Should teens have to get business licenses to mow lawns?

[TTQ64]

I guarantee the person who wanted the kid to get a license was a racist white man, mad that some little girl was doing a better job and making more money than him.

The real argument cawacky was trying to make was that this was the Dems fault, but then came Nomad.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Cancel 2018.2]

I guarantee the person who wanted the kid to get a license was a racist white man, mad that some little girl was doing a better job and making more money than him.

The real argument cawacky was trying to make was that this was the Dems fault, but then came Nomad.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Nice, prove your theory.

 

[cawacko]

I guarantee the person who wanted the kid to get a license was a racist white man, mad that some little girl was doing a better job and making more money than him.

The real argument cawacky was trying to make was that this was the Dems fault, but then came Nomad.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is your brain, this is your brain on drugs. Any questions?

 

[cawacko]

It was a local landscaper who complained so that must be a Republican because democrats are all intellectuals and well educated. even though they are so compassionate about caring for poor republicans. So no democrat would be a landscaper. It makes total sense.

 

[CFM]

I guarantee the person who wanted the kid to get a license was a racist white man, mad that some little girl was doing a better job and making more money than him.

The real argument cawacky was trying to make was that this was the Dems fault, but then came Nomad.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Guarantees require proof. Do you have any, BOY?

 

[Nomad]

i always ban nomad from my threads. he's a huge asshole and contributes nothing to the conversation.

nomad domer76 and evince are like trifecta, with cartoonKen being thrown in for good measure sometimes.

Ever look in the mirror, SHITBAG?

Talk about a case of the pot calling the kettle black...

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

Interesting topic for the role of gov't. I'm sure many of us sold lemonade on the street corner as a kid or mowed lawns or some other type of labor to make some spare change. Should kids have to get licenses today to do what we did as youth?





Town debates whether teens who mow lawns should pay $110 for business license


A debate has erupted in an Alabama town over whether teenagers who make pocket money mowing neighbors' lawns should pay for a $110 business license.

Gardendale requires that anyone operating a business for pay buy a $110 license, and some would like to see this ordinance enforced with teens cutting grass.

Elton Campbell is the grandfather of a teenager who mows lawns in Gardendale. Campbell told ABC 33/40 that a local landscaper remarked he would report Campbell's granddaughter to city officials if he saw her working because she doesn't have a business license.

"I have never heard of a child cutting grass [needing] a business license," he said.


News about the controversy exploded on ABC 33/40's Facebook page with many of the more than 950 comments expressing outrage.

"Ridiculous!!!!" wrote one. "These days you can hardly get kids to work and when they are willing to, you make them have a license to cut grass!"

"What???? Kids have always cut grass in the summer for extra money!!! At least they ain't out there getting in trouble and selling drugs to make money. This is so wrong!" shared another.

In response to the uproar, Gardendale Mayor Stan Hogeland told ABC 33/40 the city council will come up with a solution at its June 5 meeting.

"I would love to have something on our books that gave a more favorable response to that student out there cutting grass. And see if there's maybe a temporary license during the summer months that targets teenagers," Hogeland said.


http://m.sfgate.com/mommyfiles/arti...-business-license-Gardendale-Ala-11189275.php

If they advertise and formally market their services, yes.
If strictly door to door and word of mouth, no.

 

[Micawber]

Wow, when we were kids we mowed lawns, shoveled snow, raked leaves, paper routes, etc for pocket change until we could get a work permit at 14, then we got a regular job (at least on summer break) and started paying taxes.

These kind of jobs taught us the value of money and work ethics. No need to dishearten and dissuade them so early with this kind of bureaucracy .

On the contrary, it, like the work you describe, will teach them the inherent joy in government paperwork, filling in forms, maintaining records and corporate compliance and paying fees thereby teaching a profound sense of duty and loyalty to America.

 

[Rune]

just another example of a life failure learning that a 14 year old can do his profession. So he needs to gatekeep to make HIMSELF feel like he's more accomplished.

Liberals want to kill all motivation and can-do attitude and hustle because they can't stand others showing them up for being the piece of lazy shit that they are.

Shit fer brains; what makes you think the disgruntled landscaper is a liberal?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Alabama.

Solid red, solid right.

What else would you expect out of such a right-wing gub'mint hater hypocrite state?

is it your contention that this doesn't happen in blue states?

 

[Bigdog]

Here in Maryland, just about all the landscapers are Latinos.

 

[Rune]

That seems to be changing slowly. Thankfully.

Sorry not going to happen.
Way too many educated and intelligent people.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

What a shame that a thread that could have resulted in a great conversation about the role of government had descended into typical JPP bullshit. I honestly can't believe people have spent five pages arguing over whether this is a blue or red district as if it really has any bearing on the OP.

So I will attempt to get this on track.

First let's stipulate a few things. Based on the story it doesn't appears the law was actually enforced. Second whether this is a democrat or republican district is completely irrelevant and anyone who is trying to make it about that is mouth breather more interested in Big Indian Little Indian rather than actual principle.

So my two cents are this.

The real problem with this story is a business trying to use government to create barriers to entry in an effort to stifle competition.

Only a moron would think that this law was supposed to apply to a child running a lemonade stand when it was passed. But this is what ultimately happens with well intentioned legislation. At some point down the road some douche lawyer will try to twist it into something it wasn't intended to be. Title IX and ADA come to mind.

The real problem here is the landscaper who essentially became a rent seeker due to perceived competition from a teen aged girl.

There are a number of different ways a creative business man could have handled this. One would have been to seize the opportunity and have the girl work for him earning her way to her trip. She would have learned a valuable life lesson and he would have generated buzz and good will in the local neighborhood which would have eventually led to more business.

Notice this douche hides behind anonymity. Because he knows what he is doing is low rent.

This is a microcosm of society today where businesses have learned that it is more cost effective to become rent seekers than truly compete in the free market. Competing is hard. I know. I compete in the free market for tenants. But I have always been a step ahead of my competition and I am usually more expensive.

A dirty little secret is that one of the biggest fans of government regulation is big corporations. Why? Because it creates a larger burden for smaller companies thus putting them out of business. It also creates barriers to entry.

Of course businesses have been trying to gain advantages over their competitors for years. The problem is unethical and immoral politicians greasing the wheels for them.

Of course these regulations are always couched in a way that the public will be duly served usually something about safety. I am sure someone would argue that because she may spray some roundup and it is a chemical it shouldn't fall under government control. That is the lame assed excuse for why they make cosmetologist get licensed.

Now if you would like to respond to this post in the context of the OP, I will be happy to engage you. If on the other hand you want to continue jerking off over whether this is a democrat or republican district then I will treat you like the mouth breather you are and ignore you.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Really?

I haven't seen one of you point out that Alabama is a conservative red state.

I did see one or two of you blame lib'ruls, though.

Why does it matter what state it is or whether it is blue or red mouth breather?

 

[tinfoil]

Yes, let's try to put this thread back on track.

Licensing contract work is reasonable. If the girl was drawing up contracts and taking deposits before work was performed, sure, it's reasonable to require she get a license so she understands her rights and obligations under the law regarding contracting.

I suppose the argument for a monetary cut off point at which a license would be required makes sense, but there should be a provision for students saving for schooling or training ( maybe that would require some special savings account for tuition only)

The only issue left would be liability in case of an accident. Normal licensed businesses usually are required to carry insurance. If the little girl runs over a child with the mower, does she have insurance to cover the loss? Do her parents have insurance for it?

 

[Sailor]

Yes, let's try to put this thread back on track.

Licensing contract work is reasonable. If the girl was drawing up contracts and taking deposits before work was performed, sure, it's reasonable to require she get a license so she understands her rights and obligations under the law regarding contracting.

I suppose the argument for a monetary cut off point at which a license would be required makes sense, but there should be a provision for students saving for schooling or training ( maybe that would require some special savings account for tuition only)

The only issue left would be liability in case of an accident. Normal licensed businesses usually are required to carry insurance. If the little girl runs over a child with the mower, does she have insurance to cover the loss? Do her parents have insurance for it?

She could use the reward monies from the "Proving Darwins Theory" prize she would get.

 

[Bill]

A dirty little secret is that one of the biggest fans of government regulation is big corporations. Why? Because it creates a larger burden for smaller companies thus putting them out of business. It also creates barriers to entry.

Of course businesses have been trying to gain advantages over their competitors for years. The problem is unethical and immoral politicians greasing the wheels for them.

Of course these regulations are always couched in a way that the public will be duly served usually something about safety. I am sure someone would argue that because she may spray some roundup and it is a chemical it shouldn't fall under government control. That is the lame assed excuse for why they make cosmetologist get licensed.

Now if you would like to respond to this post in the context of the OP, I will be happy to engage you. If on the other hand you want to continue jerking off over whether this is a democrat or republican district then I will treat you like the mouth breather you are and ignore you.

I agree, many laws, & the enforcement of, is for those exact reasons.....

While they bitch about regs, they don't want all of them changed/removed, they just want the ones effecting them changed/removed & those effecting their competitors to be fully enforced if not enhanced........

If his business is threaten by a kid w/ a lawn mower he prob running a pretty crappy operation anyway..

 

[Nomad]

i always ban nomad from my threads. he's a huge asshole and contributes nothing to the conversation.

Not a problem for me since you've never started a thread worth responding to anyway.

nomad domer76 and evince are like trifecta, with cartoon Ken being thrown in for good measure sometimes.

A trifecta of kicking your ass.

 

[Bill]

Yes, let's try to put this thread back on track.

Licensing contract work is reasonable. If the girl was drawing up contracts and taking deposits before work was performed, sure, it's reasonable to require she get a license so she understands her rights and obligations under the law regarding contracting.

I suppose the argument for a monetary cut off point at which a license would be required makes sense, but there should be a provision for students saving for schooling or training ( maybe that would require some special savings account for tuition only)

The only issue left would be liability in case of an accident. Normal licensed businesses usually are required to carry insurance. If the little girl runs over a child with the mower, does she have insurance to cover the loss? Do her parents have insurance for it?

Guess you didn't bother to read post #93 & #72.... But thanx...

 

[Cancel 2018.2]

Not a problem for me since you've never started a thread worth responding to anyway.



A trifecta of kicking your ass.

Yet, you want to respond to his posts.