Somebody name one

[AProudLefty]

I was trying to talk to somebody who held the different views than I did that's how I test out my views see if they're rational. I'll never find someone who challenges My views if I don't talk to people I disagree with.

Your challenge was mild if anything because you were so focused on defending. This seems to be something people do and they're not so sure about what they believe.

This is an exercise to seek out someone who could rationalize if you point different than mine.

But you've already declared victory so I don't know why this matters to you.

Oh yes I understand. I do the same thing myself here and elsewhere. I just like to have some evidence for others' claims/views.

Okay no victory here. Just discussion.

BTW, I didn't defend anything.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Oh yes I understand. I do the same thing myself here and elsewhere. I just like to have some evidence for others' claims/views.

Fair enough I don't do the support claims thing cuz I'm not interested in defeating anybody. I'm not interested in persuading anybody. Oftentimes that's the rather wasteful endeavor because most people cannot be persuaded. It's like playing Tic-Tac-Toe the only way you to win is not to play.

Okay no victory here. Just discussion.

fair enough. Would you think that who call out black lives matter as they are demonstrating or protesting to be part of that movement or only people who are on an official organization's roster?

BTW, I didn't defend anything.

fair enough your argumentative stance seemed defensive to me because anything I stated you asked for evidence. That's not what I'm interested in doing here.

 

[Into the Night]

For anyone who might be interested.

...deleted Holy Link to Wikipedia...

Government in the U.S. also has remnants of direct democracy in its small towns where property owners vote at meetings on certain local matters.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed. You cannot use this reference or cut and paste from them. I do not accept this reference.
There is no such thing as a 'representative democracy'. Democracies have no representatives.

 

[Into the Night]

So they use violence against anyone who votes Democrat.

Hmmm.... now what is it called when people use violence to achieve a political goal?

What is it called when violence is used to establish law and order (a political goal)?

 

[Into the Night]

The movement is not organized it's borderline schizophrenic the part of it wants to burn down everything one part wants to commit other crimes like blocking up roads. Another part of it wants to have legitimate protests.

It is organized. It's goal is to defund and disband police and other authority. Whether by violence or by peaceful protest, the goal is the same.

 

[Into the Night]

must not have really been a defeat then.
there's no mission statement some arbitrary group has no control over the movement.

for you to pretend that this is what black lives matter is is dishonest.

Having a hard time seeing the defeat probably cuz it's not there

This is why I ignore AProudLefty. He just trolls, denies his own arguments, wanders off topic a lot, and assumes a victory fallacy a lot.

 

[martin]

Wikipedia summarily dismissed. You cannot use this reference or cut and paste from them. I do not accept this reference.
There is no such thing as a 'representative democracy'. Democracies have no representatives.

Determined ignorance, the backbone of the Right, but one can try:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/representative-democracy

 

[Wolverine]

So they use violence against anyone who votes Democrat.

Hmmm.... now what is it called when people use violence to achieve a political goal?

As opposed to BLM, Antifa? No but they will stand against those who hate this country, such as those two domestic terrorist groups!

 

[Cypress]

Bullshit. The only thing Hitler was to the right of, was Marxism. Hitler created a massive welfare state, forced mandatory national health insurance, embraced Identify Politics and Cancel Culture, abolished religious freedom and free speech, and outlawed all other political parties.

These are all socialist leftwing platforms that we see in the U.S. democrat party, today.

Breitbart is not a valid source of historical information and knowlege.

You appear to be allergic to college education. You obviously have never come within 5 kilometers of a university level modern European history class.

 

[Earl]

This is why I ignore AProudLefty. He just trolls, denies his own arguments, wanders off topic a lot, and assumes a victory fallacy a lot.

Indeed.

He's a proven sock and liar.

 

[Arks&sparka]

It is organized. It's goal is to defund and disband police and other authority. Whether by violence or by peaceful protest, the goal is the same.

I think the money side of it is organized but I think for the most part it's like having a tiger by the tail.

 

[CFM]

This is why I ignore AProudLefty. He just trolls, denies his own arguments, wanders off topic a lot, and assumes a victory fallacy a lot.

His socks do the same thing then deny they're his socks.

 

[Arks&sparka]

This is why I ignore AProudLefty. He just trolls, denies his own arguments, wanders off topic a lot, and assumes a victory fallacy a lot.

Yeah it seems like he was meandering off of topic. I think he was doing this to avoid the topic.

 

[CFM]

Breitbart is not a valid source of historical information and knowlege.

You appear to be allergic to college education. You obviously have never come within 5 kilometers of a university level modern European history class.

You not liking the truth doesn't invalidate it, boy.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'm the topic and I'm the one going off the topic?

 

[AProudLefty]

This is why I ignore AProudLefty. He just trolls, denies his own arguments, wanders off topic a lot, and assumes a victory fallacy a lot.

No that is not why. I have proven you wrong over and over again. That is why you are ignoring me.

 

[AProudLefty]

Fair enough I don't do the support claims thing cuz I'm not interested in defeating anybody. I'm not interested in persuading anybody. Oftentimes that's the rather wasteful endeavor because most people cannot be persuaded.

If I don't want to be persuaded or cannot be, then why am I asking for evidence?

fair enough. Would you think that who call out black lives matter as they are demonstrating or protesting to be part of that movement or only people who are on an official organization's roster?
fair enough your argumentative stance seemed defensive to me because anything I stated you asked for evidence. That's not what I'm interested in doing here.

How is asking for evidence being defensive? You were trying to argue your position to me without evidence. That's part of the problem. That is not how debate works. This is a debate site.

 

[CharacterAssassin]

I guess?

Can you name an actual white supremacist group—besides the Klan?

Aryan Nation, you pathetic cunt.

 

[AProudLefty]

Yeah it seems like he was meandering off of topic. I think he was doing this to avoid the topic.

How so? Explain.

 

[Arks&sparka]

If I don't want to be persuaded or cannot be, then why am I asking for evidence?

I don't think you grasped my message. I'm not interested in persuading you.

How is asking for evidence being defensive?

It's defensive Because when it isn't presented the opponent can cry out "ah ha, I got you!"just like you did. And they can go on to declare victory again just like you did. That is defensive of your views.

You were trying to argue your position to me without evidence.

Again, I'm not interested in persuading you. That's not why I'm here.

That's part of the problem.

I'm sorry you are having this problem

That is not how debate works.

Debate for the purposes of winning. Again I'm not interested in that.

This is a debate site.

I am debating I'm just not debating to defeat you. I explained my purpose.