Serious Question: Was the Killing of the US Ambassador in Libya Morally Justifiable?

blackascoal said:
I would want to kill someone who raped and murdered my daughter .. or who was responsible for it.

The morality of it would be an after-thought.
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I would simply do it, even knowing that it isn't really justified by my own moral standards. I'll take my consequences.

However, the Ambassador had nothing to do with any rapine. He simply didn't.
 
Lowaicue said:
Would American troops shoot to kill their own people?
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Yes

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Damocles said:
I would simply do it, even knowing that it isn't really justified by my own moral standards. I'll take my consequences.

However, the Ambassador had nothing to do with any rapine. He simply didn't.
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I would do it as well and anybody who was responsible.

Stevens assisted the terrorists who committed all manner of ungodly atrocities. I have video evidence of many of those atrocities .. most of it too disturbing to even post on this site.

"Images of the Ambassador being dragged through the streets of Benghazi are the product of a stark reality that the general public must recognize – one that is absent of the romance and fervor of televised “revolutions.” For Ambassador Stevens, an early proponent of the no-fly zone and a staunch supporter of NATO’s campaign in Libya, the untimely death he was dealt came delivered by the very militants he enabled in brazen."

We're doing the same thing in Syria.

C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/w...rms-to-syrian-rebels.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

There is a cost to the evil we do .. and sometimes it's the people in the field who do the paying.
 
We're doing the same thing in Syria ..


Why no questions about why are we using Al Queda to forment violence and murder innocent people?
 
Disillusioned said:
How about the person you thought murdered your daughter? Not really, but you just thought they did? Is that justified?
That's why we have the courts system because people up close can't think strait. I have no problem with the death penalty but you have to have distance.
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see, I applied this question in regards to a convicted pedophile/murderer in prison being killed by other inmates and nobody seemed to give a damn other than to say 'good job'. we've already seen numerous cases where 12 idiots on a jury will swallow anything a cop or prosecutor tells them, so why should a parent be any different by enacting justice?

what would you say if there was actual video evidence of the rape and murder? would it then be justified?
 
Damocles said:
There is a reason we have laws against vigilantism, vengeance has little to do with justice. Getting angry at an Ambassador because of crimes committed by another, how is it justified to kill somebody who didn't rape your daughter because your daughter was raped?
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I think I said 'the person that raped and murdered your daughter', not 'the brother of the person that raped and murdered your daughter'. Now, I realize that for alot of people that distinction is difficult to make, but i'm quite capable of it.
 
blackascoal said:
I know, all murder is bad.

That being said .. imagine if America had been attacked and destroyed by a foreign government.

Would the agents of that government who assisted the band of terrorists who destroyed the country and committed unspeakable acts of violence, beheadings, rape, murder and genocide .. would those agents be legitimate targets of American retaliation?
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there is no such thing as objective morality. the only thing that matters is ones own self interest and how it benefits themselves.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Why is the US sending drones after AQ if they are backing them?
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That's a really good question.

There is no doubt that we are backing them.

There is no doubt that we are sending drones .. at 20 million a pop .. after so-called terrorists.

So the question is, after the longest war in American history spent chasing the ghosts of Al Queda .. spending more than a trillion dollars doing it to supposedly avenge 9/11 which Al Queda was accused of doing .. how are we in bed with them and how did Al Queda get stronger?
 
I just wnt to bake cookies and sing kumbya!

Let there be peace on Earth and let it begin with me.

One of the most memorable acts I have seen in my life time was my friend standing up in court and telling the person who murdered her son that forgave him. It was her only son. I strive in my life to be as good, I miss the mark at times, but I still strive.
 
annata said:
Yes. gov't on gov't. if a foeign gov't did what we did to Libya, you KNOW we'd be doing the revenge/justice thing.
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The OP is based on a false premise. No govt. attacked Libya.

What EXACTLY did the US do to the govt. of Libya?
 
blackascoal said:
How about killing Bin Laden?

Was that justified?

How about killing Americans without trial?

Is that justified?
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For me the answer is no. I believe everyone deserves a day in court no matter how loathsome and murderous they are. And if thugs like bin Laden, Saddam, etc. are found guilty, lock them up and throw away the key.
 
blackascoal said:
Obviously you haven't been keeping up.

NATO and the US attacked Libya and we used Al Queda to do the ground work.
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Oh, I was keeping up when the uprising began.

The timeline of the uprising, subsequent UN security counsel resolution, and NATO's actions are much more complex than your generalized OP.

Libya was the home base for Al Qaeda for a very long time.

You make it sound like we gave our AQ buddies a call, and told them there's a hoedown in Libya.
 
Lowaicue said:
Would your government be able to stop an angry mob?Would American troops shoot to kill their own people?

But, to the question. Since all killing is immoral then the question doesn't really work, but to allow some latitude, no. no. no. killing was not justifiable under any circumstances. That is not to say that we should not try to understand it.
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"Would American troops shoot to kill their own people?"

The entire world knows that your Chinese masters have no problem in killing their own people. Hell, they'll even run over them with tanks.
 
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