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Lets see.... today she has called me a racist, a sexist, a war monger and stated I suffer from mad cow disease...
yeah, that was out of line for me to say. I see your point.
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Lets see.... today she has called me a racist, a sexist, a war monger and stated I suffer from mad cow disease...
yeah, that was out of line for me to say. I see your point.
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Really? Is it really more BS than saying that McCain wants to invade Iran because of that stupid diddy he sang? Not even close. I notce you don't care when obvious BS shows up on a side you "support" regardless of how preposterous.
They both spoke of attacking in the borders of another nation that we are not currently at war with, without their permission. If that isn't invasion, what is?
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So which candidate do you believe DIDN'T state it? Obama or Clinton?
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McCain sang of bombing Iran. Obama spoke of bombing Pakistan. I think Dungheap is speaking of the difference in saying invading vs. bombing.
No, because they have given permission for limited forays. However, that was not what they spoke of. Both advocated doing this without permission and actually adding troops to the attacks. It is disingenuous to pretend that the song was a position statement, but then ignore the actual words of the candidates you support.
The only BS so far is yours.
One more time. Link to one statement that states directly that he wants to invade Iran other than the idiotic song that was clearly not a Mission Statement, Plan or even a "Wish" to invade Iran.
Obama spoke of striking al qaeda santuaries in pakistan if there was actionable intelligence. He didn't say a word about "bombing pakistan".
Do you think and american president should try to kill or capture the people who attacked us on 9/11?
I disagree, strongly, with any idea of sending any troops into Pakistan - it will be a disaster. I remember Obama saying something about that, in relation to someone like Osama Bin Laden. I don't think it's a good idea.
But, I don't think Obama ever said he was going to "bomb Pakistan".
As well as the difference between bombing specific non-governmental targets operating in a country versus bombing the infrastructure of the country itself.
Obama and Clinton restated current US policy with respect to Al Qaeda operating in Pakistan and their willingness to continue that policy by attacking Al Qaeda operatives inside Pakistan without prior approval from the Pakistani government.
McCain, on the other hand, in response to a question about "sending an airmail message to Tehran" responding by singing "bomb, bomb, Iran."
If you can't distinguish between the two I don't know what to tell you.
Too bad Pakistan doesn't have the ability to miss things like that:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3443258&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Pakistan criticized U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes against terrorists hiding in this Islamic country.
Top Pakistan officials said Obama's comment was irresponsible and likely made for political gain in the race for the Democratic nomination.
More at link...
So your point is that the Musharraf government was upset that Obama reiterated the current US policy that Musharraf has said he disagrees with? There's a surprise.
He said in a debate that he would bomb Iran if intelligence showed they were a threat to Israel - because that's our job you know, ensuring Israel's safety with our blood and our billions.
Quit acting like you don't know what McCain's position is, or that It is far to the right of Obama’s on Iran.
You pretend as if that was where it stopped. That the "No, really... We must show restraint..." et al. wasn't there.
The song was clearly not a Position Statement and it is far more readily apparent that one statement actually supported military action in another nation without approval of that nation's government while the other spoke of diplomatic means to get the job done, while starting with an idiotic parody.
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So two will bomb Pakistani territory without authority from the Pakistani government.... and THAT is ok.
But someone singing a song about dropping bombs on Iran is bad... I suppose if you continue to believe the spin and ignore what Damo has posted repeatedly on this thread...yeah that is REAALLLLLY bad.
Yeah, I think it is quite easy to distinguish between the two.
You clearly don't know McCain's position on Iran. You think it is one line of a Parody song remembered from the 70s taken out of context without the actual answer to the question presented.
if your so concerned about bellicose statements that inflame the muslim world, why did you vote for bush and defend McCain? They have, and will do, orders more magnitude of damage to our relations in the muslim world than obama ever has
LOL.
I'd be embarrassed too if all the evidence I had was one line of a silly parody song from the 70s that preceded a responsible response on diplomatic efforts.