Should he have been killed?

Supreme Being Yurt said:
Texas 8th Grader Shot and Killed by Police was Carrying a Pellet Gun

The Texas eighth grader shot and killed by police in a middle school hallway Wednesday was carrying a pellet gun, not a handgun as police initially thought.

The parents of 15-year-old Jaime Gonzalez are demanding to know why officers took lethal force against their son, but police say the boy was brandishing — and refused to drop — what looked like a handgun, and that the officers acted correctly.

According to police radio records obtained by the Brownsville Herald, officers arrived at Cummings Middle School and saw a male holding a black handgun in a hallway. Police said he pointed the gun at officers as they repeatedly asked him to drop the weapon:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/upd...d-killed-by-police-was-carrying-a-pellet-gun/

if anyone has more facts to share, that would help. i don't know how i feel about this one yet. if there were no other people in immediate harm, why didn't the police back off or use non-lethal force?

btw...15 in eighth grade?
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the manufacturer that designed and sold the CO2 pellet gun that was made to look like a real semi-automatic gun should be held responsible, that and whoever gave the gun to a child should be held responsible

as for the police, how could they tell the difference between the pellet gun and a real firearm when it is designed to look like a real gun

i think that this was a suicide by cop scenario, why else would the gun wielder refuse to drop the gun and then point it at the cops
 
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Don Quixote said:
the manufacturer that designed and sold the CO2 pellet gun that was made to look like a real semi-automatic gun should be held responsible, that and whoever gave the gun to a child should be held responsible

as for the police, how could they tell the difference between the pellet gun and a real firearm when it is designed to look like a real run

i think that this was a suicide by cop scenario, why else would the gun wielder refuse to drop the gun and then point it at the cops
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why should the manufacturer be responsible for the unforseeable criminal acts of third parties? that goes against well established law.
 
Damocles said:
Yup trained to fire in 2 or 3 shot bursts at center mass. You can even hear them at the range... it's distinct.
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unfortunately, it is proper training for situations where police face life or death or would you prefer a live criminal and a dead cop
 
Return of Dune said:
Wait, death is a minor point? Even if not the goal, it is the almost certain result. As far as I know, the police now utilize various forms of non-lethal force as well. If death were not as least part of the goal, a nonlethal weapon would be the first choice.
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Those are reffered to as 'less-than-lethal' weapons. They can, and frequently do, cause death.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
why?
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as i said, imo making a pellet gun look like a real firearm is criminal

non-firearm pistols should not be black but florescent

also, a pellet gun can be lethal at close range or cause great bodily harm - for those that disagree with my opinion on its criminality
 
Damocles said:
Me? Is this rhetorical?
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do you mean was i having fun at your expense? he he he

i sometimes think that there are those on the board that think so

3 shots center mass are the correct response from a cop when confronted by someone with a firearm
 
Supreme Being Yurt said:
why should the manufacturer be responsible for the unforseeable criminal acts of third parties? that goes against well established law.
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as i said, imo making a pellet gun look like a real firearm is criminal

non-firearm pistols should not be black but florescent

also, a pellet gun can be lethal at close range or cause great bodily harm - for those that disagree with my opinion on its criminality
 
Return of Dune said:
Wait, death is a minor point? Even if not the goal, it is the almost certain result. As far as I know, the police now utilize various forms of non-lethal force as well. If death were not as least part of the goal, a nonlethal weapon would be the first choice.
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Stop being retarded. You don't bring pepper spray to a gun fight. :palm:
 
Don Quixote said:
as i said, imo making a pellet gun look like a real firearm is criminal

non-firearm pistols should not be black but florescent

also, a pellet gun can be lethal at close range or cause great bodily harm - for those that disagree with my opinion on its criminality
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which is why every state includes pellet guns in the definition of 'firearm'. so no, it's not criminal to make a pellet gun look like a real gun. The only 'gun' that i know of required to have the orange tips are the airsoft guns.
 
DamnYankee said:
As predicted, you can't man-up to being wrong.
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What exactly am I wrong about? If someone is shot multiple times in the chest, its expected and anticpated that they die, hence why such a tactic is used in the first place. Just because the slim possibility exists that it won't happen, does not mean that it is not the intent.
 
Don Quixote said:
as i said, imo making a pellet gun look like a real firearm is criminal

non-firearm pistols should not be black but florescent

also, a pellet gun can be lethal at close range or cause great bodily harm - for those that disagree with my opinion on its criminality
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So a lethal item should be painted to resemble a non lethal one? Huh?
 
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