Should parents be arrested for underage drinking at their home?

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Onceler

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Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this; they just arrested someone for this, again.

My own view is no, they should not be arrested. First, I have problems w/ a drinking age of 21. At 18, you're old enough to fight for your country & risk your life, but not old enough to get a beer when you come home from your service?

Anyhoo, that's beside the point. To me, it's just a law, or an enforcement of a law, that flies in the face of the reality of underage drinking. I personally know very few people - VERY few - who did not drink in high school. It's basically a right of passage for most. The law has it's place - make it difficult to get, at stores or in bars.

But to hold parents accountable for drinking at their homes? I knew quite a few parents who allowed this when I was in school, and for good reason. It kept things more controlled, and under their supervision. It's just dealing w/ the reality in a responsible way, imo.
 
only if your doing it to clear the jails of pot heads, something equally retarded to be in jail for.
Raise your hand if you didn't drink your parents booze as a teen.
 
Onceler said:
Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this; they just arrested someone for this, again.

My own view is no, they should not be arrested. First, I have problems w/ a drinking age of 21. At 18, you're old enough to fight for your country & risk your life, but not old enough to get a beer when you come home from your service?

Anyhoo, that's beside the point. To me, it's just a law, or an enforcement of a law, that flies in the face of the reality of underage drinking. I personally know very few people - VERY few - who did not drink in high school. It's basically a right of passage for most. The law has it's place - make it difficult to get, at stores or in bars.

But to hold parents accountable for drinking at their homes? I knew quite a few parents who allowed this when I was in school, and for good reason. It kept things more controlled, and under their supervision. It's just dealing w/ the reality in a responsible way, imo.
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I'm not understanding why you are raising a stink about this. This is a classic example of the federal control over the states that you liberals wanted.

The short answer to this question is because Congress passed the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (Title 23 U.S.C. §158) which essentially said to the states:

If you (states) want the federal money you’re entitled to for your roads and transportation systems, then you will raise your minimum drinking age to 21 years old.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I'm not understanding why you are raising a stink about this. This is a classic example of the federal control over the states that you liberals wanted.

The short answer to this question is because Congress passed the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (Title 23 U.S.C. §158) which essentially said to the states:

If you (states) want the federal money you’re entitled to for your roads and transportation systems, then you will raise your minimum drinking age to 21 years old.
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Will you please stop with that "you liberals" BS one of these days? I know you'd love to fit everyone into a neat little package, but life doesn't work that way. I'm much more of a states rights guy, btw.

It just sounds idiotic.
 
No one under 21 should be arrested for having alcohol at home. There are many uses. However, parents permitting underage kids to party at home is when the parents should be held responsible.
 
Onceler said:
Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this; they just arrested someone for this, again.

My own view is no, they should not be arrested. First, I have problems w/ a drinking age of 21. At 18, you're old enough to fight for your country & risk your life, but not old enough to get a beer when you come home from your service?

Anyhoo, that's beside the point. To me, it's just a law, or an enforcement of a law, that flies in the face of the reality of underage drinking. I personally know very few people - VERY few - who did not drink in high school. It's basically a right of passage for most. The law has it's place - make it difficult to get, at stores or in bars.

But to hold parents accountable for drinking at their homes? I knew quite a few parents who allowed this when I was in school, and for good reason. It kept things more controlled, and under their supervision. It's just dealing w/ the reality in a responsible way, imo.
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Only your parents. Look at what their son could have become...but no....they let him drink under age....and attend a third rate college.
 
In most states you can give your own children alcohol. The times there have been problems with the law were usually other kids at the house drinking.

My kids have all had wine with special dinners since they were 5 or 6. They would take a taste, make a face and want something else. They also had a taste of my beer occasionally. I think it took the mystique away from drinking.
 
Onceler, you found one of those VERY FEW right here. Well technically I drank for the first time in April of my senior year in high school so maybe a month before graduation. At the time I remember thinking I was an athlete and athlete's didn't drink (yeah right!) so that's why I didn't.

Baring some outlier situation no I don't believe parents should be in trouble when underage kids drink in their home.
 
cawacko said:
Onceler, you found one of those VERY FEW right here. Well technically I drank for the first time in April of my senior year in high school so maybe a month before graduation. At the time I remember thinking I was an athlete and athlete's didn't drink (yeah right!) so that's why I didn't.

Baring some outlier situation no I don't believe parents should be in trouble when underage kids drink in their home.
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And this just goes to show that the age you first take a drink may have very little bearing on how many times you get drunkassed as an adult!
 
Kind of torn on this one Lorax. Remember as you read my response I am a non-drinker and will teach my kid to be the same....I've never drank anything stronger than Nyquil in my life. In high school while hanging out with the kids if someone broke out the Buds or Coors or most likely, the Milwalkee's Best :)....I left.

Now, if parents were truly responsible as you describe here:

I knew quite a few parents who allowed this when I was in school, and for good reason. It kept things more controlled, and under their supervision.
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The problem that I have is that the parents around here who would/have allow such at their home are not....or at least haven't been responsible. They join in and get plastered right along with the kids and the kids are still left on their own. I understand the concept of being "controlled" and "supervised" but most of the time in the cases that we have dealt with (more than a few) it wasn't happening. And then there is the matter of getting impaired kids home. That is something that should be dealt with.

I have a real problem with the drinking culture we have. Love country music but hate the drinking songs....latest: Red Solo Cup. A guy called in to the radio this morning to have that played for some 16 year old girl whose birthday was today. Ugh.... Teach kids to do something besides drink at big events. Oh well, that's my rant.
 
Onceler said:
Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this; they just arrested someone for this, again.

My own view is no, they should not be arrested. First, I have problems w/ a drinking age of 21. At 18, you're old enough to fight for your country & risk your life, but not old enough to get a beer when you come home from your service?

Anyhoo, that's beside the point. To me, it's just a law, or an enforcement of a law, that flies in the face of the reality of underage drinking. I personally know very few people - VERY few - who did not drink in high school. It's basically a right of passage for most. The law has it's place - make it difficult to get, at stores or in bars.

But to hold parents accountable for drinking at their homes? I knew quite a few parents who allowed this when I was in school, and for good reason. It kept things more controlled, and under their supervision. It's just dealing w/ the reality in a responsible way, imo.
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The drinking age should be Capt. Billy's age + 1.
 
Onceler said:
Will you please stop with that "you liberals" BS one of these days? I know you'd love to fit everyone into a neat little package, but life doesn't work that way. I'm much more of a states rights guy, btw.

It just sounds idiotic.
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you have a point, to a certain extent. remember though, i do the same with conservatives as well.
 
cawacko said:
Onceler, you found one of those VERY FEW right here. Well technically I drank for the first time in April of my senior year in high school so maybe a month before graduation. At the time I remember thinking I was an athlete and athlete's didn't drink (yeah right!) so that's why I didn't.

Baring some outlier situation no I don't believe parents should be in trouble when underage kids drink in their home.
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No kidding? Never would have guessed that (not implying you're a lushface now, but....). I knew & was friends w/ kids in HS who didn't drink; it wasn't a big deal, and most of them still hung out. But the vast majority did. Most of my class actually started drinking in middle school, which seems crazy to me, but hey....
 
Most people drink, the retards who want to tell other people how to live need to focus on getting a fucking life.
It's part of the culture down here for kids to drink before 21. Many parents allow children to drink around them. Funny it's usuall the small government conservative that want to get into peoples homes and tell them what to do.
 
leaningright said:
Kind of torn on this one Lorax. Remember as you read my response I am a non-drinker and will teach my kid to be the same....I've never drank anything stronger than Nyquil in my life. In high school while hanging out with the kids if someone broke out the Buds or Coors or most likely, the Milwalkee's Best :)....I left.

Now, if parents were truly responsible as you describe here:



The problem that I have is that the parents around here who would/have allow such at their home are not....or at least haven't been responsible. They join in and get plastered right along with the kids and the kids are still left on their own. I understand the concept of being "controlled" and "supervised" but most of the time in the cases that we have dealt with (more than a few) it wasn't happening. And then there is the matter of getting impaired kids home. That is something that should be dealt with.

I have a real problem with the drinking culture we have. Love country music but hate the drinking songs....latest: Red Solo Cup. A guy called in to the radio this morning to have that played for some 16 year old girl whose birthday was today. Ugh.... Teach kids to do something besides drink at big events. Oh well, that's my rant.
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Well, it's definitely a drinking culture, and has been forever (even during prohibition). I know what you mean about parents who allow the drinking & just join right in, but I only really have my own experience to go by. The majority of times, the parents didn't join in, and they were there to intervene if it looked like someone had too much and was planning on driving. There were also instances where they collected keys, like in "Say Anything" if you saw that flick.

Also in most cases, the alternative was much worse - every kid driving to a spot somewhere in the woods or by the river or wherever, and drinking completely unsupervised & driving home. To me, that's all this kind of enforcement of the law encourages.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I'm not understanding why you are raising a stink about this. This is a classic example of the federal control over the states that you liberals wanted.

The short answer to this question is because Congress passed the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (Title 23 U.S.C. §158) which essentially said to the states:

If you (states) want the federal money you’re entitled to for your roads and transportation systems, then you will raise your minimum drinking age to 21 years old.
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I think that was a terrible ruling. If it's never reversed, the constitution should be amended. I am OK with, for instance, the federal government offering money to states to start social programs and such. It's simply a cooperative way of going about things, rather than dictating everything from the center. However, when the federal government threatens to selectively revoke aid to force states to pass legislation in entirely unrelated areas, there is a huge problem. Such practices basically end federalism.
 
....I've never drank anything stronger than Nyquil in my life.

I hate to be the one to break to this to you leaning, but Nyquil is strong stuff. There's many a night I took a nice swig of Nyuil just to feel it coursing through my body and bringing that sweet fog to my brain. Oh yes.

So I don't know who you think you're kidding with this act, but I know. I know.
 
Onceler said:
No kidding? Never would have guessed that (not implying you're a lushface now, but....). I knew & was friends w/ kids in HS who didn't drink; it wasn't a big deal, and most of them still hung out. But the vast majority did. Most of my class actually started drinking in middle school, which seems crazy to me, but hey....
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I've often wondered if I drank more as a kid would I not drink as much now? Obviously no real way to answer that.

Part of it for me is I live in a City where there are lots of young people (20's & 30's) where working and going out for a drink is kind of a way of life. I can count 10 bars within 7 blocks from where I live. I've been single for quite awhile as well which leads to going out and drinking more. Now that I'm in a serious relationship I almost want to go out more because I know very shortly my way of life is going to completely change.
 
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