Secret papers detail US aid for ex-Nazis

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On another thread George Soros is getting a real drubbing because of what he did as a 13-year old. Listening to beck, you'd think Soros was actually a collaborator herding innocent people to their deaths.

I wonder if beck is going to address this bombshell, or if he'll just ignore its existence. Liberals on this board and elsewhere are constantly being called America haters because we don't buy into the "my country right or wrong" mindset so cherished by conservatives. Well, wake up and smell the coffee already. It's evidence like this that make us suspicious of government, and disdainful of the blind nationalism peddled by those who make excuses for this country's actions that come suspiciously close to aiding and abetting our enemies.

Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says

WASHINGTON — A secret history of the United States government’s Nazi-hunting operation concludes that American intelligence officials created a “safe haven” in the United States for Nazis and their collaborators after World War II, and it details decades of clashes, often hidden, with other nations over war criminals here and abroad.
The 600-page report, which the Justice Department has tried to keep secret for four years, provides new evidence about more than two dozen of the most notorious Nazi cases of the last three decades.

It describes the government’s posthumous pursuit of Dr. Josef Mengele, the so-called Angel of Death at Auschwitz, part of whose scalp was kept in a Justice Department official’s drawer; the vigilante killing of a former Waffen SS soldier in New Jersey; and the government’s mistaken identification of the Treblinka concentration camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.

The report catalogs both the successes and failures of the band of lawyers, historians and investigators at the Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations, which was created in 1979 to deport Nazis...

Perhaps the report’s most damning disclosures come in assessing the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with Nazi émigrés. Scholars and previous government reports had acknowledged the C.I.A.’s use of Nazis for postwar intelligence purposes. But this report goes further in documenting the level of American complicity and deception in such operations.

The Justice Department report, describing what it calls “the government’s collaboration with persecutors,” says that O.S.I investigators learned that some of the Nazis “were indeed knowingly granted entry” to the United States, even though government officials were aware of their pasts. “America, which prided itself on being a safe haven for the persecuted, became — in some small measure — a safe haven for persecutors as well,” it said...

The Justice Department has resisted making the report public since 2006. Under the threat of a lawsuit, it turned over a heavily redacted version last month to a private research group, the National Security Archive, but even then many of the most legally and diplomatically sensitive portions were omitted. A complete version was obtained by The New York Times...

In chronicling the cases of Nazis who were aided by American intelligence officials, the report cites help that C.I.A. officials provided in 1954 to Otto Von Bolschwing, an associate of Adolf Eichmann who had helped develop the initial plans “to purge Germany of the Jews” and who later worked for the C.I.A. in the United States. In a chain of memos, C.I.A. officials debated what to do if Von Bolschwing were confronted about his past — whether to deny any Nazi affiliation or “explain it away on the basis of extenuating circumstances,” the report said...

The report also examines the case of Arthur L. Rudolph, a Nazi scientist who ran the Mittelwerk munitions factory. He was brought to the United States in 1945 for his rocket-making expertise under Operation Paperclip, an American program that recruited scientists who had worked in Nazi Germany. (Rudolph has been honored by NASA and is credited as the father of the Saturn V rocket.)

The report cites a 1949 memo from the Justice Department’s No. 2 official urging immigration officers to let Rudolph back in the country after a stay in Mexico, saying that a failure to do so “would be to the detriment of the national interest.”

Justice Department investigators later found evidence that Rudolph was much more actively involved in exploiting slave laborers at Mittelwerk than he or American intelligence officials had acknowledged, the report says...


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
 
On another thread George Soros is getting a real drubbing because of what he did as a 13-year old. Listening to beck, you'd think Soros was actually a collaborator herding innocent people to their deaths.

I wonder if beck is going to address this bombshell, or if he'll just ignore its existence. Liberals on this board and elsewhere are constantly being called America haters because we don't buy into the "my country right or wrong" mindset so cherished by conservatives. Well, wake up and smell the coffee already. It's evidence like this that make us suspicious of government, and disdainful of the blind nationalism peddled by those who make excuses for this country's actions that come suspiciously close to aiding and abetting our enemies.

Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says

WASHINGTON — A secret history of the United States government’s Nazi-hunting operation concludes that American intelligence officials created a “safe haven” in the United States for Nazis and their collaborators after World War II, and it details decades of clashes, often hidden, with other nations over war criminals here and abroad.
The 600-page report, which the Justice Department has tried to keep secret for four years, provides new evidence about more than two dozen of the most notorious Nazi cases of the last three decades.

It describes the government’s posthumous pursuit of Dr. Josef Mengele, the so-called Angel of Death at Auschwitz, part of whose scalp was kept in a Justice Department official’s drawer; the vigilante killing of a former Waffen SS soldier in New Jersey; and the government’s mistaken identification of the Treblinka concentration camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.

The report catalogs both the successes and failures of the band of lawyers, historians and investigators at the Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations, which was created in 1979 to deport Nazis...

Perhaps the report’s most damning disclosures come in assessing the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with Nazi émigrés. Scholars and previous government reports had acknowledged the C.I.A.’s use of Nazis for postwar intelligence purposes. But this report goes further in documenting the level of American complicity and deception in such operations.

The Justice Department report, describing what it calls “the government’s collaboration with persecutors,” says that O.S.I investigators learned that some of the Nazis “were indeed knowingly granted entry” to the United States, even though government officials were aware of their pasts. “America, which prided itself on being a safe haven for the persecuted, became — in some small measure — a safe haven for persecutors as well,” it said...

The Justice Department has resisted making the report public since 2006. Under the threat of a lawsuit, it turned over a heavily redacted version last month to a private research group, the National Security Archive, but even then many of the most legally and diplomatically sensitive portions were omitted. A complete version was obtained by The New York Times...

In chronicling the cases of Nazis who were aided by American intelligence officials, the report cites help that C.I.A. officials provided in 1954 to Otto Von Bolschwing, an associate of Adolf Eichmann who had helped develop the initial plans “to purge Germany of the Jews” and who later worked for the C.I.A. in the United States. In a chain of memos, C.I.A. officials debated what to do if Von Bolschwing were confronted about his past — whether to deny any Nazi affiliation or “explain it away on the basis of extenuating circumstances,” the report said...

The report also examines the case of Arthur L. Rudolph, a Nazi scientist who ran the Mittelwerk munitions factory. He was brought to the United States in 1945 for his rocket-making expertise under Operation Paperclip, an American program that recruited scientists who had worked in Nazi Germany. (Rudolph has been honored by NASA and is credited as the father of the Saturn V rocket.)

The report cites a 1949 memo from the Justice Department’s No. 2 official urging immigration officers to let Rudolph back in the country after a stay in Mexico, saying that a failure to do so “would be to the detriment of the national interest.”

Justice Department investigators later found evidence that Rudolph was much more actively involved in exploiting slave laborers at Mittelwerk than he or American intelligence officials had acknowledged, the report says...


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
Don't forget their favorite Pope, too! The Catholic Church was very guilty of looking the other way as a trade off, it sickens me.
 
Don't forget their favorite Pope, too! The Catholic Church was very guilty of looking the other way as a trade off, it sickens me.

It makes me sick when this kind of knowledge comes to light. Especially that the JD tried to hide the worst of it by redacting. It's the same thing we learned about Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq and so many others. We can play the game as dirty as anybody and it's time for the blind nationalists to admit it.
 
It makes me sick when this kind of knowledge comes to light. Especially that the JD tried to hide the worst of it by redacting. It's the same thing we learned about Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq and so many others. We can play the game as dirty as anybody and it's time for the blind nationalists to admit it.
The truth catches up, it may take awhile and it may not still be learned, but it is still there!

The Church finally had to confess to its deeds.
 
What insight, what discernment.

Nothing to do with the article itself but I suppose your OCD compelled you to respond.

:bang:

apparently you don't understand your own stupidity in starting a whole new thread to justify someone else's actions simply because someone else did it too....
 
apparently you don't understand your own stupidity in starting a whole new thread to justify someone else's actions simply because someone else did it too....

Not as stupid as someone who doesn't understand that this was a brand-new thread about a topic that just made the news this morning.

dingbat
 
Not as stupid as someone who doesn't understand that this was a brand-new thread about a topic that just made the news this morning.

dingbat

yeah right....you just made this new topic and it has nothing to do with the other thread

On another thread George Soros is getting a real drubbing because of what he did as a 13-year old. Listening to beck, you'd think Soros was actually a collaborator herding innocent people to their deaths.

I wonder if beck is going to address this bombshell, or if he'll just ignore its existence. Liberals on this board and elsewhere are constantly being called America haters because we don't buy into the "my country right or wrong" mindset so cherished by conservatives. Well, wake up and smell the coffee already. It's evidence like this that make us suspicious of government, and disdainful of the blind nationalism peddled by those who make excuses for this country's actions that come suspiciously close to aiding and abetting our enemies.

:rolleyes:
 
:lol:

The report also examines the case of Arthur L. Rudolph, a Nazi scientist who ran the Mittelwerk munitions factory. He was brought to the United States in 1945 for his rocket-making expertise under Operation Paperclip, an American program that recruited scientists who had worked in Nazi Germany. (Rudolph has been honored by NASA and is credited as the father of the Saturn V rocket.)

Anybody want to guess what party was in charge of the White House??? Harry S. Trueman, replaced Roosevelt who had died that same year. It was also the same year that a democrat let loose the most destructive power know to mankind at the time, the atomic bomb on Japan. So I guess the democrats were responsible for letting the Nazi's into the Unitied States. Der leader is very proud of you.


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somebody had to give those guys a hiding spot, they really knew how to party and some people in high places still hate jews
 
De-Nazification never happened. It started, then the cold war broke out. The Soviets had their Nazi scientists and so we had to have ours too. Werner von Braun was a Nazi and an SS officer. He worked at Peenemunde and some at Mittlewerk. There are conflicting reports from his friends that he was repulsed by the conditions they slaves were under at Mittlewerk and survivors of Mittlewerk report he was a sadistic task master and ordered at least one survivor flogged. Many Nazis were brought to the US during Operation Paperclip. Their pasts were doctored by the US to hide their Nazi roots.
 
De-Nazification never happened. It started, then the cold war broke out. The Soviets had their Nazi scientists and so we had to have ours too. Werner von Braun was a Nazi and an SS officer. He worked at Peenemunde and some at Mittlewerk. There are conflicting reports from his friends that he was repulsed by the conditions they slaves were under at Mittlewerk and survivors of Mittlewerk report he was a sadistic task master and ordered at least one survivor flogged. Many Nazis were brought to the US during Operation Paperclip. Their pasts were doctored by the US to hide their Nazi roots.


Yes. Mass murderers run our government too.
 
um...you obviously have no clue what that logical fallacy actually means

i used YOUR words, thus you are a moron to try and use that logical fallacy

That was quite the rebuttal, yurt. Maybe I should have said "correlation does not imply causation".

My article hit the news a couple of days ago. I didn't just trawl the web trying to find something to play off against beck's idiotic, Soros-bashing remarks. My comment stands that you still have nothing to say about the actual topic.

Why don't you go back to posting threads about how people are stalking you all over the interwebs; it's a lot more entertaining than your constant snarkiness and name-calling on every other one you visit.
 
That was quite the rebuttal, yurt. Maybe I should have said "correlation does not imply causation".

My article hit the news a couple of days ago. I didn't just trawl the web trying to find something to play off against beck's idiotic, Soros-bashing remarks. My comment stands that you still have nothing to say about the actual topic.

Why don't you go back to posting threads about how people are stalking you all over the interwebs; it's a lot more entertaining than your constant snarkiness and name-calling on every other one you visit.

lol...you need not trawl the web to make a "they did it too" thread

your entire first part of the OP was a they did it too argument
 
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