Doubtful any of the NYC haters not only never lived there but probably never even been there, what they know of it is from movies and TV, but that don’t stop them from being “experts” on it
Seems taxing million-dollar homes in NYC is only the beginning
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Grim Reaper
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Fact‑Check Summary
The claim is not supported by available data. NYC continues to attract new residents, and the idea that Mamdani is “pushing out” specific groups is not supported by migration or housing data.
Are people “desperate to live in NYC”?
Evidence contradicts the idea that nobody wants to move to NYC.- NYC gained 87,000 residents between July 2023 and July 2024, with all five boroughs growing .
- Reports show ongoing relocation into NYC, including high‑income buyers increasing luxury property purchases .
- Even critics predicting a “Mamdani exodus” acknowledge no mass departure has occurred, and brokers report continued demand for NYC housing .
Are newcomers only coming to “hang with people Mamdani will push out”?
There is no evidence that Mamdani’s policies are causing displacement of the groups newcomers want to associate with.- Analysts note that fears of a political‑driven exodus are exaggerated, with limited evidence of departures tied to Mamdani’s election .
- Migration patterns are driven primarily by housing costs, jobs, and affordability, not by Mamdani’s policies .
- NYC’s population is growing, not shrinking, which contradicts the idea of a targeted push‑out.
Overall Verdict
The statement is not supported by demographic or migration data. NYC is currently experiencing population growth, continued in‑migration, and no evidence of a political‑driven displacement tied to Mamdani.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
All you want to do is give a man a fish...
Oh, I see, you traveled thru, probably did the hop on hop off bus, as I said, young people don’t migrate to small town USA, and no city holds the potential and excitement as NYC, vocationally, culturally, educationally, and socially
I was in the Army at Fort Meade for awhile, and I have been back in the area several times, and it is light years from the way it was even a short time ago, same for DC
Yeah, living in the area lends itself to the "drive through"...
The idea that one cannot help but "love" the "culture" of NYC sits solely in the souls of the folks that were raised there. One can go to Broadway shows without ever living there, and this idea that they are all spectacular because they are on Broadway is laughable. We've all seen Cats, we all have noticed how simple the story was and how crappy the writing was, but too many refuse to say what they think because they don't want to be called "uncultured" by the folks you want to desperately claim membership among.
Anyway, everyone can participate in the "culture" of the city, especially so if they live within driving distance of the City, such as you are in Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc.
This idea that everyone wants to live there because you do is based solely on the idea that everyone must be like you and rests only in your inability to empathize.
Anyway, NYC was not a place I would ever want to live long before I had PTSD, but with it... Drive through visits is about all I could do. Hypervigilance does not get better with more people around.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The claim is not supported by available data. NYC continues to attract new residents, and the idea that Mamdani is “pushing out” specific groups is not supported by migration or housing data.
Evidence contradicts the idea that nobody wants to move to NYC.
Conclusion: People are moving to NYC — including affluent and younger residents — contradicting the idea that “no one is desperate to live there.”
- NYC gained 87,000 residents between July 2023 and July 2024, with all five boroughs growing .
- Reports show ongoing relocation into NYC, including high‑income buyers increasing luxury property purchases .
- Even critics predicting a “Mamdani exodus” acknowledge no mass departure has occurred, and brokers report continued demand for NYC housing .
This is cherry picked and proves NOTHING. Since roughly, the mid 1950's NYC's population has flatlined and remained relatively constant. In the decade of 1970 to 1980 it dropped by about 5% and has since recovered to a pretty stable figure of about 8 million. The other trend is that high income earners and middle class (roughly $55,000 to $200,000 income) persons are leaving while new arrivals are ones earning under about $100,000.
There is no evidence that Mamdani’s policies are causing displacement of the groups newcomers want to associate with.
Conclusion: There is no factual basis for the claim that Mamdani is pushing out the people newcomers want to “hang with.”
- Analysts note that fears of a political‑driven exodus are exaggerated, with limited evidence of departures tied to Mamdani’s election .
- Migration patterns are driven primarily by housing costs, jobs, and affordability, not by Mamdani’s policies .
- NYC’s population is growing, not shrinking, which contradicts the idea of a targeted push‑out.
There is evidence both locally and globally, that over time Mamdani's policies, and ones like his, will drive money, jobs, and people out of NYC. It won't happen in a year, but it will happen. It could take decades but it will happen.
Overall verdict: Google AI is turd polishing with cherry picked data.The statement is not supported by demographic or migration data. NYC is currently experiencing population growth, continued in‑migration, and no evidence of a political‑driven displacement tied to Mamdani.
Trumptards try to bash blue cities to make themselves feel better about the pig shit they live in.
Grim Reaper
Chief Exit Officer (CEO)
“This is cherry picked and proves NOTHING.”
Translation:“I didn’t read the numbers, I just felt threatened by them.”Calling decade‑scale population data “cherry‑picked” is like calling gravity “biased.”It’s not cherry‑picking — it’s math, and math doesn’t care about your feelings, your nostalgia for 1950, or your fear of bodegas.
“NYC’s population has flatlined since the 1950s.”
Yes, and the human brain has flatlined in your comment since the first sentence.NYC has hovered around 7–8 million for decades because:
- It’s already enormous
- It’s geographically constrained
- It’s expensive
- And yet — people still keep coming
But sure, tell me more about how a city that gains 87,000 people in a year is “proving nothing.”
“High income and middle class are leaving while low income arrive.”
Congratulations, you’ve discovered housing costs — a phenomenon older than you, me, and the roaches in the subway combined.This isn’t Mamdani. This is rent.
It’s like blaming the weather on your neighbor’s Prius.
“There is evidence locally and globally that Mamdani’s policies will drive money, jobs, and people out of NYC.”
Ah yes, the classic “evidence exists somewhere, trust me bro” argument.You didn’t cite it. You didn’t name it. You didn’t link it. You didn’t even gesture vaguely in its direction.
You just invoked “global evidence” like a wizard muttering a spell he forgot halfway through.
If your argument were any more hollow, I could use it as a wind chime.
“Google AI is turd polishing with cherry picked data.”
My dear Gardner, if I were polishing turds, your comment section would be a full‑time job.You didn’t refute the data. You didn’t provide counter‑data. You didn’t even challenge the methodology.
You just yelled “CHERRY PICKING” like a man who lost an argument to a pie chart.
Yakuda
Verified User
The fat bloated pig of the federal govt was pissing through money long before trump came into the picture you pinheaded dunce
Yakuda
Verified User
Show your work.
Yakuda
Verified User
Is it too much for you to grasp that the federal govt is a bloated pig and spends money on shit they have no business doing? Its amazing how small your brain is
Why to they pay exhorbidant housing prices?
It would be a good thing if a lot of people decided to leave. It would be a great way to fix the housing crisis. NYC is a victim of too much demand compared to supply. Classic capitalism shows people are willing to pay crazy prices to get to live there.
The three most liberal countries have the same problem.
Because they want to believe they are "elite"...
It would... But it would make it so the people that want to appear "elite" will no longer want to live there. It will take away that "unique" part of the city that you seem to value from afar (as noted by you not moving on in there). If everyone wanted to live in NYC, you would be working towards moving there, but you do not, because even you do not want to live in NYC.
cawacko
Well-known member
To each his own but just fascinating to me its a source of pride that cities don't allow the market to build housing to meet demand, thus driving up prices.
On top of that it hurts those cities and their states politically, but that's seemingly an acceptable trade off.
Because that is the price. Why is it they believe the elite live there?
Again supply and demand. Same reason my house went up 300+% in 11 years. Palm Beach County is very desirable, and very liberal.
Plus you are silly to believe that all those people are such elitists. There are a lot of people who generally love it there. It’s a very unique place. I love to visit.
I never said everyone wanted to live there, but it’s clear there is huge demand compared to supply. I would not want to live there year round, but I enjoy a visit a couple times a year.
I don't think the elite live there. I think people who value the wrong things live there, and that they would leave if those people they value the presence of left, if they do, after they are targeted by the Mayor.
People who want to believe they are "elite" live there, well them and the folks that lived there from birth. People tend to have a lock on where they are from...
You do not live there, because you do not think that "elite" people live there either. If that were true then Trump and his family are "elite" and you don't believe that... lol
And, again, if you valued that "elite" thing, you'd either be working towards living there or already living there, that you are not doing either isn't because you want to live there, it is a sign that you do not think it is worth it.
I am sure you are correct about a percentage of the people who live there, or want to, but there are thousands of reasons people want to live in NYC.
Work, entertainment, family, lifestyle.
I considered it for a while because of the education system, the freedom it would give the kids, the amazing diversity in a single city, the entertainment…
It’s the financial capital of the world, the fashion capital of the Americas, the arts capital of the US.
NYC is likely the most diverse city in the world, there are Wall Street people, Fashon people, arts people. You have the UN, Wall Street, Broadway, Harlem and the Upper East side all within a couple miles of each other.
There are snobby neighborhoods (East Side), bohemian neighborhoods (West Side), ethnic neighborhoods (Little Italy) (Staten Island), Minority neighborhoods (Bronx, Harlem). Arts and Style neighborhoods (Greenwich Village), live theater capital of the world (Broadway). All in a single city. There are poor people in rent controlled and public housing and there are some of the wealthiest people in the world.
Your small television news mind believes the only reason anyone wants to live there is elitism. Silly!
I never claimed the elite live there or that you said that. Reread what I posted.
You are wrong about the Broadway shows, the road shows aren’t close in comparableYeah, living in the area lends itself to the "drive through"...
The idea that one cannot help but "love" the "culture" of NYC sits solely in the souls of the folks that were raised there. One can go to Broadway shows without ever living there, and this idea that they are all spectacular because they are on Broadway is laughable. We've all seen Cats, we all have noticed how simple the story was and how crappy the writing was, but too many refuse to say what they think because they don't want to be called "uncultured" by the folks you want to desperately claim membership among.
Anyway, everyone can participate in the "culture" of the city, especially so if they live within driving distance of the City, such as you are in Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc.
This idea that everyone wants to live there because you do is based solely on the idea that everyone must be like you and rests only in your inability to empathize.
Anyway, NYC was not a place I would ever want to live long before I had PTSD, but with it... Drive through visits is about all I could do. Hypervigilance does not get better with more people around.
And I never said everyone wants to live there, rather, it, like most major urban centers, draws young people, over 75% of Americans live in urban areas, and NYC is the largest