still no outrage over the murder of kelly thomas

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SmarterthanYou

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The below video shows very graphic and disturbing video of 6 Fullerton california police officers pummeling to death a young man suffering from schizophrenia.

Days after the beating, one of these animals called into a radio show to boast about it. The night of the beating, one of them demanded treatment for a scrape on his elbow as Thomas lay dying a few feet away.

Public officials closed ranks. A “special assistant to the DA” was brought on to defend the officers. The police department shut down the flow of information, then released misinformation (though another public official later found no fault with that). The city then tried to pay Thomas’ father $900,000 to go away.

Were it not for a citizen with a cell phone camera, the agitation of a local blog, and the determination of Thomas’ father, himself a former cop, we may never have known about Kelly Thomas. And these animals could well still be on the police force in Fullerton.


 
Darla said:
Where are you that you aren't seeing or hearing any outrage? This has been all over the liberal blogs. Lots of outrage there. Maybe you should stop spending so much time at www.wegotguns.com. Get out there more!
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you don't care about white guys, so why are you bothering with this?

and you'd be surprised where I get my information from. or do I need to flood your inbox with all my other 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment threads????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
The below video shows very graphic and disturbing video of 6 Fullerton california police officers pummeling to death a young man suffering from schizophrenia.

Days after the beating, one of these animals called into a radio show to boast about it. The night of the beating, one of them demanded treatment for a scrape on his elbow as Thomas lay dying a few feet away.

Public officials closed ranks. A “special assistant to the DA” was brought on to defend the officers. The police department shut down the flow of information, then released misinformation (though another public official later found no fault with that). The city then tried to pay Thomas’ father $900,000 to go away.

Were it not for a citizen with a cell phone camera, the agitation of a local blog, and the determination of Thomas’ father, himself a former cop, we may never have known about Kelly Thomas. And these animals could well still be on the police force in Fullerton.


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the way this nation treats its mentally ill is a crime
 
Yurt said:
Trial ordered for 2 California police officers in beating death of homeless man

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/california-police-beating/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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FTFA:
"This is a hard thing to file, a case of this nature against police officers, because we have tremendous law enforcement in Orange County," Rackauckas told reporters. "This kind of incident is very damaging to the community -- to everybody, the police, the community -- because it erodes that trust. It brings down the image of the entire community," the county's elected prosecutor said.
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this is the prosecutor simply saying that these two are the selected sacrificial lambs. I don't expect a jury to convict them.
 
Yurt said:
we will see
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for sure. but in the last year, i've read of one story of a cop being convicted of murder as a result of the beating death of a civilian. Spokane officer Karl Thompson for the beating and tasing death of Otto Zehm, who is now petitioning for a new trial.
 
webbway said:
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That story has been all over the radio, and news here in Los Angeles. They have had several protests demanding justice for his death.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/07/kelly_thomas_fullerton_police_1.php

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Father-of-Beaten-Man-Seeks-Death-Penalty-127071913.html

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Timeline-The-Kelly-Thomas-Case-in-Fullerton-126851443.html
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right. i've kept up with the media storm out there over this. I guess it just doesn't qualify for the national outrage that floridians should get.
 
This is one of several issues on which I am hard left. It puzzles me why most conservatives will always defend police. When Seattle police killed an unarmed Native American wood carver less than 1000 feet from my work, all the conservatives I know defended them automatically. The issue came up at a family dinner and one of my aunt's friends practically screamed at me and defended the thugs in uniform. It's insanity.

Ultimately though, conservatism worships authority. It's no mystery to me why Naziism and Fascism are described as "right-wing." This is why I'm probably better described as a left-leaning libertarian.
 
Threedee said:
This is one of several issues on which I am hard left. It puzzles me why most conservatives will always defend police. When Seattle police killed an unarmed Native American wood carver less than 1000 feet from my work, all the conservatives I know defended them automatically. The issue came up at a family dinner and one of my aunt's friends practically screamed at me and defended the thugs in uniform. It's insanity.

Ultimately though, conservatism worships authority. It's no mystery to me why Naziism and Fascism are described as "right-wing." This is why I'm probably better described as a left-leaning libertarian.
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that's something i'm totally confused on as well. the ridiculous claim that the police put their lives on the line for us is total bullshit. very few cops do that. All the others i've ever had conversations with end up with the cop saying 'I WILL go home at the end of my shift, even if you have to die'.
 
city officials in Fullerton get their first taste of justified outrage from the citizens after releasing the known security footage.


next move by law enforcement should be considered very carefully.
 
fullerton city council members recalled in response to their apathy on the kelly thomas beating.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/06/fullerton-recalls-city-council-members-o

While most have been paying attention to the events in the Wisconsin recall election, another recall election happened last night in the city of Fullerton, Calif. Fullerton residents recalled city council members, Don Bankhead, Pat McKinley and Richard Jones, sparked by the killing of Kelly Thomas by city police officers in early July 2011.

The recalled members will be replaced by Greg Sebourn, a land surveyor, attorney Doug Chaffee and planning commissioner and blogger for the local small government blog, Friend's for Fullerton's Future, Travis Kiger.

The recall effort was largely funded by the backer of Friends for Fullerton's Future, Tony Bushala, a local businessman.

"We were fighting for justice in this community," said Tony Bushala, one of the organizers of the recall vote. "The citizens of Fullerton, they went to the polls and they voted. And they voted with their hearts and their consciences. They knew something terribly wrong happened in Fullerton."
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Cicinelli defense lawyer Michael Schwartz admitted cops used force on Thomas but, despite him falling silent during the attack and lying in a huge pool of his own blood, he was medically fine when EMT's put him into an ambulance.

Schwartz also argued that gruesome hospital photographs of Thomas have given the false impression that police were brutal when, he insists, most of the external damage was simply superficial bruising.

Schwartz is asking jurors to declare that Thomas killed himself and police, his close companions during his final minutes alive, neither contributed to the death nor committed any criminal acts.

His line--delivered without cracking a smile--was that an "overexerting," 37-year-old Thomas beat himself to death by struggling with concerned, compassionate officers.

"His heart couldn't take it," said Schwartz.

He later added, "A tragedy? Yes. A crime? No. Sometimes tragedies happen in this world."

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Before he finished, Schwartz accused District Attorney Tony Rackauckas of personally manufacturing a case by tampering with key witnesses to alter their stories to fit his prosecution theory of police brutality.

(Both Barnett and Schwartz specialize in representing law enforcement officers accused of committing crimes and are known in Southern California courthouses for their intensity, creativity and steep legal rates.)




http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/12/kelly_thomas_fullerton_trial_1.php
 
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