Should we revoke the Visas,,,,

[FastLane]

In Gaza, mounting evidence of famine and widespread starvation

“The worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in Gaza,” UN-backed food security experts said on Tuesday, in a call to action amid unrelenting conflict, mass displacement and the near-total collapse of essential services in the war-battered enclave.

news.un.org

So is this old lady lying?

Hamas shooting at civilian while Hamas loots aid

This guy says the problem is largely because PALESTINIANS are looting and resealing on the black market and Hamas are stealing the food for themselves. He pointed out that Hamas appears well nourished. He said Hamas is not worried about the people Hamas wants international pressure to bring an end to the war. Hamas tinks if the population starves there will be pressure on Israel.

Israel is shipping the aid in and Hamas is using starvation as a weapon.

The Latest on Humanitarian Aid in Gaza​

• Humanitarian Pauses & Aid Corridors: Israel continues daily 10-hour humanitarian pauses in Gaza City, Deir al-Balah, and Al-Mawasi (10 a.m.–8 p.m.), alongside secure corridors for aid convoys operating from 6 a.m.–11 p.m. These measures improve logistics and reflect Israel’s commitment to coordinated humanitarian efforts.
• World Food Programme Meeting: Prime Minister Netanyahu met UN World Food Programme chief Cindy McCain in Jerusalem Thursday to discuss expanding humanitarian aid to Gaza, agreeing to “redouble efforts to expedite and sustain the entry of humanitarian goods” and ensure aid reaches “the most vulnerable people where they are.”
• Aid Deliveries: Since May 2025, over 10,000 aid trucks have entered Gaza, with approximately 80% carrying food, alongside 5,000 tons of baby food and more than 2,500 tons of medical supplies. Airdrops by 12 countries have delivered more than 2,300 food packages, while distribution sites continue to serve over 2.2 million weekly food packages to families.
• Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF): The U.S.-Israel-backed GHF says it's adding two new sites in southern Gaza and announced plans to expand to 16 sites, aiming to reduce dangerous travel and overcrowding at existing centers. The GHF operates under Israeli oversight to ensure aid reaches civilians, though some international organizations have raised concerns about operational scale and safety at distribution points.
• Private Merchant Goods Entry: Israel’s cabinet approved a mechanism allowing controlled entry of goods via private merchants, supervised by COGAT, diversifying and increasing the flow of essential items such as food, baby supplies, and hygiene products.
• Water Infrastructure: The UAE is constructing a nearly 7 km desalination pipeline from Egypt to Gaza’s Al-Mawasi region, expected to supply water to roughly 600,000 residents. Equipment has moved through Kerem Shalom, and construction is underway.

Here is a link to a video of Hamas seizing food shipments.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937967384515551505

View: https://x.com/naftalibennett/status/1937967384515551505



Israel knows that Palestinians starving will cause increased World pressure on Israel so it is NOT in Israel's interest to let the Palestinians starve. Hamas knows Palestinians starving will increase World pressure on Israel so it is in the interest of Hamas that Palestinians starve. Hamas fighters are well nourished and are not starving. Food is being shipped into Gaza and most of it is being looted by armed Palestinians and resold on the black market or taken by Hamas. At some point this is Palestinians fault not Israel. And remember Hamas started this war and Hamas has rejected every peace agreement so far. Hamas could end this war tomorrow if it wanted to.

You claims of Genocide are EXACTLY what Hamas wants and you are only prolonging this war.

 

[Phantasmal]

Yes, Hamas is evil, but that does not absolve what Netenyahu is doing to Gaza.

 

[FastLane]

Please don't try to tell me what I really think, or that I'm not being honest. I get enough of that with Damo. Sorry about your mom, Alzheimers is a devastating disease.

I read all of Biden's medical reports and they were lengthy, not one page notes like trump's. I believe his doctors, just like you believe trump's doctors. Biden had and has an actual vocabulary and a decent memory. He's not searching for words, going off track or making up words (covfefe) like trump. When trump goes off on people, as he does every single day, that tells me his reasoning power is fading so he defaults to the simple, nasty words he knew as a school kid. Just look at videos of him from the past. He was a smooth talker, unlike now. Plus, trump is much, much angrier than he was before, and that's a sign of dementia. He constantly makes up reasons to justify his screwy behaviour and bumbling. He blames other people for his problems because he's broken. His family and associates are covering for him and Y O U know it.

Christie you have been watching too much CNN or MSNBS

This is what a DEMOCRAT quadruple Board Certified Neurologist says.

July 2023 and March 2024.
Christie we aren't talking about Trump we are talking about your inability to see Biden's steep cognitive decline. I still don't think you are being honest with us or yourself. Lots of Democrats admit Biden is in steep cognitive decline. As far as his doctor reports the White House doctor is in business with the Biden family and is conflicted. He even recently took the 5th when asked about Biden's cognitive decline. I want to hear from the Parkinson's specialist that visited the White House once in 2022 and 8 times between July 2023 and March 2024.


The VP debates in 2012

The Presidential debate 2024

Do you notice any difference? Be honest with yourself Christie.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOfiPyY87I

 

[FastLane]

Yes, Hamas is evil, but that does not absolve what Netenyahu is doing to Gaza.

The question is is Israel trying to feed people in Gaza or starve them? I think the evidence shows hundreds of thousands of tons of food and supplies being shipped into Gaza and a lot of it is getting looted by Palestinians who are Hamas or a thieves that resell it on the black market. Hamas benefits from YOU screaming genocide, You are helping HAMAS which you admit are evil when you scream genocide and point at Israel. That is exactly what Hamas wants.

 

[Phantasmal]

The question is is Israel trying to feed people in Gaza or starve them? I think the evidence shows hundreds of thousands of tons of food and supplies being shipped into Gaza and a lot of it is getting looted by Palestinians who are Hamas or a thieves that resell it on the black market. Hamas benefits from YOU screaming genocide, You are helping HAMAS which you admit are evil when you scream genocide and point at Israel. That is exactly what Hamas wants.

Starve them. Read the articles I posted.

 

[FastLane]

Starve them. Read the articles I posted.

Look at the food being shipped INTO GAZA. Do you think that is an effort to starve people. The articles that you have posted come from highly biased sources. I trust the old Palestinian woman that said Hamas was stealing the aid. She has no political agenda and no reason to lie. In facts Hamas might even hurt her or kill her for speaking out yet she spoke the truth anyway. You keep up with your narrative Hamas is pleased with you.

 

[Into the Night]

However their right to free speech was.

What 'right to free speech'??

You are cripple mentally if you think it was the VISA that was the right that was violated.

A Visa is not a right. Free speech is not a right either. There are consequences for what you say, sometimes legal ones.

They get to have opinions different from yours,

Sure, but they don't get to riot and conduct acts against the United States.

even if they are here on a VISA.

They won't be for long! The Visas as getting canceled!

What they cannot do is incite violence or participate in crimes.

This is what they've been doing.

The revocation of a VISA cannot be because they disagree with the current Administration.

Yes it can.

Seriously, stop being deliberately obtuse.

No, I'm not. Visas can be cancelled for a wide variety of reasons, including supporting terrorism or terrorist nations.

 

[Into the Night]

Seriously I heard Rubio say he can revoke a visa for ANY REASON.

This is basically true.

There are also given reasons a consular officer may revoke a visa, including DUI, any sort of criminal activity, supporting terrorists or terrorist nations or groups (yup...that includes waving flags of such groups or nations!).

It is up to him to decide what is sufficient cause. There is no list of what just cause is, So ANY REASON. Can you show me in the constitution where it says the are certain reasons that the SOS can't revoke a visa for?

There are no limitations, and the Constitution doesn't even describe Visas anywhere. They are thus issued literally at the whim of the government and be revoked just as whimsically. There ARE regulations passed by Congress that offers some guidance for consular officers though. The President can revoke any visa he wishes for ANY REASON at ANY TIME.

 

[Into the Night]

I can show you the SCOTUS decision that clearly indicated that "good cause" is not rubbish like haircuts.

SCOTUS has NO authority to override Congress, or any law passed by Congress, unless that law specifically violates the Constitution of the United States. The Supreme Court has NO authority to write law.

In 1945, the Supreme Court ruled in Bridges v. Wixon that the Attorney General could not deport Harry Bridges, an Australian-born union leader, for his alleged affiliation with the Communist Party. The court did not rule on a revoked visa, but on the rights of a permanent resident during a deportation proceeding. The decision set important precedents for the due process rights of legal aliens.
The case: Bridges v. Wixon

• Facts of the case: Harry Bridges, an immigrant and prominent labor organizer, had faced repeated attempts by the U.S. government to deport him because of his suspected links to the Communist Party. The deportation proceedings were based on the 1940 Alien Registration Act (Smith Act), which allowed for the deportation of any alien affiliated with an organization that advocates for the overthrow of the U.S. government by force or violence.
• The Supreme Court's ruling: In a 5-3 decision, the Court reversed a lower court's decision, finding that the government had failed to follow fair procedure. Justice William O. Douglas, writing for the majority, concluded that the government had based its case on unreliable hearsay and circumstantial evidence, thereby violating Bridges' due process rights.
• Definition of "affiliation": The Court ruled that the term "affiliation," as used in the Smith Act, required "concrete proof of meaningful and ongoing association" with a proscribed organization beyond casual cooperation or ideological sympathy. It was not enough to merely share a common viewpoint.
• Due process for resident aliens: The decision reaffirmed that lawful resident aliens are entitled to constitutional protections, including due process under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. In his concurring opinion, Justice Frank Murphy stated that once a lawful alien resides in the U.S., they are "invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders," including freedom of speech and the press.

SCOTUS had no such authority to issue this ruling.

 

[Into the Night]

Are you his Dr.? You can state this all you wish, it doesn’t make it a fact.

Are you his Dr.? You can state this all you wish, it doesn't make it a fact.

NOTHING you say overrides anything Damocles says here.

DON'T TRY CREDENTIAL PLEADING. It backfired on you terribly!

 

[Damocles]

What 'right to free speech'??

They disagreed with the policy of the President and Congress... the attempt to deport was based on that.

A Visa is not a right. Free speech is not a right either. There are consequences for what you say, sometimes legal ones.

that case wasn't a VISA issue. I corrected it after posting the actual case which was a deportation of a permanent resident.

Sure, but they don't get to riot and conduct acts against the United States.

That is not what this was about. If they are "celebrating" then they go... because SOS said so... and it probably is actually legal.

They won't be for long! The Visas as getting canceled!

This is what they've been doing.

Yes it can.

No, I'm not. Visas can be cancelled for a wide variety of reasons, including supporting terrorism or terrorist nations.

Anyway, catch up to the conversation. Go to the post you quoted and read what was said as the conversation went past that point. At some point folks just wind up repeating the same things and that is useless.

 

[Into the Night]

I know you don’t support them, but let’s see you call out the president for threatening to do this.

Nothing to 'call out', Pretender. Trump has the authority to cancel any Visa at any time for any reason. So does the Secretary of State.

 

[Into the Night]

You don’t look at all of their actions. The 16,000 truckloads were not enough to ease the starvation the people of Gaza are facing.

The people aren't receiving those truckloads.

 

[Into the Night]

In Gaza, mounting evidence of famine and widespread starvation

“The worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in Gaza,” UN-backed food security experts said on Tuesday, in a call to action amid unrelenting conflict, mass displacement and the near-total collapse of essential services in the war-battered enclave.

news.un.org

...and Hamas, who is confiscating those trucks, doesn't care in the least.

 

[Damocles]

SCOTUS has NO authority to override Congress, or any law passed by Congress, unless that law specifically violates the Constitution of the United States. The Supreme Court has NO authority to write law.

SCOTUS had no such authority to issue this ruling.

Congress has no authority to override the constitution, and according to Article 3 section 2 the courts decide on cases arising under "this constitution"... Literally the first thing mentioned there. SCOTUS has authority to issue rulings on the constitution, without that we have chaos as the Congress can violate your rights at whim and if they have the WH too it takes away our republic and turns it into a direct democracy where the Wolves vote on what's for dinner and we are the sheep...

Checks and balances only work if there is a balance of power. Taking away all power from one of the branches tips that balance.

 

[Into the Night]

They disagreed with the policy of the President and Congress... the attempt to deport was based on that.

Who is 'they'?

that case wasn't a VISA issue. I corrected it after posting the actual case which was a deportation of a permanent resident.

I saw that. Thanks!

That is not what this was about. If they are "celebrating" then they go... because SOS said so... and it probably is actually legal.

Yes it is.

Anyway, catch up to the conversation. Go to the post you quoted and read what was said as the conversation went past that point. At some point folks just wind up repeating the same things and that is useless.

Heh. Like THAT never happens here on JPP!

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, Hamas is evil, but that does not absolve what Netenyahu is doing to Gaza.

Netenyahu is not Hamas, Phanty.

 

[Into the Night]

Starve them. Read the articles I posted.

So you agree with Hamas. You want to starve your own people.

 

[Into the Night]

Congress has no authority to override the constitution,

Where did I argue they did??

and according to Article 3 section 2 the courts decide on cases arising under "this constitution"

The Supreme Court is not OVER the Constitution. It MUST adhere to the Constitution. It operates UNDER the Constitution. It cannot change, delete, or interpret the Constitution. It has NO authority over the Constitution. You cannot use the Constitution to cancel the Constitution!

... Literally the first thing mentioned there. SCOTUS has authority to issue rulings on the constitution,

SCOTUS has NO authority to alter, delete, or interpret the Constitution. It MUST operate UNDER the Constitution. It MUST conform to the Constitution.

without that we have chaos as the Congress can violate your rights at whim and if they have the WH too it takes away our republic and turns it into a direct democracy where the Wolves vote on what's for dinner and we are the sheep...

Rights are inherent. They do not come from a piece of paper.

Checks and balances only work if there is a balance of power. Taking away all power from one of the branches tips that balance.

Which is EXACTLY what you are arguing for!

Now, shall we return to the discussion about Visas?

 

[Damocles]

Where did I argue they did??

The Supreme Court is not OVER the Constitution. It MUST adhere to the Constitution. It operates UNDER the Constitution. It cannot change, delete, or interpret the Constitution.

SCOTUS has NO authority to alter, delete, or interpret the Constitution. It MUST operate UNDER the Constitution.

Rights are inherent. They do not come from a piece of paper.

Which is EXACTLY what you are arguing for!

Now, shall we return to the discussion about Visas?

No, at this point the conversation is on the power the courts have within the balance of powers. You continue to say they have "no authority" but it doesn't work that way. Of course the courts have authority to rule on whether a law or action of the government is within the authority enumerated to that branch per the constitution. Nobody said they had "authority over" the constitution but you, and that my friend is a very standard and obvious strawman argument.

Each of the branch has authority and each balances the other so that no one branch can breach our rights.

Do you know who has authority "over" the constitution? The States do, they created the Federal government with that contractual agreement we call the Constitution, and those states have the ability to amend that constitution even without the say or request of any of the three branches or anyone in the Federal government....

Anyway, at some point, usually around 9th grade when I was in school, you get social studies and learn what the balance of powers is, and what the courts can do, what the executive can do, what the legislature can do... None of them have "Power over the constitution" but all of them have certain authority granted them by the constitution... If they didn't Amendment 10 would be a bit useless.