Shut it down? Yea, or nay?
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Republican negotiators walked away from talks over the weekend to reach a deal on a top-line number on how much the federal government should spend for the rest of the 2025 fiscal year, which runs through Sept. 30.
Democrats had said that number is irrelevant if Trump refuses to spend the money in accordance with the law — or if he empowers billionaire Elon Musk and his U.S. DOGE Service to terminate federal contracts and lay off tens of thousands of federal workers without regard to Congress’s wishes.
Trump and advisers including budget chief Russell Vought have argued that the president has the power to withhold money that Congress orders spent, arguing that a post-Watergate law that limits that power is unconstitutional.
Musk’s DOGE team has been unilaterally terminating contracts and pushing to shed federal staff.
Democrats had said that number is irrelevant if Trump refuses to spend the money in accordance with the law — or if he empowers billionaire Elon Musk and his U.S. DOGE Service to terminate federal contracts and lay off tens of thousands of federal workers without regard to Congress’s wishes.
Trump and advisers including budget chief Russell Vought have argued that the president has the power to withhold money that Congress orders spent, arguing that a post-Watergate law that limits that power is unconstitutional.
Musk’s DOGE team has been unilaterally terminating contracts and pushing to shed federal staff.
Yakuda
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Shut it down. The govt is a fat sow like Hilary that is sucking the life blood out of a great country.
Government shutdown looms as Trump tries to assert new spending powers
Funding will expire in less than two weeks if lawmakers don’t extend the deadline.
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Yakuda
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Already did
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House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) told reporters last week that Democrats’ demands were a “gross separation of powers violation and a terrible precedent for Congress to engage in.”
“That’s a non starter for us, and the Democrats know that, so it looks like they’re in a posture right now where they’re making individual appropriations bills almost impossible,” Johnson said. “I’m really hopeful that they’ll back off those outrageous demands because it’s unprecedented and I think probably unconstitutional, and it’s not anything we’ll be a part of.”
House Appropriations Committee Chairman Tom Cole (R-Oklahoma) put it more diplomatically.
“As I remind my Democrat friends,” he said, “a Republican Senate and Republican House aren’t going to limit the Republican president, particularly a president that has to sign the bill.”
“That’s a non starter for us, and the Democrats know that, so it looks like they’re in a posture right now where they’re making individual appropriations bills almost impossible,” Johnson said. “I’m really hopeful that they’ll back off those outrageous demands because it’s unprecedented and I think probably unconstitutional, and it’s not anything we’ll be a part of.”
House Appropriations Committee Chairman Tom Cole (R-Oklahoma) put it more diplomatically.
“As I remind my Democrat friends,” he said, “a Republican Senate and Republican House aren’t going to limit the Republican president, particularly a president that has to sign the bill.”
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Yakuda
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I thought I did. Vote often that's what I always say.