So I guess Obama/Biden were systemically racist.

Dutch Uncle said:
Correct. Obama exemplified that maxim "The road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions". It's a common Democrat failing.

I liked Obama,just like I liked Carter, but both were weak Presidents who failed Lincoln's maxim: "You can't please all the people all the time". Biden will be no different.
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Change takes money, unfortunately, and time, and unless each subsequent Congress funds the programs, lasting change won’t happen.

Historians disagree with your assessment of Obama, and Carter is even getting better grades as historians review his administration.
 
Phantasmal said:
Change takes money, unfortunately, and time, and unless each subsequent Congress funds the programs, lasting change won’t happen.

Historians disagree with your assessment of Obama, and Carter is even getting better grades as historians review his administration.
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Not all historians disagree. Agreed there are points for "niceness".

No doubt we can agree that Trump's administration will go down in history books as a low point. A point where the WH became the Swamp.
 
Irish said:
Same thing the dems did a few years ago, work to regain. The way things are going, since people hate both parties, there will be quick switches of control back and forth.

The era of 60 years of holding a chamber are over.

There are people in the party not in favor of Trump. They are called never trumpers. People like Romney.

Trump is one of the worst candidates to run for Pres in American history. The only reason he won, won because he went against THEE worst candidate in American history in 2016.

Even a senile, pedophile old racist, is more appealing than Trump. Apparently.
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Trump's huge mistake was not bringing the nation back together again after his win, throwing chunks of red meat to his base, and basically shoving a sharp stick in the eye of those who didn't vote for him, making enemies with Shumer and Pelosi when he could have got a lot accomplished with their help. The Crime bill was proof that the Democrats wanted to work with Donald Trump. He could have easily fixed Obamacare (something the Republicans want too now), and passed an immigration Bill (That everyone wants) too had he not alienated the Democrats with his focus on destroying Obama's legacy and attacking the Free Press making them enemies as well.

Basically Trump caused every one of his own problems by trying to fight, what seemed like the entire world- BUT RUSSIA, TURKEY, and N. Korea! And so now he will be a one-term president. And it's not going to look pretty for him in the history books. And now the Senate is up for grabs and already starting to tilt in the direction of Democrat Control according to all the polls

You hit the nail on the head with Romney. It seems he is a potential president who can bring people together. And I know he is an honest man and with good intentions. He will be the Republican's best bet in 2024. He will be running against Biden's choice for VP.

I think after Trump has spiraled down crashed and burned, I look for Romney to have a larger role in the Senate and the Republicans will start to come back to him as they abandon Trump and just looking ahead at 2024.

But for Trump, turn out the lights, as his playhouse is about to come down hard.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Trump's huge mistake was not bringing the nation back together again after his win, throwing chunks of red meat to his base, and basically shoving a sharp stick in the eye of those who didn't vote for him, making enemies with Shumer and Pelosi when he could have got a lot accomplished with their help. The Crime bill was proof that the Democrats wanted to work with Donald Trump. He could have easily fixed Obamacare (something the Republicans want too now), and passed an immigration Bill (That everyone wants) too had he not alienated the Democrats with his focus on destroying Obama's legacy and attacking the Free Press making them enemies as well.

Basically Trump caused every one of his own problems by trying to fight, what seemed like the entire world- BUT RUSSIA, TURKEY, and N. Korea! And so now he will be a one-term president. And it's not going to look pretty for him in the history books. And now the Senate is up for grabs and already starting to tilt in the direction of Democrat Control according to all the polls

You hit the nail on the head with Romney. It seems he is a potential president who can bring people together. And I know he is an honest man and with good intentions. He will be the Republican's best bet in 2024. He will be running against Biden's choice for VP.

I think after Trump has spiraled down crashed and burned, I look for Romney to have a larger role in the Senate and the Republicans will start to come back to him as they abandon Trump and just looking ahead at 2024.

But for Trump, turn out the lights, as his playhouse is about to come down hard.
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That is prob the saddest part-first president in our history that not only did not try to unite the country, he tried his damnedest to try & further divide it............ SHAME!!!

Perhaps that makes xi & putin happy .... :dunno:
 
Irish said:
What are you talking about tard? If blacks had to fuck Irish women, that means black women are ugly. You are racist for saying that.
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lol, no just educating you about factual history. History can be disturbing especially when at one time black slaves were considered more valuable than Irish slaves. Oh and I have Irish blood in me and funny enough I'm not nearly as
fragile as you are about it. History has some racist tendencies don it? lol. Idiot.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Trump's huge mistake was not bringing the nation back together again after his win, throwing chunks of red meat to his base, and basically shoving a sharp stick in the eye of those who didn't vote for him, making enemies with Shumer and Pelosi when he could have got a lot accomplished with their help. The Crime bill was proof that the Democrats wanted to work with Donald Trump. He could have easily fixed Obamacare (something the Republicans want too now), and passed an immigration Bill (That everyone wants) too had he not alienated the Democrats with his focus on destroying Obama's legacy and attacking the Free Press making them enemies as well.

Basically Trump caused every one of his own problems by trying to fight, what seemed like the entire world- BUT RUSSIA, TURKEY, and N. Korea! And so now he will be a one-term president. And it's not going to look pretty for him in the history books. And now the Senate is up for grabs and already starting to tilt in the direction of Democrat Control according to all the polls

You hit the nail on the head with Romney. It seems he is a potential president who can bring people together. And I know he is an honest man and with good intentions. He will be the Republican's best bet in 2024. He will be running against Biden's choice for VP.

I think after Trump has spiraled down crashed and burned, I look for Romney to have a larger role in the Senate and the Republicans will start to come back to him as they abandon Trump and just looking ahead at 2024.

But for Trump, turn out the lights, as his playhouse is about to come down hard.
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He made too many enemies that's for sure. Although I was saying the same thing about Obama in 2012. He didn't unite us, and kept attacking Republicans throughout 2012.

Seems to be the new playbook I guess.

Not sure Romney will be any good in 2024. You claim to like him now, but you all will say he is a crazy Mormon, who hates dogs, killed a lady that worked for him, and held gays down and cut their hair in highschool.

A lot of moderate Republicans are "loved" by liberals until they run.
 
crowonapost said:
lol, no just educating you about factual history. History can be disturbing especially when at one time black slaves were considered more valuable than Irish slaves. Oh and I have Irish blood in me and funny enough I'm not nearly as
fragile as you are about it. History has some racist tendencies don it? lol. Idiot.
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Get fucked, cuck.
 
crowonapost said:
lol, no just educating you about factual history. History can be disturbing especially when at one time black slaves were considered more valuable than Irish slaves. Oh and I have Irish blood in me and funny enough I'm not nearly as
fragile as you are about it. History has some racist tendencies don it? lol. Idiot.
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America never had Irish slaves.
 
Irish said:
You are the self admitted cuck. Sorry you let people do that do you.
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'Cuck', your need to feel fucked while watching because you are failure in life, I get it, thank you for stating it again, mental slave. It is what you do, get 'cucked' every day by the oligarch class. I would feel bad but you have no desire to bring compassion for others. Jest superficial contempt, like most of your posts, cuck-walk. Ass must feel sore at this point while getting the Corps whore so far up your easily compliant manipulated ass.
 
crowonapost said:
'Cuck', your need to feel fucked while watching because you are failure in life, I get it, thank you for stating it again, mental slave. It is what you do, get 'cucked' every day by the oligarch class. I would feel bad but you have no desire to bring compassion for others. Jest superficial contempt, like most of your posts, cuck-walk. Ass must feel sore at this point while getting the Corps whore so far up your easily compliant manipulated ass.
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Whatever you say cuck.
 
Triplelefthook said:
Not really. You can whip up stats that say he broke 2% for short periods. The average was 2%.
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The average was 2% for Obama. We were happy to get that after the Great Recession. When it continued at the same average during the beginning of trump, we were still happy. Then trump started giving out huge stimuluses and still getting 2%, and we got less happy. Now 2% is just a distant memory, and we are a lot less happy.

Right now, a positive average growth rate is completely impossible for trump's first term. We have to ask whether we reelect trump, or go with a new person to fix trump's complete failure. But make no mistake, it is a complete failure.
 
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