So, You Want $15 An Hour?

[Street Glider]

The establishment created boomers, a generation of people for whom the system always worked.

THese people with throw their own grandchildren under the bus to maintain their lifestyle.

Oh, no doubt.

Why on earth our pointy-headed Alzheimer's patient thinks I'm one of those is beyond me...

 

[Ross Dolan]

Because I find idiots like you rather fascinating...

You are getting your ass handed to you by this idiot.

What a cowardly cop-out.

You're such a pussy...

I'd sooner explain quantum mechanics to a badger than try to explain decency or humanity to you.

And you are getting your ass handed to you by this cowardly pussy.

I have. I've also reread yours. You know, all those posts in which you demonstrate how big a failure you are?

I am not a failure. But if I were, you would be getting your ass handed to you by this failure.

Liar...

Awww..c'mon. You can do better. If you try.

And I am most certainly not a liar.

LOLOL!!! Yeah, well, probably not...

I'd guarantee it.

I think it's funny how you try to impress with the alleged fact that you know other people who have money...

Impress???

You are the one trying to impress with money.

You claimed I hate people with money...and I am simply citing three people I love dearly with LOTS of money.

I'm a pretty smart guy. I built up two successful businesses from the ground up, and have been operating one of them for 20 years. So, try me. Tell me how I'm devoid of humanity, or there will be no reason to believe that you're anything but a sorry old Alzheimer's patient who shits his diaper and drools...

Okay...you are totally devoid of humanity.

Sure it is, liar...

I pity you, Son. I am not jealous...although you would love to think that to be so.

Poor you.

Again, you seem to think that, because I don't want to pay someone to do nothing that I'm a bad guy. Well, whatever. I know what I do. I know the charitable contributions I and my companies make. I know what I've done for employees who've hit hard times. I know that out of 158 employees not a single one of them earns minimum wage.

I do not think you are a "bad guy." I think you are a creep...with no sense of humanity.

Here's what you see as my lack of humanity: If someone asks me for help, and they really need help, I'll bend over six ways to Sunday to help them. But if someone demands something from me, simply because they think they should have it, or they give me some kind of ultimatum, they'll be gone in a New York minute. If that's what you see as my lack of humanity (and it is), well, I don't give a fuck, dipshit. You're obviously too old, senile and dense to understand that. You've likely led a life where you were handed everything; but you were still a spoiled little pissant who wasn't hugged enough as a child...

I'm sure you do a lot of bending over. But that has nothing to do with any humanity you mistakenly suppose you have.

Sorry, gramps, but you've already demonstrated that you don't want to discuss it. You've claimed I was without humanity and, when I asked you (multiple times) why you believed that, you tucked your tail between your legs instead of simply explaining your comment. So you're lying when you say you want to discuss it. You don't want to discuss it. You're afraid to. You're just a cowardly bag of wrinkled skin and a waste of oxygen...

Awww...once again...you are losing it.

You are such a pleasure to interact with, because you help yourself to be defeated.

I love ya, SG. Stick with me. My schooling you has just begun.

You're a racist...

Holy shit. Where did you pull that gem up from?

I definitely am not a racist.

Of course you are. You have no real friends to converse with...

I have an abundance of friends. You sound like someone who would want some also. Good luck with that.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Oh, no doubt.

Why on earth our pointy-headed Alzheimer's patient thinks I'm one of those is beyond me...

My guess is that most people here think that.

AssHat and I disagree on almost everything...but my guess is that he thinks that.

 

[Ross Dolan]

The establishment created boomers, a generation of people for whom the system always worked.

THese people with throw their own grandchildren under the bus to maintain their lifestyle.

I know we don't get along, AHZ, but some of your responses in this thread have given me a new and different perspective of you.

I'm sure we will continue to bust each other's balls, but your thoughts on the issues raised here are heartening.

 

[danielpalos]

How about a fixed Standard regarding unemployment compensation as a form of "minimum wage" and let markets arbitrage from there?

 

[Street Glider]

You are getting your ass handed to you by this idiot.

Hardly, grandpa...

I'd sooner explain quantum mechanics to a badger than try to explain decency or humanity to you.

The reality is you're too stupid and ignorant to do either...

And you are getting your ass handed to you by this cowardly pussy.

I'm sure you believe that...

I am not a failure. But if I were, you would be getting your ass handed to you by this failure.

Again, I'm sure you believe that...

Awww..c'mon. You can do better. If you try.

You're hardly worth the effort...

And I am most certainly not a liar.

Yes, you are...

I'd guarantee it.

The only thing you can guarantee is that you'll be putting your teeth in a glass tonight and getting a diaper change before lights out at the old-folks home...

Impress???

You are the one trying to impress with money.

The purpose of bring up money wasn't to impress. But you're too senile to understand that...

You claimed I hate people with money...and I am simply citing three people I love dearly with LOTS of money.

I doubt they've got money, and certainly not enough to buy and sell me...

Okay...you are totally devoid of humanity.

And all you do is regurgitate the same nonsensical bullshit. You can't explain how. You're too stupid to explain how...

I pity you, Son. I am not jealous...although you would love to think that to be so.

Liar...

I do not think you are a "bad guy." I think you are a creep...with no sense of humanity.

More belching up of your same old tired bullshit...

I'm sure you do a lot of bending over. But that has nothing to do with any humanity you mistakenly suppose you have.

You just can't bring yourself to accept that someone who has more than you doesn't horde what they have and actually does good things with his money...

Awww...once again...you are losing it.

Yes, once again I'm pointing out just how big of an utter failure you are...

My schooling you has just begun.

And, yeah, I'm sure you believe that...

Holy shit. Where did you pull that gem up from?

I definitely am not a racist.

Sure you are. It's obvious.

Would you like me to explain to you how I know this?

I have an abundance of friends.

Those aren't "friends", you dumbass. Those are "fellow residents"...

You sound like someone who would want some also. Good luck with that.

Oh, but I have a plethora of friends. Some have money, many do not. See, someone having money doesn't impress me, and I would never dream of gauging someone's worth by the balance of their checking account or the value of their investments. Interestingly, my friends don't seem to really care that I have money, either. The friends I have now would still be my friends if I were broke. That's how I measure success. My daughter wouldn't love me any less if I was a cook at IHOP.

That's

how I measure success.

Caring that some old geezer in a group home doesn't like me? Lemme' tell ya' Gramps, you're way the fuck down on the list of things I truly I give a shit about.

A good friend of mine owns one of the largest instrument companies in the United States. He's fabulously wealthy. When I was starting my first business he gave me a mountain of advice, as he had followed a similar path when he was starting his business decades before. He told me that having money is great, but it doesn't mean a thing if you don't do good things with it. As I have mountains of respect for the man, I took that to heart. As a result I, and my companies, are quite charitable. Either that obviously means nothing to you, or you're too big a coward to acknowledge it, simply because doing so would require you admitting you were wrong and, at 85, you probably figure you'll be dead soon and you don't want one of the last things you do to be admitting failure...

 

[Street Glider]

My guess is that most people here think that.

AssHat and I disagree on almost everything...but my guess is that he thinks that.

It's just a good thing that AssHat's not a bitter old codger like you...

 

[danielpalos]

...I want a market based equilibrium not the right-wing preference for the coercive use of force of the State to help the Richest get Richer.

 

[Walt]

I rarely go to Wal-Mart, but the last time I was there (about three weeks ago) there were two cashiers on duty, and eight self-service lanes open.

Three weeks ago would have been in January. That is not their busiest season, it is the calmest season, right after Christmas. There is no way they would go to full staffing at their calmest, no matter what salary was. This is just common sense. They open most of their registers in December, and close most of them in January.

So, You Want $15 An Hour?

I've seen locally here in northeast Florida.

Florida's minimum wage is $10, not $15. So even at $10 minimum wage, they refuse to hire people to sit around doing nothing. What salary would be low enough to have employees sitting there doing nothing? I really do not know.

 

[Walt]

Automation, if done right, is a good thing for workers. It allows workers to do more interesting jobs, shorter hours, and make better money. If workers can work 40 hour weeks, at $20 an hour with automation, that is better than working 80 hour weeks at $7.25. It is $800 a week compared to $580 a week, and working an 80 hour week is just BRUTAL.

This argument we should all work for cheaper to avoid automation improving our lives is both misguided and impossible.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Hardly, grandpa...



The reality is you're too stupid and ignorant to do either...



I'm sure you believe that...



Again, I'm sure you believe that...



You're hardly worth the effort...



Yes, you are...



The only thing you can guarantee is that you'll be putting your teeth in a glass tonight and getting a diaper change before lights out at the old-folks home...



The purpose of bring up money wasn't to impress. But you're too senile to understand that...



I doubt they've got money, and certainly not enough to buy and sell me...



And all you do is regurgitate the same nonsensical bullshit. You can't explain how. You're too stupid to explain how...



Liar...



More belching up of your same old tired bullshit...



You just can't bring yourself to accept that someone who has more than you doesn't horde what they have and actually does good things with his money...



Yes, once again I'm pointing out just how big of an utter failure you are...



And, yeah, I'm sure you believe that...



Sure you are. It's obvious.

Would you like me to explain to you how I know this?



Those aren't "friends", you dumbass. Those are "fellow residents"...



Oh, but I have a plethora of friends. Some have money, many do not. See, someone having money doesn't impress me, and I would never dream of gauging someone's worth by the balance of their checking account or the value of their investments. Interestingly, my friends don't seem to really care that I have money, either. The friends I have now would still be my friends if I were broke. That's how I measure success. My daughter wouldn't love me any less if I was a cook at IHOP. how I measure success.

Caring that some old geezer in a group home doesn't like me? Lemme' tell ya' Gramps, you're way the fuck down on the list of things I truly I give a shit about.

A good friend of mine owns one of the largest instrument companies in the United States. He's fabulously wealthy. When I was starting my first business he gave me a mountain of advice, as he had followed a similar path when he was starting his business decades before. He told me that having money is great, but it doesn't mean a thing if you don't do good things with it. As I have mountains of respect for the man, I took that to heart. As a result I, and my companies, are quite charitable. Either that obviously means nothing to you, or you're too big a coward to acknowledge it, simply because doing so would require you admitting you were wrong and, at 85, you probably figure you'll be dead soon and you don't want one of the last things you do to be admitting failure...

You lose your cool too easily to be any kind of success. And you spend way too much time on the Internet posting bullshit to be the chief executive of anything.

I suspect the people who suggested that you are just a bullshitter posting bullshit...are correct.

I guess I have to just enjoy handing you your ass...especially since it is being done by someone you consider a stupid, ignorant, liar.

Don't you realize it is silly to say those things about someone who owns you the way I do?



Story about Alexander the Great to follow.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Hardly, grandpa...



The reality is you're too stupid and ignorant to do either...

There is a story, perhaps apocryphal, about Alexander the Great and his rival, Darius III of Persia.

Supposedly Darius sent a note to Alexander just before a major battle where he referred to Alexander as a “boy”…and advised him to go back to his mother.

Alexander quickly wrote back, saying, “Big mistake, Darius. If you win this battle, people will note that you defeated a boy. No glory in that. And if I win, people will note that you were beaten by a mere boy."

SG…you are the Darius type. All talk…and not the kind of talk that does you any good.

I am enjoying kicking your ass as hard and often as I am. Please stick around for more.

 

[Street Glider]

Three weeks ago would have been in January. That is not their busiest season, it is the calmest season, right after Christmas. There is no way they would go to full staffing at their calmest, no matter what salary was. This is just common sense. They open most of their registers in December, and close most of them in January.

And yet the self-serve kiosks were doing a pretty brisk business. Plus, they added more self-serve kiosks. That's not something they likely would've done if they were planning on bringing back their hourly cashier's...

Florida's minimum wage is $10, not $15. So even at $10 minimum wage, they refuse to hire people to sit around doing nothing. What salary would be low enough to have employees sitting there doing nothing? I really do not know.

Our minimum wage is being raised to $15 over time. On September 30, 2026, our minimum wage will be $15 an hour. The local Wal-Mart Manager has been told his store will be 100% self serve at the front of the store by 2025...

 

[danielpalos]

Automation can help with supply-side economics during any pandemic.

 

[Street Glider]

You lose your cool too easily to be any kind of success.

It's frustrating. Every individual who works for me is a stellar human. I don't get to call anyone out on their profound failings unless I come here and talk to you...

And you spend way too much time on the Internet posting bullshit to be the chief executive of anything.

It's called time management, my friend...

I guess I have to just enjoy handing you your ass...especially since it is being done by someone you consider a stupid, ignorant, liar.

Trust me, my ass is intact. You've handed nothing to no one...

Don't you realize it is silly to say those things about someone who owns you the way I do?

You own nothing. You're just a piece of shit racist who knows his days are numbered because he's so fucking old and who has no one to love him.

I would pity you, but I don't pity racists...

 

[Walt]

The local Wal-Mart Manager has been told his store will be 100% self serve at the front of the store by 2025...

I used to write POS (point of sale) software, though sometimes it felt like POS stood for something else. I keep my toe in the water, and own part of a POS company. I can reassure you that you are wrong.

There needs to be some people working self service to help customers, and to confront thieves. AI will not be good enough by 2025 to do either. There are many moral questions we have to answer before we let computers decide how to confront potential thieves leaving the store. In general, you need at least 2 employees in the area of the cash registers, so that if one is distracted, there is a backup. They generally watch for anything going wrong, whether on purpose or not.

 

[Monad Portal]

I know we don't get along, AHZ, but some of your responses in this thread have given me a new and different perspective of you.

I'm sure we will continue to bust each other's balls, but your thoughts on the issues raised here are heartening.

thank you, sir.

 

[Monad Portal]

I used to write POS (point of sale) software, though sometimes it felt like POS stood for something else. I keep my toe in the water, and own part of a POS company. I can reassure you that you are wrong.

There needs to be some people working self service to help customers, and to confront thieves. AI will not be good enough by 2025 to do either. There are many moral questions we have to answer before we let computers decide how to confront potential thieves leaving the store. In general, you need at least 2 employees in the area of the cash registers, so that if one is distracted, there is a backup. They generally watch for anything going wrong, whether on purpose or not.

someone needs to be there when you did or did not put the item in the bag when you should or should not have left it in the cart. so many scale problems. and if you need beer and smokes, you need a slackjawed mouthbreather to come tell you it's ok.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I used to write POS (point of sale) software, though sometimes it felt like POS stood for something else. I keep my toe in the water, and own part of a POS company. I can reassure you that you are wrong.

There needs to be some people working self service to help customers, and to confront thieves. AI will not be good enough by 2025 to do either. There are many moral questions we have to answer before we let computers decide how to confront potential thieves leaving the store. In general, you need at least 2 employees in the area of the cash registers, so that if one is distracted, there is a backup. They generally watch for anything going wrong, whether on purpose or not.

Nonetheless, staff can be reduced. Instead of having 10 employees up front, there will be two.

 

[Ross Dolan]

It's frustrating. Every individual who works for me is a stellar human. I don't get to call anyone out on their profound failings unless I come here and talk to you...

Yeah, sure. I'd say I am sorry that I own you...but it would be lying. And I do not do that, despite your claims that I do.

It's called time management, my friend...

Sure! All I can do is make a guess, but my guess is, as some have already charged, that you are a phony just here bullshitting us.

It is not impossible that you actually are what you claim, but considering how little control you have over your temper and conduct, it is unlikely.

I do enjoy watching you constantly patting yourself on the back, though. You do it so well!

Trust me, my ass is intact. You've handed nothing to no one...

Trust you??? C'mon. We're having a serious discussion here.

Anyway, I have handed lots of things to lots of people...and to you...I have handed you your ass.

If you do not understand that I have, just Google "handed him his ass" and you will see that I have on several occasions...on a fucking plate!

You own nothing. You're just a piece of shit racist who knows his days are numbered because he's so fucking old and who has no one to love him.

I would pity you, but I don't pity racists...

Well, I pity you.

I am not a racist...and your childish, ham-fisted attempts to get me to ask you about that comment are cracking me up. You truly are an amateur at this Internet forum debate stuff.