SOCIALISM TO THE RESCUE JUST IN TIME

Sorry to inform all the right wingnut jokers on this thread that there are well functioning countries that incorporate socialism in their gov't....and they do not aspire to be like the despots and dictators throughout history that claimed to be socialist. Please look it up, because I tire of doing homework for the willfully ignorant.
 
Sorry to inform all the right wingnut jokers on this thread that there are well functioning countries that incorporate socialism in their gov't....and they do not aspire to be like the despots and dictators throughout history that claimed to be socialist. Please look it up, because I tire of doing homework for the willfully ignorant.

Norse Democracy is hardly if at all really Socialist.

But, hybrid Socialism has achieved great results.

China in the modern era.
Japan after WW2.
The Spanish Miracle.
National Socialist Germany.

Each of these hybrid Socialist regimes beat all USA presidents of the past 100+ years in economic growth.
 
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Sorry to inform all the right wingnut jokers on this thread that there are well functioning countries that incorporate socialism in their gov't....and they do not aspire to be like the despots and dictators throughout history that claimed to be socialist. Please look it up, because I tire of doing homework for the willfully ignorant.


Norse Democracy is hardly if at all really Socialist.

But, hybrid Socialism has achieved great results.

China in the modern era.
Japan after WW2.
The Spanish Miracle.
National Socialist Germany.

Each of these hybrid Socialist regimes beat all USA presidents of the past 100+ years in economic growth.

Excellent points! Thanks!

But a few clarifications: Between 1946 and 1952, Washington invested $2.2 billion — or $18 billion in real 21st-century dollars adjusted for inflation — in Japan’s reconstruction effort. I don't know if you could call it a "socialist" country today, but it does have socialist traits.

China is and has been a communist country...a bit different from "socialist' countries. More to the point, China's communism under Mao was more of a dictatorship...after him more of their version of communism.
 
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There will soon be more than 500,000 deaths from the coronovirus in the United States.
Random number. Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data.
We not only lead the world in deaths from the virus, it has also become the leading cause of death in this county ..
Nope. Heart disease is BY FAR.
all while we claim to have the best healthcare system in the world.
We do.
The problem isn’t the healthcare system, the problem is the lack of attention to the American people by the previous cabal.
Denial of history.
Joe Biden is desperate to change all that
Change what?
and he will use socialism to do it.
Socialism doesn't cure any disease, or stop covid19.
Thus today defeating the virus is the number one mission in America
Biden does not command the virus.
and Biden will turn much of America’s resources inward toward the American people.
By taking away their jobs? By imposing burdensome regulations in the name of the Church of Global Warming or the Church of Green? By sniffing women?
Science will be employed to help solve the problems
Biden denies science. So do you. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all. You deny science. So does Joe Biden.
and resources will be directed to helping the American people and it’s communities.
Vague chanting. Meaningless.
That’s called socialism,
No, that's called vague chanting. Socialism is theft of wealth. Examples:
Fascism is theft of wealth via government interference with markets.
Communism is theft of wealth via government OWNERSHIP of markets.
Slavery is theft of wealth through 'ownership' of people.

Fuck you.

democratic socialism
Socialism is not a type of government, any government, or any nation. The United States is not a democracy and never was. Until 2021 it was a federated republic. It is not being converted into an oligarchy by Democrats to implement fascism.
to be precise and it could not come soon enough.
Be careful what you embrace. You are not the 'elite'. You will pay along with everyone else.
Don’t like socialism or even calling it socialism? Fine, call it a chicken sandwich if it makes you feel better, but socialism is exactly what it is.
Lie. Socialism is theft of wealth. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
Sorry to inform all the right wingnut jokers on this thread that there are well functioning countries that incorporate socialism in their gov't....and they do not aspire to be like the despots and dictators throughout history that claimed to be socialist. Please look it up, because I tire of doing homework for the willfully ignorant.

Who?
 
What's your definition of Fascism!!??

Since his definition is basically a meaningless buzzword used as an insult, I'll offer this one, and a few others:

Socialism is theft of wealth.
Fascism is socialism via government interference of markets. Examples exist in Nazi Germany, Italy, the United States, Japan, several European nations, etc.
Communism is socialism via government ownership of markets. Examples exist in the USSR, China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
Slavery is socialism via 'ownership' of people. Examples exist in the United States, Africa, Egypt, the Empire of Rome, etc.

Capitalism is the creation of wealth. No government needed. It's simply people creating wealth by themselves, for themselves and each other, and building whole societies and even huge cities out of nothing but weeds, raw materials, and initiative and drive. Examples exist in the American West, the voyage of the pilgrims and their establishing colonies in the Americas, some European nations, such as Germany's development of the chemical industry, or the United States, with the development of the automotive, firearm, and computer industries. It is the great equalizer. Anyone can play.

What say you?
 
You dodged bringing up a source of where Hitler praised Bismarck!?

You seem goofy.

If I recall you've bashed Poles as anti Semitic before.?

Even though Polish Americans voted Trump.

But, you obviously appease Democrat groups like Blacks & Jews.

What a clueless yokel.

Quote where I said Hitler praised Bismarck. :dunno:

Quote where I said Poles were anti semitic, liar.

How many years did you share a prison cell with Charles Manson? Because you sure do love that little artsy fartsy hipster, white lib con artist's 'faux intellectual' narratives. :palm:
 
Quote where I said Hitler praised Bismarck. :dunno:

Quote where I said Poles were anti semitic, liar.

How many years did you share a prison cell with Charles Manson? Because you sure do love that little artsy fartsy hipster, white lib con artist's 'faux intellectual' narratives. :palm:

I am close.

You supported anti Polish legislation to pay off Jews.On a thread you bashed Catholics on.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...m-voters-found-religion&p=3604934#post3604934

Lets' be clear ...

It is a law passed unanimously by the Senate, and unanimously by voice vote in the House. A law that has no power to force any restoration of property and applies to 47 countries that have already agreed to study the issue. A law that simply asks the studies be reported to congress
 
Hello Blackascoal,

There will soon be more than 500,000 deaths from the coronovirus in the United States. We not only lead the world in deaths from the virus, it has also become the leading cause of death in this county .. all while we claim to have the best healthcare system in the world. The problem isn’t the healthcare system, the problem is the lack of attention to the American people by the previous cabal.

Joe Biden is desperate to change all that and he will use socialism to do it. Thus today defeating the virus is the number one mission in America and Biden will turn much of America’s resources inward toward the American people. Science will be employed to help solve the problems and resources will be directed to helping the American people and it’s communities. That’s called socialism, democratic socialism to be precise and it could not come soon enough.

Don’t like socialism or even calling it socialism? Fine, call it a chicken sandwich if it makes you feel better, but socialism is exactly what it is.

I used to buy in to the conservative myth that socialism is a very bad thing, like communist USSR, or something. (Should have known better...)

I would try to argue that we were not really socialist. (That didn't work out very well.)

Bernie Sanders took the pox off the S-word.

He made it OK to embrace socialism.

Bernie made it OK to say 'socialism.'

Bernie made it OK to learn more about socialism. Like the fact that it is being used all over the world and it is not destroying capitalism at all.

Bernie made it OK to realize we already have socialism, and we've had it for a long time. He made it OK to understand that we can have socialism and capitalism together, that no choice need be made between the two for how we are going to run our country. We can have socialism for some things and use capitalism for the rest.

Now I have no problem with socialism. You just have to understand it. The word is not going to bite you. It is OK to have socialism. It can be a good thing.

What is socialism? It is society doing things on a bulk discount basis for the people in that society. That's all it is. We, The People, are getting the volume discount as a very large group placing a high volume order.

If we use socialism for our health care, we get the lowest pricing.

Everybody in America needs health care. It's cheaper in a large group. Make America one group. Boom. We get the lowest price.
 
Random number. Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data.

Nope. Heart disease is BY FAR.

We do.

Denial of history.

Change what?

Socialism doesn't cure any disease, or stop covid19.

Biden does not command the virus.

By taking away their jobs? By imposing burdensome regulations in the name of the Church of Global Warming or the Church of Green? By sniffing women?

Biden denies science. So do you. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all. You deny science. So does Joe Biden.

Vague chanting. Meaningless.

No, that's called vague chanting. Socialism is theft of wealth. Examples:
Fascism is theft of wealth via government interference with markets.
Communism is theft of wealth via government OWNERSHIP of markets.
Slavery is theft of wealth through 'ownership' of people.

Fuck you.


Socialism is not a type of government, any government, or any nation. The United States is not a democracy and never was. Until 2021 it was a federated republic. It is not being converted into an oligarchy by Democrats to implement fascism.

Be careful what you embrace. You are not the 'elite'. You will pay along with everyone else.

Lie. Socialism is theft of wealth. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Fuck you very much.
 
Hello Blackascoal,



I used to buy in to the conservative myth that socialism is a very bad thing, like communist USSR, or something. (Should have known better...)

I would try to argue that we were not really socialist. (That didn't work out very well.)

Bernie Sanders took the pox off the S-word.

He made it OK to embrace socialism.

Bernie made it OK to say 'socialism.'

Bernie made it OK to learn more about socialism. Like the fact that it is being used all over the world and it is not destroying capitalism at all.

Bernie made it OK to realize we already have socialism, and we've had it for a long time. He made it OK to understand that we can have socialism and capitalism together, that no choice need be made between the two for how we are going to run our country. We can have socialism for some things and use capitalism for the rest.

Now I have no problem with socialism. You just have to understand it. The word is not going to bite you. It is OK to have socialism. It can be a good thing.

What is socialism? It is society doing things on a bulk discount basis for the people in that society. That's all it is. We, The People, are getting the volume discount as a very large group placing a high volume order.

If we use socialism for our health care, we get the lowest pricing.

Everybody in America needs health care. It's cheaper in a large group. Make America one group. Boom. We get the lowest price.


Well said. It’s a people first collective approach to problem solving and it keeps millions of Americans alive who otherwise could not afford to stay alive.
 
Socialism is control by working people, but all sane capitalisms use taxation to stop them dying in millions from exploitation and the incompetence of the profit-making system. The pretense of pure capitalism, thank God, is reserved for trumpist nutters.
 
Hello Blackascoal,
I used to buy in to the conservative myth that socialism is a very bad thing, like communist USSR, or something. (Should have known better...)
Theft of wealth is always a bad thing. You have never been a conservative on JPP.
I would try to argue that we were not really socialist. (That didn't work out very well.)
You are socialist. You are arguing for fascism.
Bernie Sanders took the pox off the S-word.
Nope. It's still a pox. It is theft.
He made it OK to embrace socialism.
It is not okay to embrace theft by government.
Bernie made it OK to say 'socialism.'
So did Stalin. Big deal.
Bernie made it OK to learn more about socialism.
Socialism is theft by government. There. You have learned about socialism.
Like the fact that it is being used all over the world and it is not destroying capitalism at all.
It can't. It does, however, bring misery just the same. It is theft.
Bernie made it OK to realize we already have socialism, and we've had it for a long time.
We've had it for thousands of years in this world. Every time, it has brought misery.
He made it OK to understand that we can have socialism and capitalism together,
Socialism cannot exist without capitalism, which is creation of wealth. Socialism, being theft of wealth must have someone to steal from.
that no choice need be made between the two
There is always a choice.
for how we are going to run our country.
Neither socialism nor capitalism are nations or countries.
We can have socialism for some things and use capitalism for the rest.
Theft is theft. There is no reason to support government theft.
Now I have no problem with socialism.
We know.
You just have to understand it.
Socialism is government theft of wealth. Capitalism is creation of wealth. Socialism comes in three major forms: communism, fascism, and slavery. Socialism can only be implemented by force, using dictatorships or oligarchies. It is theft. It requires capitalism to create the wealth that socialism steals from.
The word is not going to bite you.
Theft is theft, dude.
It is OK to have socialism. It can be a good thing.
Theft is never a good thing.
What is socialism? It is society doing things on a bulk discount basis for the people in that society. That's all it is.
Not a discount. It is theft.
We, The People, are getting the volume discount as a very large group placing a high volume order.
Not a discount. It is theft.
If we use socialism for our health care, we get the lowest pricing.
Insurance is not socialism. Bulk pricing is not socialism.
Everybody in America needs health care. It's cheaper in a large group. Make America one group. Boom. We get the lowest price.
Government run health insurance and government run health care is MORE expensive (even if it's 'free'). The government decides how and when you get healthcare, if you get it at all. High taxes pay for that healthcare. The providers are government workers, that really don't give a damn about you. See the disaster in nearby Canadian 'healthcare'. People not only have to pay for THAT with high taxes, they have to get privately provided healthcare on their own out of their own pocket to get it at all in many cases.
 
Bottom line: conservative/right wingnut wonks have NO problem with the built in socialism this country has for corporations....but wail like stuck pigs when the working schmoes who make the corporations a reality want a similar deal. Amazing!
 
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