So WHO is The Liar, Donald Trump or The Marines?

Ok...;)
(The parade is great, btw....President was in the Oval Office / White House yesterday, unless you can Prove otherwise. We'll just have to agree to disagree;)

The question is not whether Donald Trump was in the Oval Office yesterday. Stop moving the goal posts. It makes you look sillier than usual.

The question is whether or not Donald Trump was in the Oval Office at the time he tweeted that he was in the Oval Office.

We don't have to disagree.

I DO NOT KNOW IF HE WAS OR NOT.

NEITHER DO YOU.

On the question of the photo...I do not know for certain if it was taken yesterday or not.

Neither do you.

BUT YOU ARE ASSERTING YOU DO KNOW IT WAS NOT TAKEN YESTERDAY.

Stop your bullshit and acknowledge you do not know...and we can be in full agreement.



Who warned you (all of them)? that's hilarious:laugh:*

Lots of people.

They warned me in public...in posts where we both were posting.

Most of what they suggested of your duplicity and passive/aggressive nonsense seems to be accurate.
 
The question is not whether Donald Trump was in the Oval Office yesterday. Stop moving the goal posts. It makes you look sillier than usual.

The question is whether or not Donald Trump was in the Oval Office at the time he tweeted that he was in the Oval Office.

We don't have to disagree.

I DO NOT KNOW IF HE WAS OR NOT.

NEITHER DO YOU.

On the question of the photo...I do not know for certain if it was taken yesterday or not.

Neither do you.

BUT YOU ARE ASSERTING YOU DO KNOW IT WAS NOT TAKEN YESTERDAY.

Stop your bullshit and acknowledge you do not know...and we can be in full agreement.





Lots of people.

They warned me in public...in posts where we both were posting.

Most of what they suggested of your duplicity and passive/aggressive nonsense seems to be accurate.
So, we're both giving our opinions...why do you have a problem with me giving mine? Lots of people? In public? Oh, no....which of their 20 accounts? Granted, many are gone now...lol*‘
 
No...I think HE is going to catch HIM.

He is a fucking moron...and all the moronic shit he has done over the years WILL come out.

At least...that is my guess.

And my other guess is that the morons who still support him will fall all over themselves pretending none of that stuff matters.

That is because you guys are assholes.
Pissing off leftists is a federal crime. I hope he goes to jail for 1000 years.
 
So, we're both giving our opinions...why do you have a problem with me giving mine?

Are you fucking crazy, stupid, rock-headed...or all three?

I give my opinions as opinions.

YOU WROTE: "It's a real photo...just not taken yesterday"

THAT is not an opinion...it is an assertion.

If you do not understand what I am saying here...please go back and reconsider my first sentence...the one with the question mark.


Lots of people? In public? Oh, no....which of their 20 accounts? Granted, many are gone now...lol*‘

Whatever.

Lots of posts saying you are not to be trusted...that you are stone-headed...that you cloud what you mean rather than say what what the hell you mean...and stuff like that.

I disregarded it for a while...I figured it was personal.

BUT...I've come to consider you to be an unreliable conversation partner...and a phony.

We certainly can talk about this.
 
You did not say it might be.

YOU SAID:

"The only problem is the picture you idiots put so much faith is was clearly not taken today so it must be a file picture. "

But you do not have the guts or ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that you are full of shit.

I might point out to you that although you do not acknowledge that you are full of shit...

...does not mean you are not full of shit.

Frank
I concede I was incorrect about the picture. You have won a great VICTORY for the Trump haters! Here is an article that puts your whole argument in the proper perspective. Even if I do disagree with the author on the wall issue.

"Whenever the President of the United States is at work in the Oval Office, there is a U.S. Marine stationed outside of the doors. It’s only one of four guys—a special detail of non-commissioned officers who serve as ceremonial (and practical) guards for the White House’s west wing. When the President is not at work (or isn’t in the Oval Office at least), there’s no Marine at the door. This is one of those little details about the White House that everyday people might not necessarily know or think about, but that White House correspondents think about a lot, because they are professional knowers of these little details. Here is my opinion: I do not fucking care.
Earlier today, the President tweeted that he was “in the Oval Office.”
But as many, many White House reporters quickly pointed out, there was no marine at the door for a long-ass time in the morning and afternoon. Wow. Got him.
Oh, interesting. So the marine might not be there because it’s a holiday or something. We should be looking for a Secret Service guy instead! Or maybe we shouldn’t because it literally does not matter where the dumb lazy president is right now.
Is there a marine at the door now? I don’t know, because I don’t fucking care. (The header image to this article is of a marine on Obama’s last day in office.)
We already know that this guy is a lazy asshole who watches TV all fucking day and doesn’t like to work. This is not at all new. Does it really matter if he’s shitposting on Twitter from his desk or from his bed in the residence? No.
The optics of Trump being in bed right now, of course, are not good: the government is currently shut down and the lazy President is potentially still in bed, which is why the deputy press secretary rushed to his defense to say that ACTUALLY, he was at work.

But do bad optics even matter? Does this “gotcha” shit do anything to erode the President’s base of support or undermine his policies or inform people about their impact? No, it does not. Republicans spent the entire Obama presidency complaining about how much he went on vacation and then Trump came along and absolutely blew his predecessor’s leisure time out of the water. Did it matter? No.
I do not care that the president is being unsurprisingly lazy but I do care that hundreds of thousands of federal employees are working for no money or sitting at home furloughed with no money coming in even though rent is due tomorrow. There are very real human impacts of the president’s obstinate refusal to run a functioning government until he gets enough money to pour a bunch of concrete on the Mexican border. Every White House reporter working themselves into a tizzy over Schrödinger’s President in the Oval Office is wasting their time."

https://splinternews.com/please-dont-ask-me-to-care-if-trump-is-in-his-office-or-1831404502
 
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Are you fucking crazy, stupid, rock-headed...or all three?

I give my opinions as opinions.

YOU WROTE: "It's a real photo...just not taken yesterday"

THAT is not an opinion...it is an assertion.

If you do not understand what I am saying here...please go back and reconsider my first sentence...the one with the question mark.




Whatever.

Lots of posts saying you are not to be trusted...that you are stone-headed...that you cloud what you mean rather than say what what the hell you mean...and stuff like that.

I disregarded it for a while...I figured it was personal.

BUT...I've come to consider you to be an unreliable conversation partner...and a phony.

We certainly can talk about this.
those are my opinions;)
(I reply in kind ‘to most posts, but in a much more "refined way" if they're off the charts looney-I don't need to rage or swear or name call-not long ago you said we were both here having fun-what happened>..we can talk about that if you like;)
(still would like to see the names of who warned you...if there's lots and lots, shouldn't be too hard. I need to know who my "enemies" are...for the record, you know;)
 
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Frank
I concede I was incorrect about the picture. You have won a great VICTORY for the Trump haters! Here is an article that puts your whole argument in the proper perspective. Enven if I do disagree with the author on the wall issue.

"Whenever the President of the United States is at work in the Oval Office, there is a U.S. Marine stationed outside of the doors. It’s only one of four guys—a special detail of non-commissioned officers who serve as ceremonial (and practical) guards for the White House’s west wing. When the President is not at work (or isn’t in the Oval Office at least), there’s no Marine at the door. This is one of those little details about the White House that everyday people might not necessarily know or think about, but that White House correspondents think about a lot, because they are professional knowers of these little details. Here is my opinion: I do not fucking care.
Earlier today, the President tweeted that he was “in the Oval Office.”
But as many, many White House reporters quickly pointed out, there was no marine at the door for a long-ass time in the morning and afternoon. Wow. Got him.
Oh, interesting. So the marine might not be there because it’s a holiday or something. We should be looking for a Secret Service guy instead! Or maybe we shouldn’t because it literally does not matter where the dumb lazy president is right now.
Is there a marine at the door now? I don’t know, because I don’t fucking care. (The header image to this article is of a marine on Obama’s last day in office.)
We already know that this guy is a lazy asshole who watches TV all fucking day and doesn’t like to work. This is not at all new. Does it really matter if he’s shitposting on Twitter from his desk or from his bed in the residence? No.
The optics of Trump being in bed right now, of course, are not good: the government is currently shut down and the lazy President is potentially still in bed, which is why the deputy press secretary rushed to his defense to say that ACTUALLY, he was at work.

But do bad optics even matter? Does this “gotcha” shit do anything to erode the President’s base of support or undermine his policies or inform people about their impact? No, it does not. Republicans spent the entire Obama presidency complaining about how much he went on vacation and then Trump came along and absolutely blew his predecessor’s leisure time out of the water. Did it matter? No.
I do not care that the president is being unsurprisingly lazy but I do care that hundreds of thousands of federal employees are working for no money or sitting at home furloughed with no money coming in even though rent is due tomorrow. There are very real human impacts of the president’s obstinate refusal to run a functioning government until he gets enough money to pour a bunch of concrete on the Mexican border. Every White House reporter working themselves into a tizzy over Schrödinger’s President in the Oval Office is wasting their time."

https://splinternews.com/please-dont-ask-me-to-care-if-trump-is-in-his-office-or-1831404502

Thank you, Grumpy.
 
He was in the Oval Office, according to WH sources....the marine guard isn't always a given it seems....

those are my opinions;)
(I reply in kind to posts to most posts, but in a much more "refined way" if they're off the charts looney-I don't need to rage or swear or name call-not long ago you said we were both here having fun-what happened>..we can talk about that if you like;)
(still would like to see the names of who warned you...if there's lots and lots, shouldn't be too hard. I need to know who my "enemies" are...for the record, you know;)

You have no enemies Toxic,we all love your bony ass!
 
those are my opinions;)
(I reply in kind to posts to most posts, but in a much more "refined way" if they're off the charts looney-I don't need to rage or swear or name call-not long ago you said we were both here having fun-what happened>

YOU attempted to brag that YOU were the first to say that the photo clearly was not taken "today"...and you then posted "...it was not taken 'yesterday '"

They both sound like definite assertions...not opinions. If they are your opinions...phrase them more like opinions...rather than as assertions. Then people will not ask you for proof.



..we can talk about that if you like;)

I honestly do not enjoy talking with you at all. You are not a reliable conversation partner. When you make mistakes or are wrong...you seem unable to simply say, "Okay, I was wrong."



(still would like to see the names of who warned you...if there's lots and lots, shouldn't be too hard. I need to know who my "enemies" are...for the record, you know;)

I truly do not give a shit about what you want, TOP.

If anyone here want to declare you an "enemy"...that's up to them.

I DO NOT consider you an enemy. I consider you an unreliable conversation partner.
 
YOU attempted to brag that YOU were the first to say that the photo clearly was not taken "today"...and you then posted "...it was not taken 'yesterday '"

They both sound like definite assertions...not opinions. If they are your opinions...phrase them more like opinions...rather than as assertions. Then people will not ask you for proof.





I honestly do not enjoy talking with you at all. You are not a reliable conversation partner. When you make mistakes or are wrong...you seem unable to simply say, "Okay, I was wrong."





I truly do not give a shit about what you want, TOP.

If anyone here want to declare you an "enemy"...that's up to them.

I DO NOT consider you an enemy. I consider you an unreliable conversation partner.

Watch your back,the knife will have Tops fingerprints!
She loves getting people banned
 
YOU attempted to brag that YOU were the first to say that the photo clearly was not taken "today"...and you then posted "...it was not taken 'yesterday '"

They both sound like definite assertions...not opinions. If they are your opinions...phrase them more like opinions...rather than as assertions. Then people will not ask you for proof.





I honestly do not enjoy talking with you at all. You are not a reliable conversation partner. When you make mistakes or are wrong...you seem unable to simply say, "Okay, I was wrong."





I truly do not give a shit about what you want, TOP.

If anyone here want to declare you an "enemy"...that's up to them.

I DO NOT consider you an enemy. I consider you an unreliable conversation partner.
I did express the opinion first, though-I thought this was such a silly thread, I couldn't resist:)....
Ok on the rest-I will not post to you again...just thought I would ask you for examples, but I'll find them;)
(rest assured, I comment whenever I think a person is posting out of control in a way that is hazardous to their health...not just you;)
It's been real....
 
I have been civil to you but when you say out right lies I'm going to call you. And the saying "out of your butt" may be a little rude but not disrespectful. If you want to talk politics then either get a thicker skin or find a namby pamby forum.

You called her a liar, and followed up by telling her to find another forum. . Pretty insulting, and it doesn't help coming from newbie who calls themselves "Grumpy".

She has been on this forum for over a decade, and reputable long-timers here can tell you she never lies. Her good reputation has been made here, and made in spades.
 
Oh, my...hmmm....I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that "stellar, unblemished" reputation....from experience...
 
You called her a liar, and followed up by telling her to find another forum. . Pretty insulting, and it doesn't help coming from newbie who calls themselves "Grumpy".

She has been on this forum for over a decade, and reputable long-timers here can tell you she never lies. Her good reputation has been made here, and made in spades.

You want insults here is an insult for you! Fuck you pussy face.
 
You guys are arguing about whether it is CST or PST. Many apps adjust time to YOUR time zone so you don't see items posted 3 hours in the future.

But I guess in the case of many people here, they are living 50 years in the past so it doesn't matter.
I took this into account. It’s still perplexing how a snapshot posted shows me one time and it shows others another time, like #122 a picture is posted, what time in the photo is displayed to you? I see 9:36? How does an app change a time in a photo?
I realized what was happening when I went to the actual Twitter feed, it reflects my time zone, but how can a photo of the tweet change times? I’m not technically savvy, could you explain?
 
Oh, my...hmmm....I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that "stellar, unblemished" reputation....from experience...
How so? Could you go into details, thanks. I have always been fair to you in my handling of your affairs, I’d like to know how your perceive Ive lied? Thanks
 
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