Senator Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war

[Cypress]

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war​

Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday of pulling President Donald Trump into the war with Iran during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," as the president returned from a China summit without Beijing making a specific commitment to help broker an end to the conflict.

"The president got dragged into this war. Prime Minister Netanyahu said that he’d been waiting 40 years for somebody to go to war with him in Iran. He found a president stupid enough to do it," he said. "I blame Donald Trump for that decision, but here we are."

Van Hollen said the U.S. does not need China to end the fighting, arguing that Trump could stop the war by changing course.

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war

Sen. Chris Van Hollen accuses Netanyahu of finding a president willing to go to war with Iran, calling on Trump to change course and stop fighting.

www.foxnews.com

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

He is correct.

Has the bronzed buffoon declared this senator a treasonous traitor yet?

 

[Cypress]

For Netanyahu, successfully persuading Trump to strike Iran together is the apex of decades of proximity between the Israeli leader and Washington.

Netanyahu said in a statement that the U.S. involvement “allows us to do what I have been hoping to do for 40 years — to deliver a crushing blow to the terror regime.”

Netanyahu takes a gamble on American support for Israel with the war against Iran

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has steered his country along two pillars of foreign policy throughout his political career.

www.news4jax.com

 

[CasualLurker]

For Netanyahu, successfully persuading Trump to strike Iran together is the apex of decades of proximity between the Israeli leader and Washington.

Netanyahu said in a statement that the U.S. involvement “allows us to do what I have been hoping to do for 40 years — to deliver a crushing blow to the terror regime.”

Netanyahu takes a gamble on American support for Israel with the war against Iran

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has steered his country along two pillars of foreign policy throughout his political career.

www.news4jax.com

The only thing that I'd interject is that I have a hard time acknowledging that the original PLO and of all the following jihadist Muslim organizations, Sunni or Shiite, Arab or Persian, are not obviously in fact full-blown terrorist in nature. Do you honestly believe that the October attack that started this latest round of hostilities wasn't sufficient cause for launching a war of genocide? How much were the Israeli Jews supposed to endure?

Also, after the Shiite Iran hostage incident in the late seventies and the Sunni Arabic attacks of 9/11/01, how much are WE supposed to tolerate.

This globe isn't that big, and we definitely have totally incompatible people trying to live on it. Let's not be naive about what's possible and what's not. If people can't live together, they're going to do something about it. No civilization is going to survive for eternity. No civilization has thus far deserved to.

 

[Cypress]

How much were the Israeli Jews supposed to endure?

Israel has a right to self defense and to attack Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah wherever they see fit.
The United States military shouldn't be going to war on behalf of Israel.

Also, after the Shiite Iran hostage incident in the late seventies

Ancient history. We don't start or justify wars based on what happened 50 years ago. Otherwise we could find ourselves getting into wars with North Korea, China, Russia.

and the Sunni Arabic attacks of 9/11/01,

The Sunni radicals of Al Qaeda have nothing to do with Iran, and can probably be considered to be rivals of the Shiite regime.

We went to war after 9/11, I'm not sure why you are implying we withheld our punches.

how much are WE supposed to tolerate.

The war against Al Qaeda and it's affiliates had widespread bipartisan support.

 

[martin]

The only thing that I'd interject is that I have a hard time acknowledging that the original PLO and of all the following jihadist Muslim organizations, Sunni or Shiite, Arab or Persian, are not obviously in fact full-blown terrorist in nature. Do you honestly believe that the October attack that started this latest round of hostilities wasn't sufficient cause for launching a war of genocide? How much were the Israeli Jews supposed to endure?

Assuming this is not a serious question, merely an aside in poor taste

 

[Into the Night]

Israel has a right to self defense and to attack Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah wherever they see fit.
The United States military shouldn't be going to war on behalf of Israel.

They didn't.

Ancient history. We don't start or justify wars based on what happened 50 years ago.

Sure we do. The War of Secession, for example, was based on ending slavery in the United States, a practice that went on for thousands of years.

Otherwise we could find ourselves getting into wars with North Korea, China, Russia.

If North Korea decides to bomb a treaty ally, we will go into war against them.
If China decides to take over the Philippines or Taiwan, we will go to war against them.
If Russia decides to bomb a treaty ally, we will go to war against them.

Some of these treaties are older than 50 years.

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

They didn't.

Sure we do. The War of Secession, for example, was based on ending slavery in the United States, a practice that went on for thousands of years.

If North Korea decides to bomb a treaty ally, we will go into war against them.
If China decides to take over the Philippines or Taiwan, we will go to war against them.
If Russia decides to bomb a treaty ally, we will go to war against them.

Some of these treaties are older than 50 years.

America's commitments are worthless.

• May 14, 2026 — Trump meets Xi in Beijing; during the summit he tells reporters he was asked by Xi whether the U.S. would defend Taiwan and says he “doesn’t talk about that.” He also tells Fox News he’s “not looking to have somebody go independent” and warns Taiwan not to expect a “blank check” of U.S. military backing.
• May 15, 2026 — White House commentary and administration signals remain ambiguous about approving a pending ~$14 billion arms package for Taiwan; Trump says “I may do it. I may not do it.” Media coverage frames this as a refusal to give a clear defense commitment.
• May 15–16, 2026 — Congressional leaders and some Taiwan-supporting lawmakers publicly criticize the administration’s language as increasing unpredictability; commentators warn allies the comments could be seen as a retreat from traditional deterrent signaling. (Statements and reaction coverage in U.S. press.)
• May 16–17, 2026 — Regional and allied analysts (commentary cited in reporting) warn that explicit reluctance to promise military backing, combined with delay on arms-sales approvals, could embolden Beijing or unsettle partners who rely on consistent U.S. deterrence signals.

The Taiwan Relations Act (1979) is U.S. domestic law that (a) commits the U.S. to provide Taiwan with defensive arms and (b) says U.S. policy is to consider any non‑peaceful means to determine Taiwan’s future a matter of “grave concern.”

Trump's ambiguity undermines this.

 

[CasualLurker]

Assuming this is not a serious question, merely an aside in poor taste

It's indeed a serious question, but that's just the way that I think. I'm not hopeful for co-existence. I'm not at all sure that either side wants it. I very much doubt that they do.

 

[Crepitus]

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war​

Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday of pulling President Donald Trump into the war with Iran during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," as the president returned from a China summit without Beijing making a specific commitment to help broker an end to the conflict.

"The president got dragged into this war. Prime Minister Netanyahu said that he’d been waiting 40 years for somebody to go to war with him in Iran. He found a president stupid enough to do it," he said. "I blame Donald Trump for that decision, but here we are."

Van Hollen said the U.S. does not need China to end the fighting, arguing that Trump could stop the war by changing course.

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war

Sen. Chris Van Hollen accuses Netanyahu of finding a president willing to go to war with Iran, calling on Trump to change course and stop fighting.

www.foxnews.com

Pretty sure tRump has already admitted that hasn't he?

 

[CasualLurker]

All goof

Israel has a right to self defense and to attack Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah wherever they see fit.
The United States military shouldn't be going to war on behalf of Israel.

Ancient history. We don't start or justify wars based on what happened 50 years ago. Otherwise we could find ourselves getting into wars with North Korea, China, Russia.

The Sunni radicals of Al Qaeda have nothing to do with Iran, and can probably be considered to be rivals of the Shiite regime.

We went to war after 9/11, I'm not sure why you are implying we withheld our punches.

The war against Al Qaeda and it's affiliates had widespread bipartisan support.

All valid points, but I see nothing about which to be optimistic. The only way to avoid world war seems to be capitulation. Do we really want to lose the war without even fighting it? I don't think that there's consensus on this.

 

[Noking]

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war​

Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday of pulling President Donald Trump into the war with Iran during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," as the president returned from a China summit without Beijing making a specific commitment to help broker an end to the conflict.

"The president got dragged into this war. Prime Minister Netanyahu said that he’d been waiting 40 years for somebody to go to war with him in Iran. He found a president stupid enough to do it," he said. "I blame Donald Trump for that decision, but here we are."

Van Hollen said the U.S. does not need China to end the fighting, arguing that Trump could stop the war by changing course.

Van Hollen argues Netanyahu found Trump ‘stupid enough’ to drag him into Iran war

Sen. Chris Van Hollen accuses Netanyahu of finding a president willing to go to war with Iran, calling on Trump to change course and stop fighting.

www.foxnews.com

A little flatterer goes a long ways with narcissistic Trump.

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

Pretty sure tRump has already admitted that hasn't he?

Yes, he has.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Much like arguing that water is wet......

 

[Into the Night]

America's commitments are worthless.

• May 14, 2026 — Trump meets Xi in Beijing; during the summit he tells reporters he was asked by Xi whether the U.S. would defend Taiwan and says he “doesn’t talk about that.” He also tells Fox News he’s “not looking to have somebody go independent” and warns Taiwan not to expect a “blank check” of U.S. military backing.
• May 15, 2026 — White House commentary and administration signals remain ambiguous about approving a pending ~$14 billion arms package for Taiwan; Trump says “I may do it. I may not do it.” Media coverage frames this as a refusal to give a clear defense commitment.
• May 15–16, 2026 — Congressional leaders and some Taiwan-supporting lawmakers publicly criticize the administration’s language as increasing unpredictability; commentators warn allies the comments could be seen as a retreat from traditional deterrent signaling. (Statements and reaction coverage in U.S. press.)
• May 16–17, 2026 — Regional and allied analysts (commentary cited in reporting) warn that explicit reluctance to promise military backing, combined with delay on arms-sales approvals, could embolden Beijing or unsettle partners who rely on consistent U.S. deterrence signals.

The Taiwan Relations Act (1979) is U.S. domestic law that (a) commits the U.S. to provide Taiwan with defensive arms and (b) says U.S. policy is to consider any non‑peaceful means to determine Taiwan’s future a matter of “grave concern.”

Trump's ambiguity undermines this.

Lie. Synthesis.

 

[Into the Night]

Pretty sure tRump has already admitted that hasn't he?

Lie. Synthesis.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, he has.

Lie. Synthesis.

 

[Into the Night]

Much like arguing that water is wet......

You are already a slave to your fears.

 

[Nomad]

The only thing that I'd interject is that I have a hard time acknowledging that the original PLO and of all the following jihadist Muslim organizations, Sunni or Shiite, Arab or Persian, are not obviously in fact full-blown terrorist in nature. Do you honestly believe that the October attack that started this latest round of hostilities wasn't sufficient cause for launching a war of genocide? How much were the Israeli Jews supposed to endure?

Assuming this is not a serious question, merely an aside in poor taste

It's indeed a serious question, but that's just the way that I think. I'm not hopeful for co-existence. I'm not at all sure that either side wants it. I very much doubt that they do.

The question is how and WHY did the Israelis ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN?

Israel has the best intelligence apparatus in the world. It's my understanding they knew something was in the works. It's not beyond the realm of imagination to consider the possibility that they allowed it to happen on purpose to give them an excuse to do what they'd been wanting to do.

It wouldn't be the first time Israel turned a blind eye to an attack they knew was iminent and which resulted in tragedy.

Explainer: The Sabra & Shatila Massacre

The Sabra & Shatila massacre was a brutal slaughter of Palestinian refugees in 1982, carried out by Israel’s proxy militia. Learn what happened and why it matters.

imeu.org

 

[QP!]

...Netanyahu said in a statement that the U.S. involvement “allows us to do what I have been hoping to do for 40 years — to deliver a crushing blow to the terror regime.”...

^ that is obviously true and admitted to by Netanyahu, Trump and Rubio before they realized it made Trump look weak and they then pivoted to a new reason which they have been media testing hoping something sticks and works and makes the American people accept the reasoning for it:

- Supporting regime change / freeing the Iranian people
- Responding to Iranian repression of protesters
- Protecting U.S. forces from an anticipated Iranian retaliation re an expected Israel attack
- Stopping Iran’s support for proxy militant groups
- Regime-change
- Not a regime-change war
- Destroying Iran’s navy
- Destroying Iran’s ballistic missile capabilities
- Preventing a broader regional or global war
- Maintaining global peace and stability
- Preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon