So this is what takers do

Watch the video.
Santorum " when does a baby get the protection of the constitution"( previously referring to LIFE liberty and the persuit if happiness)?

Boxer " when it is born, WHEN IT GETS HOME, when it belongs to its family".

That is exactly what she said.

How else could it be understood.
The child is not regarded a life until it gets home, it has no right to life until then.

No bloody wonder Douglas Kennedy fought so hard to protect his infant when two crazed nurses attempted to snatch his infant with clear intent to cause a cessation of breathing, pulse and brain activity.

When it is born. What is so difficult to understand? As Ms. Boxer explained birth is a procedure and like anything that requires a procedure it is not complete until the procedure is finished. One doesn't have a cake when getting the pan out of the cupboard or when mixing the ingredients or when putting it in the oven. When the cake is removed from the oven and placed on the stove top and checked to see if it's fully cooked.....then one has a cake.

Santorum was trying to nit-pick the exact time. That's why Ms. Boxer answered the way she did. Do we have a cake the moment we open the oven door before we check if it's fully cooked? If it is fully cooked do we have a cake between the time we remove it from the oven and place it on the stove top...a matter of maybe 5 or 10 seconds?

Santorum asking about a foot and a toe. The guy is a jackass.

In the cake analogy one does not have to put the cake on the stove top before considering it a cake any more than one has to bring a child home before it's considered born but Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the idiot who was attempting to nit-pick. Where do reaonable people draw the line? Do we have a cake the instant one opens the over door before removing it? The second it's cooked even though it's still in the oven? The 5-10 seconds before we put it on the stove top?

And as for Santorum's comments about a stuck foot or toe inside the woman partial birth abortions involve the feet coming out first so a foot or toe would not be stuck while the rest of the body is outside the woman. He doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about and he was badgering a woman who has birthed two children. He's an ignorant, disgusting man.
 
When it is born. What is so difficult to understand? As Ms. Boxer explained birth is a procedure and like anything that requires a procedure it is not complete until the procedure is finished. One doesn't have a cake when getting the pan out of the cupboard or when mixing the ingredients or when putting it in the oven. When the cake is removed from the oven and placed on the stove top and checked to see if it's fully cooked.....then one has a cake.

Santorum was trying to nit-pick the exact time. That's why Ms. Boxer answered the way she did. Do we have a cake the moment we open the oven door before we check if it's fully cooked? If it is fully cooked do we have a cake between the time we remove it from the oven and place it on the stove top...a matter of maybe 5 or 10 seconds?

Santorum asking about a foot and a toe. The guy is a jackass.

In the cake analogy one does not have to put the cake on the stove top before considering it a cake any more than one has to bring a child home before it's considered born but Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the idiot who was attempting to nit-pick. Where do reaonable people draw the line? Do we have a cake the instant one opens the over door before removing it? The second it's cooked even though it's still in the oven? The 5-10 seconds before we put it on the stove top?

And as for Santorum's comments about a stuck foot or toe inside the woman partial birth abortions involve the feet coming out first so a foot or toe would not be stuck while the rest of the body is outside the woman. He doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about and he was badgering a woman who has birthed two children. He's an ignorant, disgusting man.
Partial birth abortions 80% of the child is born before a sharp object is driven into the skull, often a pair of scissors, at this point the non alive thing thrusts its legs in agony, often a ear pricing scream is heard.
The brain is then sucked out causing the heart to stop and brain activity to cease.

So now the after birth abortion.
When an infant is fully delivered and the same procedure is performed.
Often records will say a foot or a hand remained undelivered.

Boxer wishes for abortions to be completed even days after the birthing is complete.

So tell me, logically, how can you be charged with murder of an unborn if an unborn is not alive?
Sidestepping won't work.

Could you be charged with murdering a rock?
 
When it is born. What is so difficult to understand? As Ms. Boxer explained birth is a procedure and like anything that requires a procedure it is not complete until the procedure is finished. One doesn't have a cake when getting the pan out of the cupboard or when mixing the ingredients or when putting it in the oven. When the cake is removed from the oven and placed on the stove top and checked to see if it's fully cooked.....then one has a cake.

Santorum was trying to nit-pick the exact time. That's why Ms. Boxer answered the way she did. Do we have a cake the moment we open the oven door before we check if it's fully cooked? If it is fully cooked do we have a cake between the time we remove it from the oven and place it on the stove top...a matter of maybe 5 or 10 seconds?

Santorum asking about a foot and a toe. The guy is a jackass.

In the cake analogy one does not have to put the cake on the stove top before considering it a cake any more than one has to bring a child home before it's considered born but Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the idiot who was attempting to nit-pick. Where do reaonable people draw the line? Do we have a cake the instant one opens the over door before removing it? The second it's cooked even though it's still in the oven? The 5-10 seconds before we put it on the stove top?

And as for Santorum's comments about a stuck foot or toe inside the woman partial birth abortions involve the feet coming out first so a foot or toe would not be stuck while the rest of the body is outside the woman. He doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about and he was badgering a woman who has birthed two children. He's an ignorant, disgusting man.

a cake is not a human life. end of story
 
Watch the video.
Santorum " when does a baby get the protection of the constitution"( previously referring to LIFE liberty and the persuit if happiness)?

Boxer " when it is born, WHEN IT GETS HOME, when it belongs to its family".

That is exactly what she said.

How else could it be understood.
The child is not regarded a life until it gets home, it has no right to life until then.

No bloody wonder Douglas Kennedy fought so hard to protect his infant when two crazed nurses attempted to snatch his infant with clear intent to cause a cessation of breathing, pulse and brain activity.

No, this is the exact quote from the video:

"When your baby is born, when you bring your baby home, and there is no such thing as partial birth, the baby belongs to your family". The sentence is one single idea with two interjections.

You can't just alter a quote to serve your needs. :palm:

I can't believe I'm having this conversation. It's just pathetic.
 
No, this is the exact quote from the video:

"When your baby is born, when you bring your baby home, and there is no such thing as partial birth, the baby belongs to your family". The sentence is one single idea with two interjections.

You can't just alter a quote to serve your needs. :palm:

I can't believe I'm having this conversation. It's just pathetic.
So now there is no such thing as a partial birth?
But laws exist allowing them, mentioning them?
The quote makes no sense.
Who does the baby belong to in the time between birth and the time it gets home and belongs to its family?

Nice clear question about liberal dogma.
Can any liberal offer a clear explanation of the meaning of boxers contradictory comments?
 
No, this is the exact quote from the video:

"When your baby is born, when you bring your baby home, and there is no such thing as partial birth, the baby belongs to your family". The sentence is one single idea with two interjections.

You can't just alter a quote to serve your needs. :palm:

I can't believe I'm having this conversation. It's just pathetic.

Best try and avoid logic, it don't fit the liberal dogma!
 
So now there is no such thing as a partial birth?
But laws exist allowing them, mentioning them?
The quote makes no sense.
Who does the baby belong to in the time between birth and the time it gets home and belongs to its family?

Nice clear question about liberal dogma.
Can any liberal offer a clear explanation of the meaning of boxers contradictory comments?

Lord knows I tried to explain it to you. It's like there's no such thing as a little bit pregnant. One is either pregnant or not pregnant. There is either a birth or there isn't a birth. Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the nincompoop. It's like a cake. Either the cake is finished baking and there is a cake or there isn't a cake.

It's the same nonsense as life begins at conception. When is conception? The moment the sperm enters the egg it can die before anything else takes place. Was there a conception? Who knows? Who knows if a baby will result from a fertilized cell? 50% of fertilized cells spontaneously abort. In some cases two individual cells result and then one is absorbed into the other. Did one twin eat the other? Where did the other "person" go?

Then we have cases where there are two heads on one body. Is/are they two people? If so, there have been cases where one head has been attached to a body that has 4 or 6 legs. Do legs define a person? Is the child that's born with 6 legs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...kistan-Doctors-successfully-remove-limbs.html) really 3 people? If 2 heads and one body can be classified as 2 people such as Abigail and Brittany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_and_Brittany_Hensel) why isn't one body with 6 legs considered 3 people? Or is it just the head that counts? I suppose human beings don't require a body. Just a talking head is suffice.

Where is the all-knowing Santorum. I'm sure he has the answers.

Like Shy Guy said, "I can't believe I'm having this conversation." Try to understand, 007, until there is a birth there is no birth. People can refer to half a birth or a partial birth or an almost birth but it doesn't mean any more than referring to a cake that's cooking in the oven as a partial cake because it hasn't finished baking. It's absurd gibberish and that's why Ms. Boxer gave up talking to the lunatic.
 
Lord knows I tried to explain it to you. It's like there's no such thing as a little bit pregnant. One is either pregnant or not pregnant. There is either a birth or there isn't a birth. Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the nincompoop. It's like a cake. Either the cake is finished baking and there is a cake or there isn't a cake.

It's the same nonsense as life begins at conception. When is conception? The moment the sperm enters the egg it can die before anything else takes place. Was there a conception? Who knows? Who knows if a baby will result from a fertilized cell? 50% of fertilized cells spontaneously abort. In some cases two individual cells result and then one is absorbed into the other. Did one twin eat the other? Where did the other "person" go?

Then we have cases where there are two heads on one body. Is/are they two people? If so, there have been cases where one head has been attached to a body that has 4 or 6 legs. Do legs define a person? Is the child that's born with 6 legs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...kistan-Doctors-successfully-remove-limbs.html) really 3 people? If 2 heads and one body can be classified as 2 people such as Abigail and Brittany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_and_Brittany_Hensel) why isn't one body with 6 legs considered 3 people? Or is it just the head that counts? I suppose human beings don't require a body. Just a talking head is suffice.

Where is the all-knowing Santorum. I'm sure he has the answers.

Like Shy Guy said, "I can't believe I'm having this conversation." Try to understand, 007, until there is a birth there is no birth. People can refer to half a birth or a partial birth or an almost birth but it doesn't mean any more than referring to a cake that's cooking in the oven as a partial cake because it hasn't finished baking. It's absurd gibberish and that's why Ms. Boxer gave up talking to the lunatic.

So if it isn't a life, then why did Billy Clinton say these words?

"I want abortion to be safe, legal and rare"

Why would the serial cheater want abortion to be rare? What about abortion would cause him to want it to be rare?

Thanks in advance for what I am sure will be a phenomenal exercise in spin
 
So if it isn't a life, then why did Billy Clinton say these words?

"I want abortion to be safe, legal and rare"

Why would the serial cheater want abortion to be rare? What about abortion would cause him to want it to be rare?

Thanks in advance for what I am sure will be a phenomenal exercise in spin

Why would anyone want any medical procedure to proliferate? I hope all medical procedures are safe, legal and rare. Don't you?
 
Lord knows I tried to explain it to you. It's like there's no such thing as a little bit pregnant. One is either pregnant or not pregnant. There is either a birth or there isn't a birth. Ms. Boxer was trying to explain it to the nincompoop. It's like a cake. Either the cake is finished baking and there is a cake or there isn't a cake.

It's the same nonsense as life begins at conception. When is conception? The moment the sperm enters the egg it can die before anything else takes place. Was there a conception? Who knows? Who knows if a baby will result from a fertilized cell? 50% of fertilized cells spontaneously abort. In some cases two individual cells result and then one is absorbed into the other. Did one twin eat the other? Where did the other "person" go?

Then we have cases where there are two heads on one body. Is/are they two people? If so, there have been cases where one head has been attached to a body that has 4 or 6 legs. Do legs define a person? Is the child that's born with 6 legs (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...kistan-Doctors-successfully-remove-limbs.html) really 3 people? If 2 heads and one body can be classified as 2 people such as Abigail and Brittany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_and_Brittany_Hensel) why isn't one body with 6 legs considered 3 people? Or is it just the head that counts? I suppose human beings don't require a body. Just a talking head is suffice.

Where is the all-knowing Santorum. I'm sure he has the answers.

Like Shy Guy said, "I can't believe I'm having this conversation." Try to understand, 007, until there is a birth there is no birth. People can refer to half a birth or a partial birth or an almost birth but it doesn't mean any more than referring to a cake that's cooking in the oven as a partial cake because it hasn't finished baking. It's absurd gibberish and that's why Ms. Boxer gave up talking to the lunatic.
So a baby is not a life until it gets home from the hospital?
According to boxer, when it is born, when it gets home.

That's birth?

So why all the intimidation of new parents by hospitals, searching parents, checking IDs and matching tags?
Why bother, it's not a life!!
So if you were baking a cake and one of your beloved criminals crept into your house and took the cake from your oven half way through the cooking time that would not be a theft, right?
You can't steal what does not exist!

Ok!
So why was douglas Kennedy charged with child endangerment for wishing to take his unborn child for a walk?
You can't endanger that which is not a life!
Is it log endangerment if you take a log for a walk?
 
So a baby is not a life until it gets home from the hospital?
According to boxer, when it is born, when it gets home.

That's birth?

So why all the intimidation of new parents by hospitals, searching parents, checking IDs and matching tags?
Why bother, it's not a life!!
So if you were baking a cake and one of your beloved criminals crept into your house and took the cake from your oven half way through the cooking time that would not be a theft, right?
You can't steal what does not exist!

Ok!
So why was douglas Kennedy charged with child endangerment for wishing to take his unborn child for a walk?
You can't endanger that which is not a life!
Is it log endangerment if you take a log for a walk?

The person stealing the thing from the oven is taking what will probably be a cake and I explained what Boxer probably meant. Are we going to nit-pick when a cake is a cake? The moment one opens the oven door? The moment the timer signals the baking is complete? Or when the person removes the cake from the oven and places it on the stove top?

As she told Santorum she knew his tactic of trying to pedal backwards to conception and she wasn't having any part of it. Is something a cake when the raw ingredients are in the mixing bowl?

Re-read my posts. It seems you missed my point. It's like someone pointing to a foundation and saying that's their house. The fact is there is no house and there never was one but it's a common way of speaking. The same idea applies to "baby". There is no baby until there has been a birth but some people tend to speak as if there is.

On that note it's siesta time for me. :)
 
The person stealing the thing from the oven is taking what will probably be a cake and I explained what Boxer probably meant. Are we going to nit-pick when a cake is a cake? The moment one opens the oven door? The moment the timer signals the baking is complete? Or when the person removes the cake from the oven and places it on the stove top?

As she told Santorum she knew his tactic of trying to pedal backwards to conception and she wasn't having any part of it. Is something a cake when the raw ingredients are in the mixing bowl?

Re-read my posts. It seems you missed my point. It's like someone pointing to a foundation and saying that's their house. The fact is there is no house and there never was one but it's a common way of speaking. The same idea applies to "baby". There is no baby until there has been a birth but some people tend to speak as if there is.

On that note it's siesta time for me. :)

So you can't explain why Douglas Kennedy was charged with child endangerment for taking what boxer calls an unborn child for a walk?

How can you endanger something that dosn't exist?

When your obamacult ideas are subjected to logic you all turn silent!
Care to offer clarification or just more contradictory points?
 
So according to barbera( padded cell) boxer, I wasn't born until I was 9 months old, I was that long in hospital after I was fully separated from my mother.
Only confusing point there is why FO they insist on celebrating my birthday 9 months before I was born?

My sons birthday is 3 days before he was born?

Barbera( obamacult) boxers theories are very confusing!
 
So you can't explain why Douglas Kennedy was charged with child endangerment for taking what boxer calls an unborn child for a walk?

How can you endanger something that dosn't exist?

When your obamacult ideas are subjected to logic you all turn silent!
Care to offer clarification or just more contradictory points?

It's been explained to you. The problem is your inability to understand which is something I can't help you with.
 
So according to barbera( padded cell) boxer, I wasn't born until I was 9 months old, I was that long in hospital after I was fully separated from my mother.
Only confusing point there is why FO they insist on celebrating my birthday 9 months before I was born?

My sons birthday is 3 days before he was born?

Barbera( obamacult) boxers theories are very confusing!

I strongly recommend you seek professional help.
 
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