Social Security, Medicare are "going to be gone," Donald Trump warns

[Maze]

Social Security, Medicare are "going to be gone," Donald Trump warns

Trump made the comments in response to criticism from a Democrat amid the government shutdown.

www.newsweek.com

LOL Yep burn it all down Donald. Good job!

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

Why It Matters​

A point of contention leading to the government shutdown is the Democrats' refusal to accept a funding bill that would cut health care provisions, which many Republicans argue fund medical care for illegal aliens.

Social Security and Medicare represent vital support for tens of millions of Americans, especially retirees, seniors, and individuals with disabilities. As of late 2024, Social Security provided monthly benefits to about 53 million Americans—nearly 16 percent of the U.S. population. Medicare and Medicaid similarly underpin health insurance availability for seniors, low-income people, and many vulnerable groups.

Any potential reduction or administrative change to these programs has far-reaching implications for millions who rely on them for basic income or health care needs.


Federal funding gaps have become more frequent in the last 30 years, according to the Congressional Research Service, which added that the issues are often triggered by fights over budget policy and partisan spending demands.

President Donald Trump speaks at a lunch with Republican senators in the Rose Garden at the White House on October 21, 2025. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ce...Read More

Donald Trump Issues Warning on Social Security, Medicare: What We Know​

Trump warned at the press conference that if an agreement is not reached with the Democrats, programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare will be in danger. There are currently no changes to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid as the government shutdown, which just reached its third week, continues.

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson told Newsweek in a statement on Tuesday, “Democrats chose to shut down the government because they want to give free health care to illegal aliens. They can choose to reopen the government at any point by supporting the bipartisan CR they voted for just six months ago. The Trump Administration is working day and night to mitigate the pain Democrats are causing.”

Can You Work and Collect Social Security?​

Americans can work and collect Social Security retirement benefits at the same time.

However, if an individual has not reached their full retirement age, their benefits may be temporarily reduced if they earn more than the annual earnings limit established by the Social Security Administration.

In 2025, these limits and corresponding reductions will reflect cost-of-living adjustments, as set by the SSA.

Benefit reductions apply only before reaching full retirement age, after which there are no earnings limits.

Is There No Tax On Social Security?​

Social Security income may be subject to federal income tax depending on an individual’s total income and filing status.

If a beneficiary’s combined income, defined as adjusted gross income plus nontaxable interest and half of Social Security benefits, exceeds yearly set thresholds, up to 85 percent of benefits may be taxable.

The Internal Revenue Service issues updated tables annually.

What Is the Social Security Cap for 2025?​

The Social Security wage base cap determines the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security payroll tax each year. For 2025, the wage base limit published by the Social Security Administration is $176,100.

Earnings above the established limit are not subject to Social Security tax, although all covered earnings remain subject to Medicare tax.

What People Are Saying​

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon told Newsweek: “No one ever ‘wins’ a shutdown. But it is certainly a bad look for Republicans that Speaker Johnson has the House of Representatives on a taxpayer-funded monthlong vacation while Americans are about to get hit with the largest health care cost increase in more than a decade.”

GOP strategist Matt Klink told Newsweek Tuesday regarding the government shutdown: "This is a fight the GOP is comfortable having. The Democrats overplayed their hand by trying to jam through a major policy change on the back of a funding deadline.”

What Happens Next​

It's unclear if and when Democrats and Republicans will reach a compromise and end the government shutdown.

 

[cawacko]

Now this is funny.

1) Trump is using extreme rhetoric and scare tactics, claiming if what he wants isn't passed the results will be the loss of S.S. and Medicare

2) Trump was a Democrat, and this tactic is straight out of the Democratic playbook. For decades, Democrats have tried to scare voters by saying Republicans would kill Social Security and Medicare.

Now Trump is flipping the script, and look at the reaction from Democrats.

 

[Maze]

They should take it all away. The old magats relying on it will enjoy it immensely.

 

[cawacko]

They should take it all away. The old magats relying on it will enjoy it immensely.

I wish we could get past the scare tactics and actually talk about reforms that extend the life of these programs. But scare tactics win elections and real reform doesn’t, so it feels like a pipe dream.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Trump does understand that the Empire is in collapse......thus the panic.

 

[cawacko]

Trump does understand that the Empire is in collapse......thus the panic.

I was reading something the other night from 1960 when people were saying America was finished and the country was basically lost.

Was there ever a time when people didn’t think this country was going downhill or collapsing?

 

[Hawkeye10]

I was reading something the other night from 1960 when people were saying America was finished and the country was basically lost.

Was there ever a time when people didn’t think this country was going downhill or collapsing?

Irrelevant....what matters is what the reality is now.

When the decline of the country started we can argue about, but it had certainly started by 1947 when the CIA was created.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The CIA is a Wall Street Mafia operation, and we gave them the power to set up a secret army....and is now very much rogue.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Buckle Up......This is going to hurt.

 

[cawacko]

Irrelevant....what matters is what the reality is now.

When the decline of the country started we can argue about, but it had certainly started by 1947 when the CIA was created.

You’re free not to answer of course, but I do think it’s relevant. Knowing if America has been collapsing since it’s founding or since a particular point in time adds context to the person’s views.

 

[Cypress]

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone

That's what the far right-wing of this country has always wanted, they should be celebrating.

It's curious that any MAGA conservatives Republican would insinuate they are the great defenders of social welfare programs invented by liberals

 

[Diogenes]

I was reading something the other night from 1960 when people were saying America was finished and the country was basically lost.

Was there ever a time when people didn’t think this country was going downhill or collapsing?

I can't recall such a time. Can you?

 

[Diogenes]

That's what the far right-wing of this country has always wanted, they should be celebrating.

Is that so?

It's curious that any MAGA conservatives Republican would insinuate they are the great defenders of social welfare programs invented by liberals

Can't think why, eh? "Third rail of American politics" ring any bells?

 

[Diogenes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1981697687620890706

View: https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1981697687620890706

 

[Jade Dragon]

Now this is funny.

1) Trump is using extreme rhetoric and scare tactics, claiming if what he wants isn't passed the results will be the loss of S.S. and Medicare

2) Trump was a Democrat, and this tactic is straight out of the Democratic playbook. For decades, Democrats have tried to scare voters by saying Republicans would kill Social Security and Medicare.

Now Trump is flipping the script, and look at the reaction from Democrats.

Is it really scare tactics when they end up trying to do exactly what was warned about?

 

[Yakuda]

Social Security, Medicare are "going to be gone," Donald Trump warns

Trump made the comments in response to criticism from a Democrat amid the government shutdown.

www.newsweek.com

LOL Yep burn it all down Donald. Good job!

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

Why It Matters​

A point of contention leading to the government shutdown is the Democrats' refusal to accept a funding bill that would cut health care provisions, which many Republicans argue fund medical care for illegal aliens.

Social Security and Medicare represent vital support for tens of millions of Americans, especially retirees, seniors, and individuals with disabilities. As of late 2024, Social Security provided monthly benefits to about 53 million Americans—nearly 16 percent of the U.S. population. Medicare and Medicaid similarly underpin health insurance availability for seniors, low-income people, and many vulnerable groups.

Any potential reduction or administrative change to these programs has far-reaching implications for millions who rely on them for basic income or health care needs.


Federal funding gaps have become more frequent in the last 30 years, according to the Congressional Research Service, which added that the issues are often triggered by fights over budget policy and partisan spending demands.

President Donald Trump speaks at a lunch with Republican senators in the Rose Garden at the White House on October 21, 2025. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ce...Read More

Donald Trump Issues Warning on Social Security, Medicare: What We Know​

Trump warned at the press conference that if an agreement is not reached with the Democrats, programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare will be in danger. There are currently no changes to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid as the government shutdown, which just reached its third week, continues.

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson told Newsweek in a statement on Tuesday, “Democrats chose to shut down the government because they want to give free health care to illegal aliens. They can choose to reopen the government at any point by supporting the bipartisan CR they voted for just six months ago. The Trump Administration is working day and night to mitigate the pain Democrats are causing.”

Can You Work and Collect Social Security?​

Americans can work and collect Social Security retirement benefits at the same time.

However, if an individual has not reached their full retirement age, their benefits may be temporarily reduced if they earn more than the annual earnings limit established by the Social Security Administration.

In 2025, these limits and corresponding reductions will reflect cost-of-living adjustments, as set by the SSA.

Benefit reductions apply only before reaching full retirement age, after which there are no earnings limits.

Is There No Tax On Social Security?​

Social Security income may be subject to federal income tax depending on an individual’s total income and filing status.

If a beneficiary’s combined income, defined as adjusted gross income plus nontaxable interest and half of Social Security benefits, exceeds yearly set thresholds, up to 85 percent of benefits may be taxable.

The Internal Revenue Service issues updated tables annually.

What Is the Social Security Cap for 2025?​

The Social Security wage base cap determines the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security payroll tax each year. For 2025, the wage base limit published by the Social Security Administration is $176,100.

Earnings above the established limit are not subject to Social Security tax, although all covered earnings remain subject to Medicare tax.

What People Are Saying​

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon told Newsweek: “No one ever ‘wins’ a shutdown. But it is certainly a bad look for Republicans that Speaker Johnson has the House of Representatives on a taxpayer-funded monthlong vacation while Americans are about to get hit with the largest health care cost increase in more than a decade.”

GOP strategist Matt Klink told Newsweek Tuesday regarding the government shutdown: "This is a fight the GOP is comfortable having. The Democrats overplayed their hand by trying to jam through a major policy change on the back of a funding deadline.”

What Happens Next​

It's unclear if and when Democrats and Republicans will reach a compromise and end the government shutdown.

Here's all we need to know about the deformed monkeys otherwise known as democrats:

"There will be families that are going to suffer ...but it is one of the few leverage points we have." --Rep. Katherine Clark.

If Trump had said that you retarded dingbats would have shit your owners for a weak about how little he cares about the American people. Stfu

 

[cawacko]

Is it really scare tactics when they end up trying to do exactly what was warned about?

Because it isn’t true. Yes there are a few Libertarians who think Social Security and Medicare should not exist, but they have no power. No one wins national office on a platform of eliminating these programs, and no one is proposing legislation to do that.

The real discussion is about its size and sustainability. Social Security has grown far beyond its original design, and the trust fund is projected to run dry in about eight years, which would mean automatic benefit cuts of roughly 25 percent. That is the reality we should be dealing with.

Reform will require raising taxes, increasing the retirement age, and reducing benefits. No one wants that discussion, because it is easier to scare people by saying the other side wants to take everything away.

 

[Jade Dragon]

Because it isn’t true. Yes there are a few Libertarians who think Social Security and Medicare should not exist, but they have no power. No one wins national office on a platform of eliminating these programs, and no one is proposing legislation to do that.

The real discussion is about its size and sustainability. Social Security has grown far beyond its original design, and the trust fund is projected to run dry in about eight years, which would mean automatic benefit cuts of roughly 25 percent. That is the reality we should be dealing with.

Reform will require raising taxes, increasing the retirement age, and reducing benefits. No one wants that discussion, because it is easier to scare people by saying the other side wants to take everything away.

As long as I've been voting, the Republicans have been trying to gut SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. Why, because they need it to give tax cuts to the wealthiest people in America.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Social Security, Medicare are "going to be gone," Donald Trump warns

Trump made the comments in response to criticism from a Democrat amid the government shutdown.

www.newsweek.com

LOL Yep burn it all down Donald. Good job!

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

Why It Matters​

A point of contention leading to the government shutdown is the Democrats' refusal to accept a funding bill that would cut health care provisions, which many Republicans argue fund medical care for illegal aliens.

Social Security and Medicare represent vital support for tens of millions of Americans, especially retirees, seniors, and individuals with disabilities. As of late 2024, Social Security provided monthly benefits to about 53 million Americans—nearly 16 percent of the U.S. population. Medicare and Medicaid similarly underpin health insurance availability for seniors, low-income people, and many vulnerable groups.

Any potential reduction or administrative change to these programs has far-reaching implications for millions who rely on them for basic income or health care needs.


Federal funding gaps have become more frequent in the last 30 years, according to the Congressional Research Service, which added that the issues are often triggered by fights over budget policy and partisan spending demands.

President Donald Trump speaks at a lunch with Republican senators in the Rose Garden at the White House on October 21, 2025. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ce...Read More

Donald Trump Issues Warning on Social Security, Medicare: What We Know​

Trump warned at the press conference that if an agreement is not reached with the Democrats, programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare will be in danger. There are currently no changes to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid as the government shutdown, which just reached its third week, continues.

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson told Newsweek in a statement on Tuesday, “Democrats chose to shut down the government because they want to give free health care to illegal aliens. They can choose to reopen the government at any point by supporting the bipartisan CR they voted for just six months ago. The Trump Administration is working day and night to mitigate the pain Democrats are causing.”

Can You Work and Collect Social Security?​

Americans can work and collect Social Security retirement benefits at the same time.

However, if an individual has not reached their full retirement age, their benefits may be temporarily reduced if they earn more than the annual earnings limit established by the Social Security Administration.

In 2025, these limits and corresponding reductions will reflect cost-of-living adjustments, as set by the SSA.

Benefit reductions apply only before reaching full retirement age, after which there are no earnings limits.

Is There No Tax On Social Security?​

Social Security income may be subject to federal income tax depending on an individual’s total income and filing status.

If a beneficiary’s combined income, defined as adjusted gross income plus nontaxable interest and half of Social Security benefits, exceeds yearly set thresholds, up to 85 percent of benefits may be taxable.

The Internal Revenue Service issues updated tables annually.

What Is the Social Security Cap for 2025?​

The Social Security wage base cap determines the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security payroll tax each year. For 2025, the wage base limit published by the Social Security Administration is $176,100.

Earnings above the established limit are not subject to Social Security tax, although all covered earnings remain subject to Medicare tax.

What People Are Saying​

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon told Newsweek: “No one ever ‘wins’ a shutdown. But it is certainly a bad look for Republicans that Speaker Johnson has the House of Representatives on a taxpayer-funded monthlong vacation while Americans are about to get hit with the largest health care cost increase in more than a decade.”

GOP strategist Matt Klink told Newsweek Tuesday regarding the government shutdown: "This is a fight the GOP is comfortable having. The Democrats overplayed their hand by trying to jam through a major policy change on the back of a funding deadline.”

What Happens Next​

It's unclear if and when Democrats and Republicans will reach a compromise and end the government shutdown.

The civil war is coming!!!!

 

[cawacko]

As long as I've been voting, the Republicans have been trying to gut SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. Why, because they need it to give tax cuts to the wealthiest people in America.

With respect, as I have always felt like you and I have had a good rapport, you are giving me the Democratic party line. If you are open to discussing what I wrote, then I am here.