish with a fresh eyes and a clean slate. My reaction to Stossel in the classroom was based on my knowledge of Stossel's career and my reaction was correct.
Damocles, if you want to approach everything new a person writes without taking into account your knowledge of what that person has written before, feel free to do so. But it's silly to require the same of everyone else.
Says the resident of the local asylum...Damo has gone nuts since the election of Obama.
Extreme libertarian.
Totally laughable.
Al Gore is a former Vice President of the United States who presented scientific information that is overwhelmingly accepted by the climate science community. It's not fringe, it's not even controversial in any significant way, in the climate science community.
John Stossel is a virtually unknown (outside of message boards) libertarian extremist whack job, who's ideas are so unpopular and discredited, that if they were ever adopted and run on as the GOP national platform, would result in the utter destruction of the republican party.
You're trying to draw comparisons that aren't even close to being in the same universe.