should puerto rico be granted independence?

[tsuke]

looks like evil US leadership is not working out for puerto rico. Maybe we should just let them go and part amicably.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

It's extreme to call US leadership/Trump "evil."

Incredibly self-centered, thin-skinned and incompetent? Any of those would work. You can always use the "edit" feature to correct.

 

[Damocles]

They haven't asked for it, and they also haven't yet asked for statehood. So. This question is meaningless.

 

[tsuke]

It's extreme to call US leadership/Trump "evil."

Incredibly self-centered, thin-skinned and incompetent? Any of those would work. You can always use the "edit" feature to correct.

we need to liberate our colonial possessions brother thing!

 

[Amadeus]

Should the Southern States cede from the US and form their own country? Yes. And when they are collapsing from conservative governing, they should not be allowed to suckle at America's teat.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

we need to liberate our colonial possessions brother thing!

Nah. We just need a better President.

 

[Getin the ring]

The original idea was for Puerto Rico to become a contributor to our union.
By now it should be obvious they are just taking, a drain on our system as if we needed another California.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/investing/puerto-rico-debt-who-owns-trump/

So yea maybe it's time we let them go.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

there have been elections held that did not gain a majority.....

 

[Damocles]

there have been elections held that did not gain a majority.....

Yeah. Normally brought about by Democrats who believe that they would vote with them.

 

[archives]

The original idea was for Puerto Rico to become a contributor to our union.
By now it should be obvious they are just taking, a drain on our system as if we needed another California.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/investing/puerto-rico-debt-who-owns-trump/

So yea maybe it's time we let them go.

.

Not California, rather the majority of red states

"GOP-leaning states get lion's share of federal dollars"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/

 

[archives]

Yeah. Normally brought about by Democrats who believe that they would vote with them.

I knew it, it was the Democrats fault, what exactly for is difficult to tell, but it is definitely the Democrats fault

 

[tsuke]

The original idea was for Puerto Rico to become a contributor to our union.
By now it should be obvious they are just taking, a drain on our system as if we needed another California.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/investing/puerto-rico-debt-who-owns-trump/

So yea maybe it's time we let them go.

i dont see any benefit in keeping PR samoa and the other random islands.

 

[tsuke]

I knew it, it was the Democrats fault, what exactly for is difficult to tell, but it is definitely the Democrats fault

maybe california gets to keep more of their money because they charge massive taxes then just deduct it using SALT deductions?

 

[Русский агент]

I knew it, it was the Democrats fault, what exactly for is difficult to tell, but it is definitely the Democrats fault

Decades of DEMOCRAT-dominated leftist governance might have something to do with it, anchovies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Puerto_Rico#1968.E2.80.93present




DEMOCRATS, anchovies:

Puerto Ricans "were collectively made U.S. citizens" in 1917 as a result of the Jones–Shafroth Act. The act was signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on March 2, 1917.

U.S. Federal law 8 U.S.C. § 1402 approved by the President Harry S. Truman on June 27, 1952 declared all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941 to be citizens of the U.S. at birth and all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, and meeting certain other technical requirements, and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, were declared to be citizens of the U.S. as of January 13, 1941.

H.R. 2499 was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on May 19, 2009 by Pedro Pierluisi (D-Puerto Rico). The bill would provide for a referendum giving Puerto Ricans the choice between the options of retaining their present political status, or choosing a new status.[38] If the former option were to win, the referendum would have been held again every 8 years. If the latter option were to win, a separate referendum would be held where Puerto Ricans would have been given the option of being admitted as a US State "on equal footing with the other states", or becoming a "sovereign nation, either fully independent from or in free association with the United States."

On May 15, 2013, headed by non-voting Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi, a group of 119 DEMOCRAT and 12 Republican members of Congress cosponsored H.R. 2000, the Puerto Rico Status Resolution Act to Congress, requesting a process for voting to admit Puerto Rico as a State to be approved and a vote to ratify Puerto Rico as a state.



Now, play close attention to the rightmost column , anchovies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Puerto_Rico#Governors_under_the_Constitution_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Puerto_Rico

So, anchovies, DEMOCRATS.

 

[Getin the ring]

i dont see any benefit in keeping PR samoa and the other random islands.

of course not, Puerto Rico is becoming like California, draining our resources through the benefits programs, meanwhile adding nothing to the common good

 

[tsuke]

of course not, Puerto Rico is becoming like California, draining our resources through the benefits programs, meanwhile adding nothing to the common good

i cant wait for salt to be repealed. The liberal tears will be priceless.

 

[Русский агент]

i dont see any benefit in keeping PR samoa and the other random islands.

Especially since Warmists say they are going to vanish soon, amirite?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Yeah. Normally brought about by Democrats who believe that they would vote with them.

The pro-statehood party is actually more typically aligned with Republicans. Although the current pro-statehood governor is aligned with the Democrats.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Should Trumpist states be flooded with water so that they can be useful finally, and serve as shipping lanes?

 

[CFM]

Should the Southern States cede from the US and form their own country? Yes. And when they are collapsing from conservative governing, they should not be allowed to suckle at America's teat.

They wouldn't collapse. My State nor the neighboring States would have to continue to enable the majority black congressional districts where more than 20% of the residents use food stamps to leech off the hardworking taxpayers.