Somebody name one

[Arks&sparka]

It's ironic how so many Fascists don't even know what Fascism is.

It's amazing to me that people think that fascism is some sort of clandestine term. It's a pretty well studied part of history.

But the problem is you are lying and I don't believe you and you really really want your lie to be truth.

 

[Arks&sparka]

He doesn't know.

I knew exactly what I was saying I was pointing out the attempt to remove him because you disagree and you made up fake charges is to enforce your will on the people.

the attempts to impeach was based on a fake event that they knew was fake.

 

[Into the Night]

Take it up with him

He denies logic and just spends his life trolling and insulting. A fallacy is just an error in logic, similar to a math error. Logic is a closed system, like mathematics.

 

[Into the Night]

I already did that, but you didn't care. You probably didn't even click the link.

Lie. You listed nothing.

 

[Into the Night]

Well that is a good way to avoid facts.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU avoiding listing anything here. He is not trying to list anything nor making the argument the Proud Boys have committed any crimes. YOU are. Contextomy fallacy. Learn what 'fact' means.

 

[Into the Night]

Also it's the Democrats that are fascist. They were the ones that tried to undo the democracy with their impeachment hoax. They tried to smear Bret kavanaugh with lies to usurp government process. They are the ones talking about stacking the Supreme Court so they can assume a dictatorship through judicial Fiat.

So if you're lining up with actual fascists and you're calling other people fascists you're just trying to take the microscope off of you.

It's accusing other people of your crimes to draw suspicion away from you.

Bingo. This is called an inversion fallacy. It is projecting their own problems upon someone else.

 

[Into the Night]

So you're saying that a system that allows people to remove the president is Fascist?

A coup to overthrow the Constitution of the United States and replace it with fascism by oligarchy is your goal. You are *still* not accepting the 2016 election. Trump has committed no crime. Strawman fallacy. Presupposition. TDS.

Do you even know what Fascism is?

I daresay he probably does. It is YOU that is trying to change the meaning of the word. Inversion fallacy. Semantics fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

It's ironic how so many Fascists don't even know what Fascism is.

You included.

 

[Into the Night]

What is Fascism?

This has already been explained to you. RQAA. Fascism is government control of businesses and property, without actual ownership of that business or property. It is theft of wealth. It is socialism. It can only be implemented by dictatorships or oligarchies. It is Marxism. It is on the road to communism.

 

[Into the Night]

The only thing Hitler was to the right of, was Marxism. Hitler created a massive welfare state, forced mandatory national health insurance, embraced Identify Politics and Cancel Culture, abolished religious freedom and free speech, and outlawed all other political parties.

These are all socialist leftwing platforms that we see in the U.S. democrat party, today.

Hitler and the NAZI party is Marxism. So was Mussolini's Italy. So was Stalin's Russia. Marxism argues for fascism and communism. They are both socialism. Hitler was not right of Marxism. You are correct about the Democrats.

 

[AProudLefty]

Can Into the Night post a few posts without invoking fallacies?

Quite frankly it's annoying and clutters up good discussions.

 

[Into the Night]

One of the many things wrong with the right wing partisan is their lack of comprehension. They go to a site looking for hate towards their target, and then ignore the reality of what they see. For instance, the low IQ T.A.Gardner tries to make it appear as if his citing of the torchantifa.org/chapters/ is a list of antifa chapters. It is not. It is a membership drive for the torch. The original version of The Torch was built as an anti-racist/anti-fascist group in the 80"s, and was changed to the Torch in 2013.

Similarly he tries to use discoverthenetworks.org as a source describing various antifa sites. Again he is lying. While he tries to use the sites listed there as examples he ignores the reality that many of the sites listed were disbanded in the 80's, others were not even part of the American culture, and still others were formed as protests against going to Vietnam, or for racial justice. None that I could find had anything to do with the antifa movement of today.

But that brings us to the mental illness right wingers suffer from. Like their gawd trump they lack the intellect to perceive the real world. As an example, "America First" is a mainstay of trumps campaign, and that of his followers. Yet the term has its origin in that of another racist/fascist supporter, named Charles Lindbergh ( https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/america-first-for-charles-lindbergh-and-donald-trump ). So, why all the hate for the antifa movement? Why not for terrorist neo-Nazi groups such as the Atomwaffen Division and the Rise Above Movement? First you have to understand what Antifa is, and isn't:

https://warontherocks.com/2020/06/what-antifa-is-what-it-isnt-and-why-it-matters/

"So, why are the Trump administration and the attorney general so obsessed with Antifa?

The Antifa label has become a political cudgel wielded by politicians who are more intent on demonizing political opponents and framing terrorism as a partisan issue than on countering the most dangerous groups operating on U.S. soil. After all, Atomwaffen has murdered several American citizens and had its members arrested with bomb-making materials, while Antifa has smashed store windows and engaged in street brawls."

Antifa is an organization. A terrorist organization. It is funded and supported by the Democrat party.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

One white supremacist group that isn’t simply comprised of white extremists of varying stripes.

I’ll wait here.

The TRUMP WHITE HOUSE STAFF!

 

[Into the Night]

I guess that'll really depend on who you ask.

I'd say forcible suppression of opposition is a characteristic of fascism which we see from left almost exclusively.

I would say regimentation of economy and society is also a characteristic of it this is also something we see almost strictly from the left.

I would say dictatorial commands from authority is authoritarian which is a component of fascism and this is something we see almost strictly from the left.

All aspects of the effects of fascism. It is government control of property and businesses, without actually owning such property or business. All of these characteristics you list occur in both fascism and communism. They are both socialism.

 

[Old Trapper]

Antifa is an organization. A terrorist organization. It is funded and supported by the Democrat party.

Neither lie of which you can support with any truth, or fact, just your hopeless illusions.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Bingo. This is called an inversion fallacy. It is projecting their own problems upon someone else.

I think it's worse than just making a logical faux pas they're actually trying to subvert reality and replace it with their own

 

[Arks&sparka]

All aspects of the effects of fascism. It is government control of property and businesses, without actually owning such property or business. All of these characteristics you list occur in both fascism and communism. They are both socialism.

You have been studying fascism over the last couple of weeks and it's funny that Wikipedia opinion is that it's far right it seems to exclusively come out of the far left.

 

[AProudLefty]

You have been studying fascism over the last couple of weeks and it's funny that Wikipedia opinion is that it's far right it seems to exclusively come out of the far left.

Historians since the rise of Nazi Germany have been calling it far right. Granted it's mostly the European version of far right.

 

[StoneByStone]

I'd say forcible suppression of opposition is a characteristic of fascism which we see from left almost exclusively.

Examples?

I would say regimentation of economy and society is also a characteristic of it this is also something we see almost strictly from the left.

Examples?

I would say dictatorial commands from authority is authoritarian which is a component of fascism and this is something we see almost strictly from the left.

Examples?

Is this what happens when you get your politics from Facebook memes?

 

[Arks&sparka]

Historians since the rise of Nazi Germany have been calling it far right. Granted it's mostly the European version of far right.

Nazi Germany was left not right. You were talking about revisionists not historians.