Site Cleared Of Homes By Eminent Domain Remains Empty Eight Years Later (part II)

Ghost of Grind said:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/soci...minent-domain-remains-empty-eight-years-later
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I agree that Kelo v. New London was a sucky decision but ftr, Kelo's house wasn't razed (After losing the case, Kelo’s home was bulldozed along with others.), it was moved.

Arlington, Va. — Susette Kelo’s little pink cottage — the home that was the subject of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case and a national symbol of the fight against eminent domain abuse — will be spared from the wrecking ball. In a compromise put forward by Kelo and accepted today by the City of New London, the home will be saved and moved to another location, perhaps close to where it originally stood over a century ago, on Pequot Avenue in New London. The U.S. Supreme Court in Kelo v. New London gutted federal constitutional protections against eminent domain abuse but, in so doing, sparked a national rebellion against these practices.

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Rune said:
It was a minority neighborhood, retard. That's why the city did it in the first place. Furthermopre, a conservative; Souter wrote the opinion.
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You really are too stupid for prime time dunce. Irony; a retard like you calling others retards while making painfully stupid claims like this.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
dude, you just doubled down on abject idiocy......lets just all agree you fucked up with your throw away comment and got caught......then you can go on with life a little bit less cocky but a lot less humiliated........
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You're only half right and that for the wrong reasons. In other words, like almost everyone here, you are mostly full of shit, too! What a surprise. The woman whose name the case bore was a minority because for legal purposes, which are all that count in the current conversation, women are considered minorities. But this was not a minority neighborhood because the other houses weren't owned by single women exclusively. Some of the houses were owned by married couples. But you are still full of shit for all the reason cited in my response to Rune.
 
Taft2016 said:
Rune is wrong.
The sky is blue.
And Limburger cheese still stinks.

All is right with the universe.
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In your attempt to be cute, you conveniently forgot the part about you being the biggest piece of shit on this or any other board.

It's too bad with all the shit you wrote about Moses you didn't remember that it was a liberal decision and that the conservatives on the Court--those same people who you generally side with on every other issue--voted as a block against this liberal decision that you are here championing. You also conveniently forgot to mention that many of the landscape that Moses took were through Black neighborhoods because the land was cheaper. You also failed to mention that one of the things about the Long Island Expressway was the great innovation of Moses to build overpasses too low for city and other buses to negotiate in order to help segregate the beaches on Long Island because it was believed that Black people would flock out on the buses if they could. If you actually read Caro you know this because he goes into great detail about the role racism played in all Moses's decisions.

Further, your memory isn't worth shit or you would have known that Rune was wrong and said something about it, but you didn't! So get the fuck off of my coattails you slimy slavery supporting racist and sexist bastard and crawl back under that foul smelling rock that protects you from the elements most of the time, because no matter what my problems with Rune are, they pale completely in comparison to the way I feel about your ignorant, cant filled and cantankerous ass! In short, you were just as wrong as he was, as were the rest of the fucking hoosiers on this thread. So fuck yourself, because you didn't know it either! And you will stink long after every other piece of shit has lost its smell you giant asshole.
 
Taft2016 said:
That's a bit over-generalized, and eminent domain was a precedent set long before this century.,

If you read Robert Caro's Pulitzer Prize winning biography of Robert Moses, "The Powerbroker," you can see how without eminent domain, current New York City would be a planning nightmare. Basically every highway,every bridge, and every park required it. The highways stretching out onto Long Island allowed the suburbs to grow, but originally needed eminent domain to run through farmlands.

You name roads and bridges like the following to any New Yorker (all built by Moses and eminent domain) and ask them to imagine what NY would be like without them:

FDR Drive, Cross Bronx Expressway, Tri-Borough Bridge, Grand Central Parkway, Long Island Expressway, Throgs Neck Bridge, Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, Southern State Parkway, Northern State Parkway, Verranzano Bridge, Belt Parkway, Whitestone Bridge, Van Wyck Expressway, Henry Hudson Parkway, Major Deegan Expressway, Wantagh Parkway, Meadowbrook Parkway, Sunken Meadow Parkway, etc....

Essentially, the entire super-structure of NYC and surrounding areas would not exist were it not for eminent domain.
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My problem with the idea of eminent domain, is that they want to pay what the "current market" is and instead should be paying what the land will be worth.
 
Rune said:
It was a minority neighborhood, retard. That's why the city did it in the first place. Furthermopre, a conservative; Souter wrote the opinion.
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Souter did start out as a solid and reliable conservative in his first few years in the SC but he was going bonkers in later years....the late 1990s, Souter began to align himself more with Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg on rulings, although as of 1995, he sided on more occasions with the more liberaljustice, John Paul Stevens, than either Breyer or Ginsburg, both Clinton appointees......obvious mental problems siding with the liberal nitwits more and more....
 
Dantès said:
Sorry to break it to you, but you're just plain wrong! Souter didn't write shit! He didn't even write a concurring opinion. The opinion was written by Justice Stevens. Kennedy wrote a concurring opinion. Justice Souter was not a conservative in the mold of Thomas or Scalia. He was appointed by Bush I and by most accounts moderated during his tenure on the court. He was part of the mostly "liberal majority" that decided Kelo v. New London (2005) though. The judges who voted for this were mostly "liberal" whatever the hell that means on the U.S. Supreme Court. With your extensive knowledge of so many things I would think you would know all this. More importantly though, none of the other idiots here left or right knew enough to correct your mistake, including your latest BFF, the brilliant freedom fighter SmarterThanYou!

Here's the pertinent information--the facts mac--in the case that no one here seems capable or even interested in checking, and one of the reasons I packed out, the ignorance here is debilitating:

"On June 23, 2005, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4 decision, ruled in favor of the City of New London. Justice Stevens wrote the majority opinion, joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Justice Kennedy wrote a concurring opinion setting out a more detailed standard for judicial review of economic development takings than that found in Stevens's majority opinion. In so doing, Justice Kennedy contributed to the Court's trend of turning minimum scrutiny—the idea that government policy need only bear a rational relation to a legitimate government purpose—into a fact-based test."

The conservatives at that time: O'Connor, Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas, were the 4 who voted against the decision. This shit isn't rocket science.

Here's everything you need to know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London
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You prove again how a typical low information like Rune thinks....very little to not at all.....
 
Dantès said:
Sorry to break it to you, but you're just plain wrong! Souter didn't write shit! He didn't even write a concurring opinion. The opinion was written by Justice Stevens. Kennedy wrote a concurring opinion. Justice Souter was not a conservative in the mold of Thomas or Scalia. He was appointed by Bush I and by most accounts moderated during his tenure on the court. He was part of the mostly "liberal majority" that decided Kelo v. New London (2005) though. The judges who voted for this were mostly "liberal" whatever the hell that means on the U.S. Supreme Court. With your extensive knowledge of so many things I would think you would know all this. More importantly though, none of the other idiots here left or right knew enough to correct your mistake, including your latest BFF, the brilliant freedom fighter SmarterThanYou!

Here's the pertinent information--the facts mac--in the case that no one here seems capable or even interested in checking, and one of the reasons I packed out, the ignorance here is debilitating:

"On June 23, 2005, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4 decision, ruled in favor of the City of New London. Justice Stevens wrote the majority opinion, joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Justice Kennedy wrote a concurring opinion setting out a more detailed standard for judicial review of economic development takings than that found in Stevens's majority opinion. In so doing, Justice Kennedy contributed to the Court's trend of turning minimum scrutiny—the idea that government policy need only bear a rational relation to a legitimate government purpose—into a fact-based test."

The conservatives at that time: O'Connor, Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas, were the 4 who voted against the decision. This shit isn't rocket science.

Here's everything you need to know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

And for all the rest of you fucking losers on this thread. Pull your collective heads out of your asses. I'm supposed to be the ignorant liberal here. What a fucking bunch of morons.

And for the record, I don't own any boats, houses, businesses nor do I even believe in or fetishize the concept of private property.
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Really? A liberal from New Hampshire and appointed by Bush specifically because his rulings in general made his ideology difficult to determine (unlike Bork)?

If you think you just proved anything, you are wrong.

By the way, SMY and I disagree about a lot of things, but we agree on some, and there is nothing new about that.
 
NOVA said:
Souter did start out as a solid and reliable conservative in his first few years in the SC but he was going bonkers in later years....the late 1990s, Souter began to align himself more with Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg on rulings, although as of 1995, he sided on more occasions with the more liberaljustice, John Paul Stevens, than either Breyer or Ginsburg, both Clinton appointees......obvious mental problems siding with the liberal nitwits more and more....
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Yes, Bravo, most people become more liberal as they age and or gain wisdom. He was still a conservative, just not right enough for you, or ILA or Dantes.
 
Truth Detector said:
You really are too stupid for prime time dunce. Irony; a retard like you calling others retards while making painfully stupid claims like this.
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Moron; ever been to New London? Didn't think so. I have been there an average of 25 times a year since 2010.
 
Dantès said:
In your attempt to be cute, you conveniently forgot the part about you being the biggest piece of shit on this or any other board.
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Wasn't an attempt to be cute, but rather historically factual. Something you rarely bother with.

You also conveniently forgot to mention that many of the landscape that Moses took were through Black neighborhoods because the land was cheaper.
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Really? Name one. None come to mind. Some of them are black neighborhoods now, but if you bother to read the Caro book you'd know they weren't then. The neighborhood the Cross Bronx went through was largely Jewish (so you don't care). The neighborhood the BQE went through was Jewish (again, you don't care) and Scandinavian.

You also failed to mention that one of the things about the Long Island Expressway was the great innovation of Moses to build overpasses too low for city and other buses to negotiate in order to help segregate the beaches on Long Island because it was believed that Black people would flock out on the buses if they could. If you actually read Caro you know this because he goes into great detail about the role racism played in all Moses's decisions.
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If you actually knew anything, you'd know that the overpasses on the Long Island Expressway can easily accommodate buses, trucks, and even tractor trailers. It is the overpasses on the state parkways that these allegations are made about. But Moses wasn't racist so much as he was bourgeois, and that was from Caro.

Or are you arguing that buses carrying white people could somehow magically pass beneath the overpasses?

Moses was also Jewish, which is obviously why you hate him.
 
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Rune said:
It was a minority neighborhood, retard. That's why the city did it in the first place. Furthermopre, a conservative; Souter wrote the opinion.
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No it wasn't and that's not why the city did it in the first place. The neighborhood was a solidly middle class neighborhood that had the unfortunate luck to have a nice view. Developers convinced the city managers of New London that they could generate lots of jobs and revenue for the community if they confiscated the property from home owners who either did not want to sell or wanted market value for their property.

Kelo was a disgusting decision but it was not focused on a minority neighborhood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London
 
Rune said:
Yes, Bravo, most people become more liberal as they age and or gain wisdom. He was still a conservative, just not right enough for you, or ILA or Dantes.
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Dantès said:
You're only half right and that for the wrong reasons. In other words, like almost everyone here, you are mostly full of shit, too! What a surprise. The woman whose name the case bore was a minority because for legal purposes, which are all that count in the current conversation, women are considered minorities. But this was not a minority neighborhood because the other houses weren't owned by single women exclusively. Some of the houses were owned by married couples. But you are still full of shit for all the reason cited in my response to Rune.
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lol......hate to break it to you Bingo, but at least half the people on this planet are women....they may be a protected class, but they are certainly not a minority, and also certainly not the minority Ruuunie was thinking of when he fucked up......
 
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