Snowden STILL a hero

Jarod said:
Cheney calls him a tratior.


Thoughts?
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It's important to bear in mind I'm being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead.


Leaving the US was an incredible risk, as NSA employees must declare their foreign travel 30 days in advance and are monitored. There was a distinct possibility I would be interdicted en route, so I had to travel with no advance booking to a country with the cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained. Hong Kong provided that. Iceland could be pushed harder, quicker, before the public could have a chance to make their feelings known, and I would not put that past the current US administration.
 
And still, not a single conservative is willing to acknowledge that the Bush Administration was listening in to Americans phone conversations, while the Obama Administration was NOT.
 
Jarod said:
And still, not a single conservative is willing to acknowledge that the Bush Administration was listening in to Americans phone conversations, while the Obama Administration was NOT.
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they live in the bubble and only talk to each other and listen to the propaganda of their talk shows. they love any conspiracy blamed on obama. that is not to say that obama is faultless, but then who is.
 
Jarod said:
. It's true.., what in your warped little pea brain is untrue about it?
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the implication that there is something illegal about listening to a conversation to an overseas phone that is being legally wiretapped.......did you ever hear the story about the person who was so perceptive that a little pea sized untruth was enough to be noticed through all the attempts to hide it?......you can through all the mattresses you want on it, the pea you can't hide is that there wasn't any illegal wiretapping going on......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the implication that there is something illegal about listening to a conversation to an overseas phone that is being legally wiretapped.......did you ever hear the story about the person who was so perceptive that a little pea sized untruth was enough to be noticed through all the attempts to hide it?......you can through all the mattresses you want on it, the pea you can't hide is that there wasn't any illegal wiretapping going on......
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So, let me ask you... without the implication you imagined.. do you admit its true that the Obama Administration did not listen in on American's phone conversations while the Bush Administration LEGALLY did?

I'm not implying that its illegal, I am stating that they went significantly further than what the Obama Administration has been accused of doing. Now you are pretending that what I said was untrue, because you believe I'm implying that it was illegal?

I wrote... "And still, not a single conservative is willing to acknowledge that the Bush Administration was listening in to Americans phone conversations, while the Obama Administration was NOT."

Please tell me where the implication is there?
 
Dungheap said:
LOL. You can lead a horse to water . . .
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I love to illustrate to all readers how silly they are when they refuse to admit the truth. Damo disappeared, Supercandy is afraid to discuss it anymore, and This nitwit PMP... just continues to pretend to not understand.
 
We have to decide why terrorism is a new threat. There has always been terrorism.

We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world.

We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.

The only thing I can do is sit here and hope the Hong Kong government does not deport me.
 
Edward Snowden said:
We have to decide why terrorism is a new threat. There has always been terrorism.

We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world.

We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.

The only thing I can do is sit here and hope the Hong Kong government does not deport me.
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or you can head to Equidor!
 
The internet is on principle a system that you reveal yourself to in order to fully enjoy, which differentiates it from, say, a music player.

It is a TV that watches you. The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate.
 
PMP doesn't think it is illegal for the United States government to eavesdrop on communications into and out of the United States without a warrant so long as the President says that the person on the other end has ties to terrorist organizations. He's completely wrong, but that's what he thinks.

He also seems to think that the United States government doesn't do it's eavesdropping in the United States for some reason that he hasn't ever explained.
 
Dungheap said:
PMP doesn't think it is illegal for the United States government to eavesdrop on communications into and out of the United States without a warrant so long as the President says that the person on the other end has ties to terrorist organizations. He's completely wrong, but that's what he thinks.

He also seems to think that the United States government doesn't do it's eavesdropping in the United States for some reason that he hasn't ever explained.
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It seems to me that he makes up a lot of shit.
 
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