So who wants witnesses

The Dems in the House can “want” til Hell freezes over but the Republicans are showing unity and they have the votes.

This circus will end shortly.

Republicans have not shown the unity to get this over immediately. Remember when trump was demanding an immediate dismissal?
 
They don’t know, exactly lol.

Nobody knows what Hunter or the WB would say. Think about that. Imagine having an actual trial where witnesses take the stand that neither side has deposed.

This is not the way it’s supposed to work.

He could explain what he was calling a "drug deal."
 
Republicans have not shown the unity to get this over immediately. Remember when trump was demanding an immediate dismissal?

The current unity issue with Democrats over Hunter Biden.

This morning they were ‘mulling over it’ but Shifty was denouncing it this afternoon. Democrats also keep citing the poll numbers that favor witnesses—but it’s likely people are wanting to hear ALL witnesses and not just the witnesses Democrats want.

At any rate, if there are no witnesses [and that ball is in the Democrats court] this should be over quick.
 
Which is his right lol.

If we make invoking executive privilege an impeachable offense—we are going to see a lot more impeachments. Probably will anyway, after this.

Executive privilege has conditions. Trump is not above the law. When you claim executive privilege, you cannot do a blanket statement. Even rightys can understand how that would put him above the law. He has to be specific and in the documentation, they have to go through the papers and have what should not be known, blacked out.Trump has resisted that because he is way too lazy to do that much work.
 
If trump were as innocent as Republicans claimed, you would think Republicans would want as many witnesses as possible.

If the Stalin-O-Crats' case was as "AIRTIGHT" as they have been claiming for over a month, they would not need ANY MORE INVESTIGATION, and it is NOT THE SENATE'S JOB TO INVESTIGATE.

THE INNOCENT ARE HOT REQUIRED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE; the STALIN-O-CRATS MUST PROVE THE CASE THEY VOTED ON...and THEY KNOW THEY CANNOT.
 
Which is his right lol.

If we make invoking executive privilege an impeachable offense—we are going to see a lot more impeachments. Probably will anyway, after this.
But he hasn’t invoked executive privilege his lawyers lied. Also, some requested documents were released under FOIA, how is that possible if Trump has claimed executive privilege. This is just another distraction. Also, remember the Supreme Court ruling on Nixon and executive privilege.
 
Executive privilege has conditions. Trump is not above the law. When you claim executive privilege, you cannot do a blanket statement. Even rightys can understand how that would put him above the law. He has to be specific and in the documentation, they have to go through the papers and have what should not be known, blacked out.Trump has resisted that because he is way too lazy to do that much work.

That is why we have the courts.. why didn't the lazy house challenge?
 
Which is his right lol.

If we make invoking executive privilege an impeachable offense—we are going to see a lot more impeachments. Probably will anyway, after this.

It may be his right and it also shows his fear about what Bolton might say. He should welcome testimony that would presumably prove trump didn't do what he did for nefarious reasons.
 
If the Stalin-O-Crats' case was as "AIRTIGHT" as they have been claiming for over a month, they would not need ANY MORE INVESTIGATION, and it is NOT THE SENATE'S JOB TO INVESTIGATE.

THE INNOCENT ARE HOT REQUIRED TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE; the STALIN-O-CRATS MUST PROVE THE CASE THEY VOTED ON...and THEY KNOW THEY CANNOT.

If the repugs were so certain of trump's rightness they would welcome their people like Bolton testifying to that.
 
It may be his right and it also shows his fear about what Bolton might say. He should welcome testimony that would presumably prove trump didn't do what he did for nefarious reasons.

Well, Trump said today he wanted to hear from Bolton, so that’s out.

The witness thing is up to Democrats and whether they’re willing to risk putting Hunter on the stand in exchange for Bolton.

What do you suppose they fear?
 
Well, Trump said today he wanted to hear from Bolton, so that’s out.

The witness thing is up to Democrats and whether they’re willing to risk putting Hunter on the stand in exchange for Bolton.

What do you suppose they fear?

I don't think they fear anything. They know HB is irrelevant to their case.
 
Hello Darth,

The current unity issue with Democrats over Hunter Biden.

This morning they were ‘mulling over it’ but Shifty was denouncing it this afternoon. Democrats also keep citing the poll numbers that favor witnesses—but it’s likely people are wanting to hear ALL witnesses and not just the witnesses Democrats want.

At any rate, if there are no witnesses [and that ball is in the Democrats court] this should be over quick.

It is amazing that people can sit and listen to 12 hours of detailed reasons the witnesses and evidence are important to this case and then vote to have no witnesses and no evidence.

That only happens when people are in fear of being tweet-shamed.
 
Hello Darth,

Which is his right lol.

If we make invoking executive privilege an impeachable offense—we are going to see a lot more impeachments. Probably will anyway, after this.

At what point has the administration invoked executive privilege? When has the president said he doesn't have to comply because executive privilege allows him not to? I don't recall Trump ever using those words.
 
Many Republicans want witnesses. ALL witnesses lol.

Democrats are harping about witnesses even though they balk at Hunter Biden appearing. Nadler said Hunter was off the table so witnesses are at an impasse as it stands.

I don’t think there should be any more witnesses as a matter of principle. It’s clear to everyone, by now, that the articles were ‘a rushed job’ and never should have been voted on to begin with. The House [under control of either party] shouldn’t be allowed to send an incomplete investigation over to the Senate and expect the Senate to complete it for them. Or well, if they do send them, it won’t be with the expectation that the Senate will play along.

I think the Senate has a responsibility to preserve the sanctity of the impeachment process, IOW. And yes, I think it’s much more important than what is even alleged against Trump. Trump will be gone at some point, the bit with Hunter and Ukraine was going to come up, sooner or later, but we’ll have to live with ‘easy impeachments’ for decades, if Democrats are allowed to get away with this.

Hunter did not witness nor was involved whatsoever in Trump's abuse of power or obstruction of Congress.

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