Should USA borrow more?

Should USA borrow more to pay for Haiti people rescue and rebuilding?

  • Yes, without question

    Votes: 3 42.9%

  • No, USA cannot pay what it owes now

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • USA has plenty of funds and does not borrow

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • I am not certain

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .
In 2009 approximately USA$177 billion was used to pay interest on the debt. Principal remains unpaid.

Each American worker’s share of the debt is greater than USA$75,000.
 
The USA used to be "Tax and spend". Tax and spend from the masses is about maxed out as people still lose their homes here (people that actually had the ability to pay them off 5 years ago). Now we have added "borrow and spend" creating massive debt. Then we add "Print and spend" devaluing our dollar to the point where nobody wants to loan us money.

What do you think Einstien? Should we borrow more, building debt on a falling dollar and let the redistribution kings and queens of our now leadership dirrect the effort? NO!!! That is why I am writing a check today for $1000.00 to go to the American red cross to go to Haiti relief. Now, I don't really trust the red cross, becuse I just saw them use Michelle Obama for a ad to collect funds for Haiti. The problem with that choice is--people like me who have earned a little money, and want to help, are scared of the obama administration. I might need that 1000 dollars in two years---but I am going to risk it and donate anyway. I see they need it NOW!!! TO LIVE!!! (not like needing a cell phone--when I don't even own one to run a business)

If you want to step up to the plate as a compassionate individual, and practice helping people like you say you stand for---here is the address to the red cross where you can send them a check today. You can use the donation for a tax write off, so make sure you write that this money goes to the Haiti relief fund to help after the after shocks--and you include your name and address--and they will mail you a reciept. You can expect write offs like this to disapear with the obama administration. He is not for direct charity, but government control with charity--picking who gtets it and how much. That is what many of you think also---so even though you preach your compassion, you have not actually thought of writing a check to stand by what you believe. This is where the bull shit stops folks---and where true colors shine.

The American red cross
PO Box 97089
Washington DC 20090-7089

red cross phone 1-800-733-2767

Step up---or shut up.
 
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Most amusing.

Typical. USA person drowns in personal debt, possesses no savings, then persuades themself they are affluent since per capita income is high.

What is omitted from American braggadocio is the fact that nearly half of citizens owe more than they earn or own.

This madness infects the so-called "Democratic" government of USA, which is controlled entirely by influence peddlers. Policies are bought and sold daily.

Thus USA owes the future to China!
 
yellow_peril said:
Most amusing.

Typical. USA person drowns in personal debt, possesses no savings, then persuades themself they are affluent since per capita income is high.

What is omitted from American braggadocio is the fact that nearly half of citizens owe more than they earn or own.

This madness infects the so-called "Democratic" government of USA, which is controlled entirely by influence peddlers. Policies are bought and sold daily.

Thus USA owes the future to China!
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I won't argue the fact that most Americans suck with money--but I also know the progressive movement has a lot to do with that with our education system rating between 30th and 40th in the world. Personally, I don't see a excuse for that in the USA--and it is by design.

We dumbed down Americans were encouraged to take bad loans, and banks were forced to give them out---by progrerssives wanting to kill our economy out of jealously of not wanting their people to have the opportunity we had. (it is my opinion that any nation with the most free people will be attacked by every collectivist nation in the world to varying degrees)

I was smarter than that, and I am almost 100% debt free now. In fact--since I am pretty sure tour dollar will fall a lot more--by design--gold will probably go up more. So, I am thinking of not paying my home off faster now--but buy gold instead and pay it off with the worthless money later--while the money still has some worth now. Can you think of a reason why some want the dollar destroyed?

The fact remains, that if you get what you want, to destroy the American economy and build it up in a more socialist image to better match your oppressed nation---you will have a hard time generation enough money to help the world with disasters like this. China donated 1 or 5 million---we donated 100 milliojn so far and I am doing my part---because I can now!!!!

Watch how you deamonize the USA---because you will not prosper long, if at all--and others will suffer. I guess you call that compasion? Or is it some kind of "pay back" to the USA---because you never found great opportunity where ever your at. (and I notice you don't have the guts to post where your from--LIKE A PROGRESSIVE PROPAGANDA EXPERT IN HIDING!)

To add to your point though--I want to thank about 50% of the American citizenery personaly for doing absolutly nothing to add value to our nation---and all you have to do is take care of yourself. THAT'S IT!!

Sir---the poor spending behavior in the US was most likely encouraged by your government--until we ask you for money.

How much did your nation donate to Haiti again?

Yes---I am better than you!!!
 
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theMAJORITY said:
I won't argue the fact that most Americans suck with money--but I also know the progressive movement has a lot to do with that with our education system rating between 30th and 40th in the world. Personally, I don't see a excuse for that in the USA--and it is by design.

We dumbed down Americans were encouraged to take bad loans, and banks were forced to give them out---by progrerssives wanting to kill our economy out of jealously of not wanting their people to have the opportunity we had. (it is my opinion that any nation with the most free people will be attacked by every collectivist nation in the world to varying degrees)

I was smarter than that, and I am almost 100% debt free now. In fact--since I am pretty sure tour dollar will fall a lot more--by design--gold will probably go up more. So, I am thinking of not paying my home off faster now--but buy gold instead and pay it off with the worthless money later--while the money still has some worth now. Can you think of a reason why some want the dollar destroyed?

The fact remains, that if you get what you want, to destroy the American economy and build it up in a more socialist image to better match your oppressed nation---you will have a hard time generation enough money to help the world with disasters like this. China donated 1 or 5 million---we donated 100 milliojn so far and I am doing my part---because I can now!!!!

Watch how you deamonize the USA---because you will not prosper long, if at all--and others will suffer. I guess you call that compasion? Or is it some kind of "pay back" to the USA---because you never found great opportunity where ever your at. (and I notice you don't have the guts to post where your from--LIKE A PROGRESSIVE PROPAGANDA EXPERT IN HIDING!)

To add to your point though--I want to thank about 50% of the American citizenery personaly for doing absolutly nothing to add value to our nation---and all you have to do is take care of yourself. THAT'S IT!!

Sir---the poor spending behavior in the US was most likely encouraged by your government--until we ask you for money.

How much did your nation donate to Haiti again?

Yes---I am better than you!!!
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You are 'better'?

China is one of the countries most affected by natural disasters. In the course of recorded history, many types of natural disasters, except volcano eruptions have occurred in China, which include floods, droughts, meteorological, seismic, geological, maritime andecological disasters as well as forestry and grassland fires.

It had 6 of the world's top 10 deadliest natural disasters; the top 3 occurred in China: the 1931 China floods, death toll 2 million to 4million, the 1887 Yellow River flood, death toll 0.9 million to 2million, and the 1556 Shaanxi earthquake, death toll 0.83 million.

Natural disasters occur frequently in China, affecting more than 200 million people every year. They have become an important factor for economic and social development. Yet we persevere.

These natural disasters pose serious threats to life and property safety to China and its people and affect the comprehensive,coordinated and sustainable development of that country's economy and society.

Yet we make steady progress as we have for thousands of years.

We have not begged USA to borrow in order to aid us, have me? Yet you claim you are better? How?
 
yellow_peril said:
You are foolish.

China does what is necessary using available resources and aims to ensure success long-term.

Your nation does not follow this dictum.
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Yea--they exploit slave labor with the blessings of the established industrialized nations progressive elitists. I call it "redistribution of western culture welath making capabilities"---and those workers in China are not making the money--China is doing it to build their military. You call me foolish?

I remember the USA helping rebuild Japan in a much more responsible mannor. And Japan added a lot of value to manufacturing.

What you do not realize is that USA was the first nation to understand that wealth can and should be generated by any "individual" who wants to do so--and manufacturing is the key to a prosperious people in a free society.

China is doing what ever it takes to make money to build their military---and isn't it odd they choose a perverted form of capatalism (still slave labor) to do it?

Again---how much money did your nation donate to Haiti--and how much did you donate personally (or plan to today or tomarrow)?
 
yellow_peril said:
You are 'better'?

China is one of the countries most affected by natural disasters. In the course of recorded history, many types of natural disasters, except volcano eruptions have occurred in China, which include floods, droughts, meteorological, seismic, geological, maritime andecological disasters as well as forestry and grassland fires.

It had 6 of the world's top 10 deadliest natural disasters; the top 3 occurred in China: the 1931 China floods, death toll 2 million to 4million, the 1887 Yellow River flood, death toll 0.9 million to 2million, and the 1556 Shaanxi earthquake, death toll 0.83 million.

Natural disasters occur frequently in China, affecting more than 200 million people every year. They have become an important factor for economic and social development. Yet we persevere.

These natural disasters pose serious threats to life and property safety to China and its people and affect the comprehensive,coordinated and sustainable development of that country's economy and society.

Yet we make steady progress as we have for thousands of years.

We have not begged USA to borrow in order to aid us, have me? Yet you claim you are better? How?
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They also run their citizens over with army tanks if they assemble to protest like we can.

China has a long lasting culture of thousands of years. The USA became the worlds most prosperious nation in the world for it's citizens in about 3 or 4 generations. If you don't see the results of the different methods of a society, how long does China need if they were who you say they are? The wages can be high--or they can be low anywhere in the world. It depends on what the world leaders choose.

Believe me--I don't want to owned by anyone--especialy a communist nation. I don't want our government to destroy our economy and ask others for money to make sure the destruction lasts for generations. That sir---is what you want. I want everybody to prosper and grow, but if we don't do it in a responsible mannor--none of us unwashed masses will have a chance--like China citizns have not for about 2000 years--and still today on a dollar a day.

You sir---are being used to gain power for the worlds decision makers only. As a American that understands the individual human spirit---don't do it!
 
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theMAJORITY said:
Yea--they exploit slave labor with the blessings of the established industrialized nations progressive elitists. I call it "redistribution of western culture welath making capabilities"---and those workers in China are not making the money--China is doing it to build their military. You call me foolish?

I remember the USA helping rebuild Japan in a much more responsible mannor. And Japan added a lot of value to manufacturing.

What you do not realize is that USA was the first nation to understand that wealth can and should be generated by any "individual" who wants to do so--and manufacturing is the key to a prosperious people in a free society.

China is doing what ever it takes to make money to build their military---and isn't it odd they choose a perverted form of capatalism (still slave labor) to do it?

Again---how much money did your nation donate to Haiti--and how much did you donate personally (or plan to today or tomarrow)?
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It is regrettable for your nation's image that you dub yourself the 'majority'.

The desire to exploit developing societies seems ingrained in what you call your 'national character'. The ruthless dispossession and genocide of indigenous peoples of North America, the importation of African slaves to build your prosperity, the ill-treatment meted out by USA to waves of immigrants (including Chinese) all belie your empty boasting of moral superiority.

Because you think it is sharp practice to obtain cheap goods with borrowed funds, we allow you to slake your voracious appetites for material possessions and debt.

Your dollars are fueling our expansion in many arenas. Should we thank the witless tools who thus finance their own decline?

You are incorrect in thinking we build our military to control USA. We already control you.

As to challenges over Haitian relief, we do what we will with our own resources.

We do not use means borrowed from our creditors in order to gratify a false self-image of righteousness.

Your future generations will repay what you have borrowed to finance your boasting of 'most compassionate'.
 
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You, along with about 50% of the US citizenry---never did, and never will feel any freedom---ever.

Here is a global point of the great China. Because I come from manufacturing, and know we have to produce things of value to add value to our families, city, state and nation--I saw this global economic disaster comming over 10 years ago. I was told by a CEO of a electronics company in CA. (my cosins husband) that "If we help China with our welath making capabilities, the citizens will eventually become consumers of our products."

Well---not to many China workers can afford anything still--after 31 years (China decided to give semi private capatalism a try in 1978---and the redistribution of western culture wealth making capabilities began)---I sell my little engines all over the world. The USA, Canada, All of Europe, parts of the middle East. I have sold about 4000 engines and I don'tknow how many top end kits (a lot more)---but I never sold one to anybody in China.
 
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