severe western drought

Cypress said:
In the 21st century, the GOP has held the White House 55 percent of the time, and controlled the House of Reps and Senate ~65 percent of the time.

So in the 21st century, we have largely been living with GOP climate (non)- policies.


Just talking about emissions is both naive, and mathematically incorrect.

Carbon is a mass balance problem; a quantitative summation of emissions and carbon sinks. The goal in carbon neutrality, or net zero emissions. You can't talk just about emissions because that ignores 50 percent of the math needed for mass balance.
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Lisps the guy adding to carbon emissions typing on the internet. You fucking lefties all talk shit. That is all you do, talk. And do nothing about it.
 
Cypress said:
In the 21st century, the GOP has held the White House 55 percent of the time, and controlled the House of Reps and Senate ~65 percent of the time.

So in the 21st century, we have largely been living with GOP climate (non)- policies.


Just talking about emissions is both naive, and mathematically incorrect.

Carbon is a mass balance problem; a quantitative summation of emissions and carbon sinks. The goal in carbon neutrality, or net zero emissions. You can't talk just about emissions because that ignores 50 percent of the math needed for mass balance.
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are you a real dead head, or a phony?

you see, even this group you want us to believe you belong to is a symptom of America's excess. travelling the countryside in pursuit of hedonism as you listen to live music from region to region - only in America where we use our vast resources to keep fuel cheap and we export depreciating dollars and import cheap slave labor - so 3rd world nations can help pay for our programs - all things democrats love - but all at odds with your claim of caring about global warming

you are a fraud. a charlatan. probably just too dumb to even know it though
 
zymurgy said:
are you a real dead head, or a phony?

you see, even this group you want us to believe you belong to is a symptom of America's excess. travelling the countryside in pursuit of hedonism as you listen to live music from region to region - only in America where we use our vast resources to keep fuel cheap and we export depreciating dollars and import cheap slave labor - so 3rd world nations can help pay for our programs - all things democrats love - but all at odds with your claim of caring about global warming

you are a fraud. a charlatan. probably just too dumb to even know it though
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That's a lot of words to say nothing of any substance.
 
Cypress said:
That's a lot of words to say nothing of any substance.
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you ever heard of playing in the sand?

Deadheads live such a life of excess, they booked two straight Mexican weekends - flying down - living it up in all inclusive resort no Mexican worker could ever dream of affording - so you can listen to a bunch of has beens play Jerry Garcia's music

and of course, those neo hippies think they are gonna be the solution to global warming too. :laugh:
 
zymurgy said:
you ever heard of playing in the sand?

Deadheads live such a life of excess, they booked two straight Mexican weekends - flying down - living it up in all inclusive resort no Mexican worker could ever dream of affording - so you can listen to a bunch of has beens play Jerry Garcia's music

and of course, those neo hippies think they are gonna be the solution to global warming too. :laugh:
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You have run out of ideas, substance, and credibility when all your mind can think up are flaccid and mediocre insults.

I leave you to giggle at your own tepid jokes.
 
Cypress said:
Virtually every river is damned in California, and virtually all the prime locations for dam construction were developed decades ago.

These days it's usually only morons who demand more dams be built. A significant fraction of water in reservoirs is lost to evaporation. That's water lost which cannot be used.

Groundwater banking is typically the current management strategy. Managed recharge of groundwater basins prevents the evaporation of water, and doesn't require expensive dams be built.
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A long-delayed plan to build a giant reservoir in Northern California to help withstand the U.S. West’s notorious droughts got a huge financial boost on Thursday when the federal government signaled its intent to loan the project nearly $2.2 billion - about half of the cost to design, plan and build it.

The proposal would flood what's left of the town of Sites, a tiny community with just a handful of residents nestled in a valley of the coastal range mountains in rural Colusa County. The idea has been around since the 1950s, but there has never been enough money or political will to move it forward.
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https://www.kcra.com/article/big-ne...-track-for-large-federal-loan-sites/39465488#
 
Cypress said:
You have run out of ideas, substance, and credibility when all your mind can think up are flaccid and mediocre insults.

I leave you to giggle at your own tepid jokes.
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running from a debate. big shock

I pointed out Americans over consumed. I listed a group you claim to be a part of - that travels all over the world to listen to rock music - even flying to México and living it up at posh 5 star resorts as a symptom of this excess lifestyle

why? because we pump steroids into the economy so idiot progressives can fight a war on poverty and buy votes from jealous class warfare advocates - then jet around the country consuming alcohol and drugs and listening to rock music
 
zymurgy said:
running from a debate. big shock

I pointed out Americans over consumed. I listed a group you claim to be a part of - that travels all over the world to listen to rock music - even flying to México and living it up at posh 5 star resorts as a symptom of this excess lifestyle

why? because we pump steroids into the economy so idiot progressives can fight a war on poverty and buy votes from jealous class warfare advocates - then jet around the country consuming alcohol and drugs and listening to rock music
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Your claims are not mathematically credible because they ignore mass balance.

Your assumptions about me bear no resemblance to the truth.

I assume you are fresh out of ideas and substance, and are left to giggling like a school girl at your own flaccid jokes concerning dirty hippies.
 
Cypress said:
Your claims are not mathematically credible because they ignore mass balance.

Your assumptions about me bear no resemblance to the truth.

I assume you are fresh out of ideas and substance, and are left to giggling like a school girl at your own flaccid jokes concerning dirty hippies.
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this is called projection. you think the wealthy live too well - and we need to redistribute wealth. this is a failed math position for you. I have already explained it - and you ran from it.

So here it is Again

With less than 5 percent of world population, the U.S. uses one-third of the world's paper, a quarter of the world's oil, 23 percent of the coal, 27 percent of the aluminum, and 19 percent of the copper

What happens when we take from the few and give to the many? We all know what happens, they consume more. instead of saving and investing - we consume. more oil. more paper. more aluminum. more copper.

you have zero solutions because we are where we are because of your failed solutions already.
 
zymurgy said:
this is called projection. you think the wealthy live too well - and we need to redistribute wealth. this is a failed math position for you. I have already explained it - and you ran from it.

So here it is Again

With less than 5 percent of world population, the U.S. uses one-third of the world's paper, a quarter of the world's oil, 23 percent of the coal, 27 percent of the aluminum, and 19 percent of the copper

What happens when we take from the few and give to the many? We all know what happens, they consume more. instead of saving and investing - we consume. more oil. more paper. more aluminum. more copper.

you have zero solutions because we are where we are because of your failed solutions already.
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New York, California, Vermont, Washington DC, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Oregon, Rhode Island have the lowest carbon footprints per Capita in the nation.

It's time for carbon emission policy in conservative states to catch up with these liberal states.


https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/us-states-by-carbon-dioxide-emissions-per-capita.html
 
Its not that there are no sensible water storage projects to be built in the West, the problem is that it is almost impossible to build them. The reason is the courts wont allow them, in part because fish come first now. Not only can we not build new ones but there is huge pressure to remove dams for the good of the fish in the rivers. I heard VDH say the other week that 80% of the water is sent to the ocean via the Sacramento Delta instead of retained for human use in order to keep the fish happy. This is full on insane.

What is not understood yet is the result of our failure to manage water supplies for the good of humans will mean that starting now we will lose huge amounts of very productive California farmland due to lack of water. All of America will be greatly harmed.
 
BartenderElite said:
The earth keeps trying to talk to us.

I wish the species waiting to act until it's too late wasn't so predictable.
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Unfortunately, you are correct, those swallowing the propaganda put out by those who gain from doing nothing will never admit their false pardigm is bogus
 
A mass migration back to the Rust Belt is expected to flee the heat in the very near future. Zoomer who can't afford a car or house will relocate to cities like Clevland and Buffalo where the Great Lakes are protected from climate change and already have public transportation and shared housing.
 
goat said:
A mass migration back to the Rust Belt is expected to flee the heat in the very near future. Zoomer who can't afford a car or house will relocate to cities like Clevland and Buffalo where the Great Lakes are protected from climate change and already have public transportation and shared housing.
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And generally a fleeing of the dystopian dying coastal cities, back to rural and exurbs or whatever they call the boundary between rural and urban.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Its not that there are no sensible water storage projects to be built in the West, the problem is that it is almost impossible to build them. The reason is the courts wont allow them, in part because fish come first now. Not only can we not build new ones but there is huge pressure to remove dams for the good of the fish in the rivers. I heard VDH say the other week that 80% of the water is sent to the ocean via the Sacramento Delta instead of retained for human use in order to keep the fish happy. This is full on insane.

What is not understood yet is the result of our failure to manage water supplies for the good of humans will mean that starting now we will lose huge amounts of very productive California farmland due to lack of water. All of America will be greatly harmed.
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Already happened.
 
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