So Libs... What's the economic plan for $10 gal. gasoline?

Dixie said:
Exactly, and we can probably expect this through the summer. If Saudi Arabia goes up in flames, forget about it... if we can FIND gas at ANY price, we'll be lucky.

I really just wanted to know out of curiosity, what the Libs had in mind for how to recover our economy when gas goes to $10 a gallon. What I am hearing, is a bunch of the same grandiose dreams of some alternative fuel that is going to save the day, billions (or trillions) of dollars to convert the infrastructure, and apparently, we're going to have to pay for converting the poor, they can't afford to do this.... but HOW are we going to do any of this, if our economy is in the crapper, and we have no jobs or money? 20...30 years ago, maybe we could have taken action on such a plan, and by now, we wouldn't be in this predicament, but we didn't. And as nice as all of this sounds, it can't be done overnight, and it certainly can't be done if we sink into a depression.
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I know that i'm looking to find a 1,000 gallon tank I can secure in my backyard and get it filled with gas for just such an emergency.
 
1) the left needs to be inboard with temporary common sense domestic drilling.

2) The right needs to get onboard with massive government funded R & D into alternative energy.

3) Excessive use of forign oil needs to be taxed like hell so it's not beneficial to use it.

4) Public transportation must be improved and upgraded. Like Florida's bullet train.

5) Nuclear reactors should be brought onlinesafely and fast.

It has to be an all out effort!


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Saudi ain't going up in flames so don't worry about that.


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Carter made a real push for energy independence, Reagan refunded the entire plan. Now the cons are going to try to blame the Libs?


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Saudi is not trying to get us the cheapest barrels either.
Question, Name another country that excludes billions of dollars of natural resources from it's energy sector?
 
Jarod said:
1) the left needs to be inboard with temporary common sense domestic drilling.

2) The right needs to get onboard with massive government funded R & D into alternative energy.

3) Excessive use of forign oil needs to be taxed like hell so it's not beneficial to use it.

4) Public transportation must be improved and upgraded. Like Florida's bullet train.

5) Nuclear reactors should be brought onlinesafely and fast.

It has to be an all out effort!


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what is "common sense" domestic drilling seeing as how you have been mocking domestic drilling for several years now?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I know that i'm looking to find a 1,000 gallon tank I can secure in my backyard and get it filled with gas for just such an emergency.
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You can't store gas for any length of time and expect to use it later because it will lose its octane rating. You'll need to buy a diesel vehicle and store that.

The best thing to do is to set up your home to use heating oil, which is the same as diesel without the road tax. Then have it delivered in a big tank and pump out of that into your vehicle.
 
Damn Yankee said:
You can't store gas for any length of time and expect to use it later because it will lose its octane rating. You'll need to buy a diesel vehicle and store that.

The best thing to do is to set up your home to use heating oil, which is the same as diesel without the road tax. Then have it delivered in a big tank and pump out of that into your vehicle.
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if gas is over 5 or 6 a gallon, do you think i'm really worried about octane rating?
 
cawacko said:
what is "common sense" domestic drilling seeing as how you have been mocking domestic drilling for several years now?
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Those are the places where liberals and environmentalists believe it is okay to drill for oil and not harm the environment. No such places currently exist, but I think that's what jarhead is saying... liberals need to use some precious commons sense, to come up with such places... I think it's a mistake, liberals should preserve as much common sense as possible, and not be wasting it.
 
Jarod said:
Carter made a real push for energy independence, Reagan refunded the entire plan. Now the cons are going to try to blame the Libs?


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Nixon was the first to push for energy independence. Nice argument attempt though Jarod Limbaugh.
 
As painful as it would be, a summer spike in gas prices would probably not be a bad thing in the long run.

People really need to wake up on this issue - and that includes Obama. The threat of regional volatility & price spikes - as well as a threat of real shortages in the not-so-distant-future - is not going away.

We have to get domestic on energy. We can no longer put such a vital aspect of our economy in the hands of a few foreign nations, most of which are not what you would call "stable."
 
Onceler said:
As painful as it would be, a summer spike in gas prices would probably not be a bad thing in the long run.

People really need to wake up on this issue - and that includes Obama. The threat of regional volatility & price spikes - as well as a threat of real shortages in the not-so-distant-future - is not going away.

We have to get domestic on energy. We can no longer put such a vital aspect of our economy in the hands of a few foreign nations, most of which are not what you would call "stable."
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while it would be great if the price hikes 'woke up americans' to get hard on congress for energy policy reform, do you really think congress is going to care?
 
Jarod said:
1) the left needs to be inboard with temporary common sense domestic drilling.
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The left needs to get out of the way of permanent drilling anywhere we have oil in the ground that is viable to drill for.

2) The right needs to get onboard with massive government funded R & D into alternative energy.
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NO! To any extent the government is involved, it should be through incentives for private investors to do R&D into alternative energy. This is NOT the job of the government, NOT what the government is there for, and NOT something the government will EVER be able to do as cost-effectively as the private sector.

3) Excessive use of forign oil needs to be taxed like hell so it's not beneficial to use it.
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This might work if foreign oil were purchased because it is cheaper, but that's not the case. Foreign oil is purchased so supply can meet demand. We have no choice here, we depend on foreign oil. Taxing it more, will only cause our consumer prices to rise, it will not deter purchasing of foreign oil, that has to be done to meet the demand, regardless of price.

4) Public transportation must be improved and upgraded. Like Florida's bullet train.
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Again, this is a state and local issue, not something the federal government should even be involved in.

5) Nuclear reactors should be brought onlinesafely and fast.
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Amen! I just wish you had this epiphany 30 years ago!
 
SmarterThanYou said:
while it would be great if the price hikes 'woke up americans' to get hard on congress for energy policy reform, do you really think congress is going to care?
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Probably not, but if it becomes a real groundswell, it could turn into an election-defining issue, which might change things. I know that's a pretty hopeful "might," there is a possibility.

It's the inherent problem with our system; most politicians - especially Presidents - only care about implementing policy that can benefit them in the next election cycle. Decisions like energy policy overhaul go well beyond what most think their terms in office will be, so there is no benefit to them aside from legacy, which can be vague at best...
 
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