Shame On you, President Obama

Onceler said:
LOL

Here is what she was saying, on your own link:

"This morning on Meet the Press, Hillary Clinton defended her 2002 vote for the Iraq war resolution, saying that she "thought it was a vote to put inspectors back in" so Saddam Hussein could not go unchecked. She insisted that she and others were "told by the White House personally" that this was the purpose of the resolution, and cited President Bush's assurances to defend her position"

Yeah - that sounds like she was "lobbying for war."

Could you be any dumber? *shrug*
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were there any republicans that said this same thing? or did most non high profile politicians vote based on the wording of the actual resolution?
 
Onceler said:
LOL

Here is what she was saying, on your own link:

"This morning on Meet the Press, Hillary Clinton defended her 2002 vote for the Iraq war resolution, saying that she "thought it was a vote to put inspectors back in" so Saddam Hussein could not go unchecked. She insisted that she and others were "told by the White House personally" that this was the purpose of the resolution, and cited President Bush's assurances to defend her position"

Yeah - that sounds like she was "lobbying for war."

Could you be any dumber? *shrug*
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LOL Yes, a few years later she was making every exclude imaginable to justify what had now become an unpopular position with her base constituency... :)
 
SmarterThanYou said:
were there any republicans that said this same thing? or did most non high profile politicians vote based on the wording of the actual resolution?
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Dick Armey, for one.

If you read the speeches of a lot of politicians that day, they weren't talking about war; they were saying that they wanted to give the President a show of unity to force Saddam's hand on inspections, and if force was indeed necessary in the end, many spoke about things like limited airstrikes.

You can argue that they were naive & cowards, but to say that they were "lobbying for war?" Ludicrous.
 
DamnYankee said:
LOL Yes, a few years later she was making every exclude imaginable to justify what had now become an unpopular position with her base constituency... :)
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So, it shouldn't be too hard for you then to find any quote from a few years earlier where she is in fact "lobbying for war."
 
Onceler said:
Dick Armey, for one.

If you read the speeches of a lot of politicians that day, they weren't talking about war; they were saying that they wanted to give the President a show of unity to force Saddam's hand on inspections, and if force was indeed necessary in the end, many spoke about things like limited airstrikes.

You can argue that they were naive & cowards, but to say that they were "lobbying for war?" Ludicrous.
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naive and cowardly? yep. i'd also add foolhardy and stupid, but that's just me. anyone that would vote and approve a resolution that had that kind of language and expect that it would never actually happen should probably resign from any public office being held and stay hermits the rest of their lives.
 
Onceler said:
So, it shouldn't be too hard for you then to find any quote from a few years earlier where she is in fact "lobbying for war."
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LOL All three cited were leaders in their Party, in fact all three ran for POTUS. To suggest that they didn't influence the lesser party members is disingenuous at best.

*shrug*
 
DamnYankee said:
LOL All three cited were leaders in their Party, in fact all three ran for POTUS. To suggest that they didn't influence the lesser party members is disingenuous at best.

*shrug*
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Again - do you have even one quote from any of them that could be characterized as "lobbying for war"?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
do you have anything to prove that there was? anything that refutes the ISG report?
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Just common sense. Syria agreed to give us access to Iraq through their border, then at the last minute reneged. Convoys of trucks were then seen crossing that same border into Syria...
 
DamnYankee said:
Just common sense. Syria agreed to give us access to Iraq through their border, then at the last minute reneged. Convoys of trucks were then seen crossing that same border into Syria...
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They actually saw trucks driving on a road?

You're just a bastion of good facts today...
 
DamnYankee said:
Just common sense. Syria agreed to give us access to Iraq through their border, then at the last minute reneged. Convoys of trucks were then seen crossing that same border into Syria...
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just common sense.......because of a reneged promise and convoys of trucks? I think you need one of these.

office_space_kit_mat.jpg
 
SmarterThanYou said:
k.
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The CIA’s chief weapons inspector said he cannot rule out the possibility that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were secretly shipped to Syria before the March 2003 invasion, citing “sufficiently credible” evidence that WMDs may have been moved there...

But on the question of Syria, Mr. Duelfer did not close the books. “ISG was unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war,” Mr. Duelfer said in a report posted on the CIA’s Web site Monday night.

He cited some evidence of a transfer. “Whether Syria received military items from Iraq for safekeeping or other reasons has yet to be determined,” he said. “There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation.”

But Mr. Duelfer said he was unable to complete that aspect of the probe because “the declining security situation limited and finally halted this investigation. The results remain inconclusive, but further investigation may be undertaken when circumstances on the ground improve.”...

Speculation on WMDs in Syria was fueled by the fact that satellite images picked up long lines of trucks waiting to cross the border into Syria before the coalition launched the invasion. Mr. Duelfer previously had reported that Syria was a major conduit for materials entering Iraq that were banned by the United Nations.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/apr/27/20050427-121915-1667r/?page=all
 
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