Short Circuit

Damocles said:
What I think it means has little to do with you mocking this young woman for being unprepared for a question during an interview. If you want a discussion on what folks think "woke" is in a larger context than the simple google definition you cut and pasted, then start a thread on it. Here we are discussing how this young woman was unprepared for what appears to be a single question during a much longer interview.
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Young woman? She's 37.

She's been all around the block for the last 12 years.

She's a grifter...that's why she couldn't explain the premise of her book; she didn't fucking write it.
 
Damocles said:
I didn't say that "everyone knew" I said (quoting here) "I think she thought..." in that I do believe that she thought exactly what I said following those words.
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She knows what "woke" means because it was defined in court by DeSantis' AG, she just didn't want to say it because she would look bad and racist disagreeing with a Black woman that there are systemic injustices in America that need to be addressed.

Telling that to a Black woman is what tripped her up.

She was too afraid to say what she really believed because what she really believes is abhorrent...and she knows it.
 
LV426 said:
This happens to any Conservative you ask to define "woke".
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Any?

Woke = A person who has a unshakable belief in Leftist values, like Environmental and Social Justice which to them means a belief in anthropogenic CO2 as the cause of climate change and the need to get rid of anything and everything that produces CO2. A belief in zero tolerance for pollution (eg., any amount of any type of pollution = bad). A belief in wealth redistribution. A belief in racial and gender equity based on sex and skin color regardless of ability. That is, the measure of justice and fairness in anything is how closely it hews to the gender and racial makeup of society.
Woke also means a belief that Socialism is not only good, but necessary and better than other economic systems because it is "fair."
The woke believe in equal outcomes, not equal opportunity.
 
Damocles said:
I don't believe you've ever read any book that doesn't fit within your political viewpoint, let alone all of this persons books and/or articles (multiples) "for years". It's possible you googled the person and read about her, but you've given no indication this is the case, so far all you've given is assumption and blather. I imagine you thought we'd believe that you actually have spent hours reading everything she ever wrote, entertained thought about it then made a dermination?
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I read your garbage posts, so of course I read everything by everyone.
 
Damocles said:
I call bullsh*t. On this site you have actively worked to demonstrate that you have no ability at all to entertain any idea that doesn't fit within your own limited viewpoint even to simply disagree with it. You actually have actively shown the deliberate inability to actually absorb and understand actual facts that do not fit inside your limited view of what "should be".
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I will always entertain an idea...so long as that idea isn't trapped in a hole of dissonance, and so long as some thought was put behind it.

But the thing is, nearly every single Conservative argument is rooted in dissonance or is thoughtless.

So by not accepting "take my word for it", I've disarmed you of the only tool you have to convince people of the legitimacy of your argument and beliefs. That's what has you so upset; I'm not playing your game of make believe.

None of you cowards ever want to address the dissonance at the heart of every single fucking thing you morons say here.

For real.
 
Damocles said:
I personally do not believe that you have seen or read more than the 30 seconds of this video in regard to this person.
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Well, now you're just projecting because you know you can't win this debate.

Mandel's been around for a while now, running her grift. And her grift is so successful that she has you simping for her and making excuses.

Oh yeah, that's another character trait among you and your Nazi pals...excuse making.

You all come up with excuses for not doing things.

You'll come up with an excuse for not responding to this post...just watch.
 
Damocles said:
You can mansplain some more about how awful everyone who doesn't think like you is. I'll give you the last word and you can pretend you "won". Work real hard and you might even convince yourself.
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What a fucking little BITCH.

You can't handle having your shitty beliefs thrown back into your face so you try to usurp the mantle of victimhood.

The only thing you are a victim of is your own poor judgment.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Any?

Woke = A person who has a unshakable belief in Leftist values, like Environmental and Social Justice which to them means a belief in anthropogenic CO2 as the cause of climate change and the need to get rid of anything and everything that produces CO2. A belief in zero tolerance for pollution (eg., any amount of any type of pollution = bad). A belief in wealth redistribution. A belief in racial and gender equity based on sex and skin color regardless of ability. That is, the measure of justice and fairness in anything is how closely it hews to the gender and racial makeup of society.
Woke also means a belief that Socialism is not only good, but necessary and better than other economic systems because it is "fair."
The woke believe in equal outcomes, not equal opportunity.
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According to Ron DeSantis' AG, woke is “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

So do you disagree that there are systemic injustices in American society, or do you agree that there are but nothing should be done to address them?
 
LV426 said:
According to Ron DeSantis' AG, woke is “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

So do you disagree that there are systemic injustices in American society, or do you agree that there are but nothing should be done to address them?
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That's just listing a cause. The thing that really matters with the idea of 'Woke' is the solutions proposed to those problems, which is what I listed earlier (in part).
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's just listing a cause. The thing that really matters with the idea of 'Woke' is the solutions proposed to those problems, which is what I listed earlier (in part).
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Do you disagree that there are systemic injustices in American society, or do you agree that there are but nothing should be done to address them?
 
LV426 said:
Do you disagree that there are systemic injustices in American society, or do you agree that there are but nothing should be done to address them?
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There are some widespread injustices in America. "Systematic" implies 'universal,' and no, I don't there are universal injustices in America. Yes, they should be addressed, and that's where the problem with the concept of 'Woke' lies. Woke implies a specific set of preferred solutions to such problems, and I already listed some of these.
 
LV426 said:
What do you mean?
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Explained above.

You didn't list any solutions, you just listed your grievances.
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I did list solutions. For example, for the Woke climate change means elimination of all sources of manmade CO2. When it comes to pollution, for the Woke it means eliminating all pollution. That's two examples, I already gave a few others.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Explained above.



I did list solutions. For example, for the Woke climate change means elimination of all sources of manmade CO2. When it comes to pollution, for the Woke it means eliminating all pollution. That's two examples, I already gave a few others.
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Uh what? Pollution?
 
AProudLefty said:
Uh what? Pollution?
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Pollution is part of radical Leftist environmentalism and for the Woke it means having a zero tolerance mentality towards it. That is, all pollution is unacceptable and must be eradicated even if it means society suffers in some other way from that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Pollution is part of radical Leftist environmentalism and for the Woke it means having a zero tolerance mentality towards it. That is, all pollution is unacceptable and must be eradicated even if it means society suffers in some other way from that.
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All right. I am sure you don't mind us dumping our trash on your front yard. After all you hate the Left.
 
AProudLefty said:
All right. I am sure you don't mind us dumping our trash on your front yard. After all you hate the Left.
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That's nothing but a continuum fallacy. Just because I don't accept a zero tolerance towards pollution doesn't mean I don't want controls on pollution. You are making it an all-or-nothing proposition which it shouldn't be and that resulted in the fallacy you committed.

My position is that some pollution has to be accepted in order for a modern society to work. What we need to find is the optimal level of pollution, not the minimum or rejecting all solutions that don't involve removal of all pollution.
 
LV426 said:
You're a fucking pussy and you know it.

Just a big mouthed coward who hides behind the shadow of anonymity JPP provides you.

You would never ever act on any of the bullshit you say here, and I know that to be a fact because you've sat on your fat ass for the last 40 years and did nothing as the government overreached into people's personal lives.

Like a little fucking BITCH.

That's all you are...a LOSER.
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cry for me sweetie

:sadbaby:
 
LV426 said:
Woke was defined in court by your Nazi pals as “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

So do you disagree that there are systemic injustices in America?

Or do you agree there are systemic injustices, but disagree on addressing them?
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how many fallacies are you allowed to put in one question?
 
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