So, You Want $15 An Hour?

T. A. Gardner said:
Those making that study are clearly idiots.

Welfare simplified: The government takes $10 from someone producing something that generates wealth. They use $2 of that to pay people to take and redistribute it, generating nothing. The other $8 they hand to someone who can then spend it in a multitude of ways that doesn't generate any wealth. The net result is a drain on wealth, not a multiplier of it.
The reason for that is, the $10 could have been spent by the one generating it to the same effect, or in part reinvested to generate additional wealth. Redistribution is not a wealth generator.





There, fixed that for you. The Left are the ones that invented Socialism and its more virulent cousin, Communism. They are the ones that suggest that wealth is finite and that redistribution of that finite wealth is morally justified. The non-Left recognizes that wealth can be generated and increased in amount. It isn't fixed. The Right came up with the concept of Time Value of Money too.

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Sounds as though you comment to Glider went right over his head.

He obviously is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
Street Glider said:
Fuck you. I don't lie. I don't have to.

And, no, I'm not a lawyer. In fact, I never even went to college.

And I could buy and sell your punk ass...
Well, that just shows how absolutely ignorant someone like you can be...
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Okay. What's this company of yours do? Could you give us a link to its webpage? You never know, someone here might need what your company sells or does.

I think it's hysterical that you say this: "That aside, you work hard, save and invest and you end up in a comfortable place later in life. You make things better for your kids too" and then stupidly try to ridicule someone who's worked hard, saved and invested and has ended up in a comfortable place later in life, and who's made things better for his kid, too.
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Why?

What's your monthly nut likely to be on that $1 million mortgage?0
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Nothing, since I'd be paying cash. Selling two houses in Phoenix and a property I own covers the price entirely (2 x 450,000 + 1 x 120,000).
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Those making that study are clearly idiots.

Welfare simplified: The government takes $10 from someone producing something that generates wealth. They use $2 of that to pay people to take and redistribute it, generating nothing. The other $8 they hand to someone who can then spend it in a multitude of ways that doesn't generate any wealth. The net result is a drain on wealth, not a multiplier of it.
The reason for that is, the $10 could have been spent by the one generating it to the same effect, or in part reinvested to generate additional wealth. Redistribution is not a wealth generator.





There, fixed that for you. The Left are the ones that invented Socialism and its more virulent cousin, Communism. They are the ones that suggest that wealth is finite and that redistribution of that finite wealth is morally justified. The non-Left recognizes that wealth can be generated and increased in amount. It isn't fixed. The Right came up with the concept of Time Value of Money too.

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lol. Too bad you are on the right-wing and have no "gospel Truth".
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Okay. What's this company of yours do? Could you give us a link to its webpage? You never know, someone here might need what your company sells or does.
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Yeah, because I'm going to post the name of my business so some shitbag on the internet can start fucking with me.

You're monumentally stupid...

Why?
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Because doing that makes you a hypocrite, that's why...
 
Frank Apisa said:
Oh, shit. It was easier to rattle your cage than I expected.

Big shot...all in a lather. You are closer to being a cartoon charater.
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I don;t know what a "charater" is. Is that something you had back in the 40's?

Okay, so you "...provide an inviting, fun and vibrant working environment for my employees..." And I suppose that because you do, they do not mind that you have no true humanity.

Fine with me.
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See, this is what I don't understand. How in the fuck do you reach the conclusion that I have no humanity? Because I believe people should work if they're to be paid? I got news for you: More people believe as I do than as you do...

My guess: I am much more successful "at life" than you will ever be. I am happy and content...and you sound as though you are neither.
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Doubtful.

If I was any happier I'd have to be twins...

Jealousy is simply not something that part of me...in any way. And if I were jealous...I seriously doubt I would be jealous of you. You sound like someone who should be pitied, not someone to be jealous of.
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Whether they choose to admit it or not, jealousy is a part of everyone, at least to some degree. As for me coming across as someone to be pitied, that's interesting. I'm successful, I've got a smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend, 15 years my junior, who loves me, and all of the creature comforts a man could ever want.

Exactly what's to be pitied?

Not sure where you got that idea, but let it go. It ain't so.
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Sure it is. You're a coward, though, so you'll never admit it...

I am old...but no sippy cup and no diaper.
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Ah, you're correct. They don't actually use the word "diaper":

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Street Glider said:
I don;t know what a "charater" is. Is that something you had back in the 40's?
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It is what is called a typo, SG. Sorta like that "don;t" you just posted.


See, this is what I don't understand. How in the fuck do you reach the conclusion that I have no humanity? Because I believe people should work if they're to be paid? I got news for you: More people believe as I do than as you do...
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I understand that you do not understand. I do not hold that against you, because you do not seem to be all that bright on some matters.

You definitely have very little humanity...if you have any at all.



Doubtful.

If I was any happier I'd have to be twins...
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Actually, the correct wording for that sentence is, "If I were any happier, I'd have to be twins."

It is written in the conditional subjunctive mood...and you fucked it up.

Even if it were grammatically correct, I suspect it is bullshit.



Whether they choose to admit it or not, jealousy is a part of everyone, at least to some degree. As for me coming across as someone to be pitied, that's interesting. I'm successful, I've got a smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend, 15 years my junior, who loves me, and all of the creature comforts a man could ever want.

Exactly what's to be pitied?
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I pity the fact that you have to kid yourself as much as you do.



Sure it is. You're a coward, though, so you'll never admit it...
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Oh, gosh. Now you are calling me a coward. You, posting here using an alias, calling me a coward.

You fell apart too quickly. You should have held out for a while...and then pretended exasperation a few weeks down the way.

You gotta clean up your game if you want to play with the adults, SG.

Ah, you're correct. They don't actually use the word "diaper":

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That kind of crap is from Internet Forum 101.

C'mon. Tighten up your game and stop making a fool of yourself.

;)
 
Frank Apisa said:
I understand that you do not understand. I do not hold that against you, because you do not seem to be all that bright on some matters.

You definitely have very little humanity...if you have any at all.
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And, as in your life, you prove to be a complete fucking failure in explaining how you determine that I have no humanity. I challenge you to explain that. Or, don't, and continue to be a complete failure.

I really don't give a shit either way...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, you can't even tell us what this business does? Is it like, a double plus secret or something?
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I've already discussed where I live on this forum. The industry I'm in is small enough that, yeah, explaining what we do would be a dead giveaway. There are only two other companies in Florida that do what we do; one in Ft. Lauderdale and one in Pensacola.

Sorry, but you don't get to have that information...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The Left is clueless about economics. That's probably because Leftists eschew math and science. That's why they get simple liberal arts degrees that don't require math and science.
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I'm old enough to remember Conservatives promising the Russia Tax Cut would lead to growth of at least 3%. Actual growth: 2.85% for the first year only, lower than Obama's best of 2.88%

The tax cut led to a recession that started the month before any COVID lockdowns:

It's official: Recession began in February, ending longest U.S. expansion ever
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-states-recession-started-february/

And another promise was that business investment would increase thanks to the tax cut, but the opposite happened:

A Decline in Capital Investment Reveals the False Promise of Drumpf’s Tax Bill
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...-reveals-the-false-promise-of-trumps-tax-bill

And of course, Conservatives said the tax cut would pay for itself...well, it didn't:

US budget deficit expands to $779 billion in fiscal 2018 as spending surges
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/us-...illion-in-fiscal-2018-as-spending-surges.html
 
Why is it right-wingers never have any better solutions at lower cost? Capitalism; What is That, sayeth the right-wing.

Why not solve for simple poverty via equal protection of our own laws so labor can obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?
 
danielpalos said:
Why is it right-wingers never have any better solutions at lower cost? Capitalism; What is That, sayeth the right-wing.

Why not solve for simple poverty via equal protection of our own laws so labor can obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?
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??????????????? One can collect U/E in any state.
 
Sailor said:
You seriously do not think homelessness is a caused by unemployment benefits.....they have homelessness problems in every state.
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Yes, it is termed and styled, unequal protection of our own at-will employment laws for unemployment compensation that could solve most of our social problems under our form of Capitalism.

Why Insist on Socialism when capitalism will work wonders instead?
 
danielpalos said:
Yes, it is termed and styled, unequal protection of our own at-will employment laws for unemployment compensation that could solve most of our social problems under our form of Capitalism.

Why Insist on Socialism when capitalism will work wonders instead?
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Who want socialism?
 
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