Simema leaves Democratic party

evince said:
I don’t think she will run local as a Dem again

I thought you were suggesting she might do a 2024 president bid
Both trump and Palin showed how that’s a cash cow
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Oh no. I'm suggesting that she's going to cash in now and leave Congress after January 2025.

Sure, she might run to raise money, but she won't win as an Independent.
 
anonymoose said:
Wow.
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uh huh.
this is why you cant get caught up in TDS. Im done with Trump - his ego destroys everything he touches
but his policies are good, so Im stiil good with American First,

Dems put in Fetterman -who is NOT just "auditory impaired" he's cognitive difficulties are more then that
+ really dumb simplistic thinking like "evil corps"

I hate to say it, but it's pure partisan warfare in DC, and the VOTES count - Trump held down the vote
but the candidates were good.

McConnell is the real problem going forward, he backed Murk
 
dukkha said:
no she wasnt a nut..im surprised at you.
I saw her interviewed a few ties and she promised to represent Repub interets UNLIKE Murk.
Murkowski voted with Biden 67% of the time...do some research


Murk voted against kavanaugh out of committee....what the hell are you smoking?
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She consistently voted against obamacare.
She consistently votes for developing AK resource development.
Those two were/are the most important votes for me.
As far as I was concerned she crossed my red line on Kav. I know perfectly well about her paired vote with Daines on Kavanaugh. Basically a “no” on Kav. and for the wrong reason.
But then he and Amy et al did the unthinkable and gave dims ammunition for the midterms.
So unwittingly, she accidentally got it right.
Anyway, my conscience is clear. I voted for Buzz Kelly in that race. :smile:
 
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Flash said:
The Senate goes back to 50-50 with an even number of Dems and Reps on every committee if they follow the same sharing arrangement they had in 2000 and 2018.
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That's not correct

There was never 50 Democrats to begin with in the 2019-22 Senate session.

There was 49 and one independent who caucused with them.

Sinema has said she will caucus with the Dems.

That still gives the Dems still a 51 seat Parliamentary majority, with 49 Dems, two independents who caucus with Dems, and therefore the power to have parliamentary voting majorities on all Senate committees.

A 51 seat Parliamentary majority negates any necessity of power sharing agreements
 
anonymoose said:
She consistently voted against obamacare.
She consistently votes for developing AK resource development.
Those two were/are the most important votes for me.
As far as I was concerned she crossed my red line on Kav. I know perfectly well about her paired vote with Daine’s on Kavanaugh. Basically a “no” on Kav.
But then he and Amy et al did the unthinkable and gave dims ammunition for the midterms.
So unwittingly she accidentally got it right.
Anyway, my conscience is clear. I voted for Buzz Kelly in that race. :smile:
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not sure what you are saying there. is "resource development" a bad thing? do you mean oil?

Hey I thought getting rid of Roe was a bad idea. It just made abortion more complicated and in truth there are a few places where women might be denied access. SCOTUS was correct that it had no underpinning
(implied powers by definition do not), but teh cure of overt turning roe was worse then the disease.

There's an old allegory about karma.. you can't fix it, you just have to live with it, and improve it going forward.
Much the same about Roe. It should have been left and let the courts decide on reasonable practices, not political states,,

anyway 67% voting with Biden "trumps" all that .nothing else come close to importance
 
dukkha said:
not sure what you are saying there. is "resource development" a bad thing? do you mean oil?

Hey I thought getting rid of Roe was a bad idea. It just made abortion more complicated and in truth there are a few places where women might be denied access. SCOTUS was correct that it had no underpinning
(implied powers by definition do not), but teh cure of overt turning roe was worse then the disease.

There's an old allegory about karma.. you can't fix it, you just have to live with it, and improve it going forward.
Much the same about Roe. It should have been left and let the courts decide on reasonable practices, not political states,,

anyway 67% voting with Biden "trumps" all that .nothing else come close to importance
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Hold on, because you said you got an unsolicited mail ballot in 2020, so did you also get one in 2022? Or were you lying about that?
 
evince said:
You don’t believe in Americans working together to run this nation for the people?



Outline exactly how elections would work if no parties existed



It’s an dupes fake dream
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You're right, evince. I don't believe in Americans working together to run this nation for the people. Fuck, I forgot during my absence from JPP exactly how stupid you are.

You want elections with no parties? Oh, do tell us more. Just don't ask me to answer a question that you asked that has no relation to anything anyone said. That is just about every debate fallacy you can commit.
 
anonymoose said:
Alaska Delegation, Governor Rebuke Biden Administration For Cancelling Lawful ANWR Leases
https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/pr...inistration-for-cancelling-lawful-anwr-leases
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thats nice. but it's basically an XO. 6 years of more voting with majority Dem...that's all; that matters.. sorry to say it but Dems dont break party line votes..time for Repubs to quit this
And that goes for teh Freedom caucus in the House as well

sad it's come to this, but the USA has to stop this Prog shit. votes are all that matter now
 
dukkha said:
thats nice. but it's basically an XO. 6 years of more voting with majority Dem...that's all; that matters.. sorry to say it but Dems dont break party line votes..time for Repubs to quit this
And that goes for teh Freedom caucus in the House as well

sad it's come to this, but the USA has to stop this Prog shit. votes are all that matter now
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How come you didn't get a fake unsolicited mail in ballot this year?

Is it because you didn't get one in 2020 and didn't want me to catch you lying again?
 
Diesel said:
You're right, evince. I don't believe in Americans working together to run this nation for the people. Fuck, I forgot during my absence from JPP exactly how stupid you are.

You want elections with no parties? Oh, do tell us more. Just don't ask me to answer a question that you asked that has no relation to anything anyone said. That is just about every debate fallacy you can commit.
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What the fuck are you babbling about



Read the thread


People were indeed trashing our party system
 
evince said:
IF


IF



She shat on the Democrats who voted for her asshole


They won’t be happy



She won’t get elected again



So she is looking for paychecks on her way out



You believing every person in politics is a criminal makes you an idiot
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She doesn't have to vote with the Democrats whether or not she is a Democrat and news flash, shit for brains, she regularly didn't vote with the Democrats when she was a Democrat.

I never said every person in politics is a criminal. Listen, bitch, this is why no one takes you seriously. You splash around in the kiddie pool and drag straw men and red herrings out of your ass like you're liquidating the inventory. You are neither a serious nor an honest nor a smart person. I'm just trying to explain (to other people who might be able to understand it) that Sinema leaving the Democratic party is not the end of their world and why your relentless hatred for Bernie Sanders is misplaced.
 
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