Solar energy is the future

ROFLMAO... oil companies were suppressing alt energy? That makes no sense, alt energies were not economically viable, even with massive government subsidies. With silicon prices plummeting the cost of solar is becoming more competitive, but even so solar is a replacement for nat gas and coal electricity producers.... not oil.
 
Solar is fine as a supplemental source of energy, but it cannot produce enough energy to satisfy our energy needs. We'd probably have to cover the state of Arizona with solar panels to produce even half of our current output level.
 
Solar is fine as a supplemental source of energy, but it cannot produce enough energy to satisfy our energy needs. We'd probably have to cover the state of Arizona with solar panels to produce even half of our current output level.

That's true for now. Technology advancement is exponential, though; in our lifetimes, we'll see not just solar, but other renewables displace fossil fuels as the primary sources of energy.
 
ROFLMAO... oil companies were suppressing alt energy? That makes no sense, alt energies were not economically viable, even with massive government subsidies. With silicon prices plummeting the cost of solar is becoming more competitive, but even so solar is a replacement for nat gas and coal electricity producers.... not oil.

Chevron tried to suppress the electric cell battery(watch the movie who killed the electric car) and Automatic Power tried to suppress the solar cell because it would interfere in their profits. That's capitalism for you. Anti-real progress. Just pro profits.

Automatic Power bought the designs and rights and tried to suppress it(Basically did nothing with it), because it would destroy their battery profits. Exxon then went to TIDELAND which introduced the solar powered buoy and markers.

Though most of Tideland's money was made by selling the solar cells to offshore oil platforms(basically the only people benefiting were the oil companies)!

Now the Chinese are taking over the market and its applications are growing. They can finally make real money off of it, making it in China for dirt cheap and selling it abroad for an affordable price.

I don't mind China having that market(so it is affordable to all people) but they have to give some stuff in return(Buy our exports)......

Here is more on the PVC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_voltaic_cell

Is this Exxon's baby? They have been keeping it under wraps for awhile!

Here I found this interesting. See how capitalism suppresses info to retain profits??

Navigation market

SPC approached companies making navigational buoys as a natural market for their products, but found a curious situation. The primary company in the business was Automatic Power, a battery manufacturer. Realizing that solar cells might eat into their battery profits, Automatic purchased the rights to earlier solar cell designs and suppressed them.[citation needed] Seeing there was no interest at Automatic, SPC turned to Tideland Signal, another battery company formed by ex-Automatic managers. Tideland introduced a solar-powered buoy and was soon ruining Automatic's business.

The timing could not be better; the rapid increase in the number of offshore oil platforms and loading facilities produced an enormous market among the oil companies. As Tideland's fortunes improved, Automatic started looking for their own supply of solar panels. They found Bill Yerks of Solar Power International (SPI) in California, who was looking for a market. SPI was soon bought out by one of its largest customers, the ARCO oil giant, forming ARCO Solar. ARCO Solar's factory in Camarillo, California was the first dedicated to building solar panels, and has been in continual operation from its purchase by ARCO in 1977 to this day.

This market, combined with the 1973 oil crisis, led to a curious situation. Oil companies were now cash-flush due to their huge profits during the crisis, but were also acutely aware that their future success would depend on some other form of power. Over the next few years, major oil companies started a number of solar firms, and were for decades the largest producers of solar panels. Exxon, ARCO, Shell, Amoco (later purchased by BP) and Mobil all had major solar divisions during the 1970s and 80s. Technology companies also had some investment, including General Electric, Motorola, IBM, Tyco and RCA.[9]


This is going to revolutionize solar energy! They even have a paint of this stuff. You paint your roof or car with it and your paint stores energy!

Also there are programs you can sign up to in Canada where if you go with this program and your producing more energy then you need, you can feed it back into the grid and make money!!!!That would heavily decentralize the energy market!!!!
 
That's true for now. Technology advancement is exponential, though; in our lifetimes, we'll see not just solar, but other renewables displace fossil fuels as the primary sources of energy.

We are getting close to that next leap forward. I would guess that we are in a similar position to where PC's were in the late 1980's... then along came Michael Dell/AMAT/INTEL etc.... and BAM...
 
Solar is fine as a supplemental source of energy, but it cannot produce enough energy to satisfy our energy needs. We'd probably have to cover the state of Arizona with solar panels to produce even half of our current output level.

That may be true on the industrial level, but that hasn't stopped companies from investing in Solar technology. I believe nuclear technology will cater to the commercial use, but for residential? Solar all the way!!!!!
 
ROFLMAO... oil companies were suppressing alt energy? That makes no sense, alt energies were not economically viable, even with massive government subsidies. With silicon prices plummeting the cost of solar is becoming more competitive, but even so solar is a replacement for nat gas and coal electricity producers.... not oil.

That new plant called Gemasola doesn't use PV cells. It works by concentrating solar energy and transferring that to molten salts which produce steam to drive turbines. It even works at night as the molten salts can retain the heat for up to fifteen hours.

http://www.solarpanelsuk.org/solar-...-can-work-at-night-spanish-power-plant-shows/
 
We are getting close to that next leap forward. I would guess that we are in a similar position to where PC's were in the late 1980's... then along came Michael Dell/AMAT/INTEL etc.... and BAM...

Yep - can't wait. It's such a prime area for an economic boom.
 
Solar is fine as a supplemental source of energy, but it cannot produce enough energy to satisfy our energy needs. We'd probably have to cover the state of Arizona with solar panels to produce even half of our current output level.

Current solar panels are dependent on Indium which could become scarce in future, fortunately it look like carbon nanotubes may come to the rescue.

http://www.solarpanelsuk.org/resear...ry-‘could-make-solar-panels-more-affordable’/
 
We are getting close to that next leap forward. I would guess that we are in a similar position to where PC's were in the late 1980's... then along came Michael Dell/AMAT/INTEL etc.... and BAM...

Plans are going forward for a huge wind farm on Fire Island which is out in Cook Inlet, here in Anchorage.
 
Current solar panels are dependent on Indium which could become scarce in future, fortunately it look like carbon nanotubes may come to the rescue.

http://www.solarpanelsuk.org/resear...ry-‘could-make-solar-panels-more-affordable’/

Maybe that is why China is cutting supply to drive prices up!

Again capitalism at its worst! Control the supply, you can control the demand and thus the profits......

http://news.yahoo.com/china-rare-ea...JsZHxtaWRkbGUgZWFzdARwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3
 
OHHHHH now I see why they cut supply! They received some flack from their American counterparts!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ir-subsidies/2011/10/19/gIQAvHniyL_story.html

Goldman sachs has alot invested in Chinese run Solar tech the largest producer of solar panels. No wonder Solyndra could not compete.........

This will put a damper on solar power. Sounds like the oil companies who control the solar power market in America do not like their toes to be stepped on.....
 
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