I mean you two can't possibly be this stupid.
This coming from the defender of what is stupid; we call this irony.
The ACA is predominantly composed of Republican ideas that are pretty much market driven.
This is a lie and common leftist talking point. The fact that not one Republican voted for the ACA or had any input into this train wreck suggests that you are a liar. But then, you are a leftist Obama apologist, of course you would be a liar.
The only part of the ACA that is not market driven are the subsidies for health insurance for the poor. Have you not been paying attention?
What part is FORCING every American to buy something market driven? No one can be this incredibly dense.
`The universal mandate was originated by Richard Nixon's administration. It was later supported by Gerald Ford, Senate Minority Leader and Presidential nominee Bob Dole and Former Speaker of the house Newt Gringrich. Republicans adamantly opposed Democrats idea of a single payer system, essentially an expansion of medicare, that would have been far simpler to implement, far more cost affective and far more efficient at lowering costs and improving outcomes.
So let me understand this argument in support; because Republicans may have supported something not remotely similar to ACA, that makes ACA okay? Hell, a third grader could build a more coherent argument than this.
It constantly amuses me when leftist Liberals who spend every waking moment impugning Republicans for hyper partisan purposes then use Republicans to justify their ideological stupidity. It really is an amazing thing to witness.
I cannot remember ever using an argument as stupid and simple as; well he did it so it’s okay.
So who are Republicans trying to bullshit? Their main opposition to the ACA isn't because it's not market driven.
You’re right it has nothing to do with market driven; it is an abomination and unconstitutional.
The facts are it that it is almost completely market driven and you have to be a moron of stupendous magnitude not to see that. Their main opposition to the ACA is two fold.
Wrong; but then this is consistent with all of your arguments. Perhaps you come from planet wrong where down is up, right is wrong and left is right?
There are Republicans, particularly southern ones, who will oppose anything the Obama administration does on the basis of that in their eyes he's a niger.
Another repugnant and ignorant claim; but it was only a matter of time before you brought up the brain dead meme of racism.
It’s a nice crutch to use whenever your arguments are lies, distortions and cannot be supported by any facts; just call your opponents racists.
The other reason that they oppose it is because it was implemented by Democrats who some would say, stupidly bargained away the superior single payer system method and compromised with Republicans to have a MARKET DRIVEN UNIVERSAL FUCKING MANDATE!!!
How stupid are you? Please show me where Republicans had ANY input towards the ACA or voted for it.
I don’t oppose ACA because Democrats, who actually argued that they did not know what was in the bill until it become law and was implemented (that in itself is a testimony to ignorance), but because the law really is a train wreck.
The first clue was when the leaders of the Democrat effort claimed they didn’t know what was in the bill they voted for. But alas, you are a defender of hyper partisan talking points and find truth, facts and reality repugnant.
As for the health care systems failing under a single payer system. What the hell do you think has been happening to our system under the market system? It is the market that has driven costs up. It is the relentless pursuits of short term profits over the public good. Not only that it is immoral as hell to charge what the market will bear to the sick, injured and dying cause it can and will charge them everything they have and they will have no choice to pay if they want to live. The reason our systems costs have spiraled out of control is that the market system has failed. Actually it hasn't failed from a profit stand point. The health care industry has made staggering growth in profits, all on the back of the sick, injured and dying, while simultaneously denying more and more people access to basic care reducing health care outcomes in our nation to third world levels....all in pursuit of the mighty profit. Our health care system costs have spiraled out of control as a direct result of market failures to contain costs. If the market approach had not failed to badly in managing our nations health care we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Not that it matters to two people like you who apparently aren't capable of critical thinking skills.
Wrong again; but then wrong is your forte’. The market system was working fine except for States that limited competition and tried to control every facet of health insurance providers.
The abomination called ACA will not reduce costs but rather, increase them as the evidence is now showing. What will happen to this hapless law no one read before they voted for it when young people refuse to sign up and pay the extremely large premiums they will be forced to pay to subsidize everyone else?
The answer is obvious; unfortunately for you, the obvious is an insurmountable goal.
So, to put it bluntly, you two are either full of shit or profoundly ignorant on health care reform.
Wrong; that would be you. But alas, you are a non-thinking leftist devoted to parroting brain dead leftist talking points like a trained little circus monkey.
I am surprised you didn’t bring up the other lame leftist talking point in your uninformed tirade above; the equally moronic claim that we will all be healthier because of the ACA.
