Sexuality is not black or white. . .

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this is the crux of my argument. Its a choice, isn't it?

Typo, sorry. I think it is the crux, I was just clarifying. I fond your honesty refreshing. Most of the conservative men here will disagree with you if they comment at all.
 
Have you ever tried to get a hard on when you are with an unattractive woman, I have and found it impossible.

no, but I do recall once throwing up all over one when I had been too drunk to realize it before I got in bed with her.....talk about buzzkill.....
 
Typo, sorry. I think it is the crux, I was just clarifying. I fond your honesty refreshing. Most of the conservative men here will disagree with you if they comment at all.

Not sure if trolling or just not getting it . . .
 
Without being to personal, think about this.

Most people cannot masturbate to orgasm without fantasy.
 
That may be.

Yours is an honest and understandable coherent argument worthy of merit. I don't agree because personally, without certain attraction I cannot have an orgasm or erection. In fact, if I want to delay an orgasm, there are certain women I only have to picture in my mind and I can delay all I want.
 
So, you were born heterosexual. Never had a choice, correct?

don't recall ever being inclined to make one.....I still remember the first time I became sexually aware......it was my third/fourth grade teacher and she like to wear scoop necked blouses...I had a male teacher in fifth/sixth grade.....not alluring at all.....
 
My kindergarten teacher wore bloomers, and during story time I would look up them and wonder what was there.
 
My kindergarten teacher wore bloomers, and during story time I would look up them and wonder what was there.

I might have had an earlier awakening if my kindergarten teacher hadn't been in her 60s.......what I remember best about kindergarten was learning how to lie......

we had this chart and each kid had a toy plastic truck and if you slept during nap time you got to advance your truck one space.....when you got to the finish line you got to take the truck home.....I finally learned how to look my teacher in the eye and say "yes, I fell asleep".......I don't know if she believed me, but I got my truck.....fortunately I learned that if I laid my mat down in the corner I could hear the first/second graders having story time if I put my head next to the cold air return.....that way I could spend the whole time not fidgeting.....
 
You don't think that men who fathered children later go on to have relationships with other men?

That is not the nonsense. The nonsense is your pretending a gay man could not be aroused enough to get a woman pregnant. At the height of homophobia, many men (and women) were in fake 'normal' relationships because they did not want to be ostracized. They wanted to 'fit in'.
 
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