Plus they know that if they piss off the countries who are their customers, they will quit buying. Duh.
Sea level is already guaranteed to rise by 5 feet, climate scientist says
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Plus they know that if they piss off the countries who are their customers, they will quit buying. Duh.
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Sadly Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University died last year. He was regarded by many as the world's foremost expert on sea level rise.
UN IPCC Scientist Blows Whistle on Lies About Climate, Sea Level
by Alex Newman February 12, 2019
STOCKHOLM, Sweden — The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC) is misleading humanity about climate change and sea levels, a leading expert on sea levels who served on the UN IPCC told The New American. In fact, it is more likely that sea levels will decline, not rise, explained Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University. A new solar-driven cooling period is not far off, he said. But when Mörner tried to warn the UN IPCC that it was publishing false information that would inevitably be discredited, they simply ignored him. And so, dismayed, he resigned in disgust and decided to blow the whistle.
Asked if coastal cities such as Miami would be flooding due to sea-level rise caused by alleged man-made global warming, Mörner was unequivocal: “Absolutely not.” “There is no rapid sea-level rise going on today, and there will not be,” he said, citing observable data. “On the contrary, if anything happens, the sea will go down a little.” The widely respected scientist, who has been tracking sea levels in various parts of the globe for some 50 years, blasted those who use incorrect “correction factors” in their data to make it appear that seas are rising worldwide. That is just wrong, he said.
Indeed, even speaking of something called “global sea level” is highly misleading, the expert explained. “It is different in different parts of the world,” Mörner said, noting that sea levels can rise in one part of the world and decline in another depending on a variety of factors. For instance, the interview took place right next to an 18th-century Baltic sea-level marker in Saltsjöbaden near Stockholm that showed the Baltic sea level at the time it was made. Because the ground is rising, the marking is now higher up from sea level than it was when it was made. Mörner has personally been measuring and tracking sea levels in equatorial regions of the world — Bangladesh, the Maldives, Southern India, New Caledonia, Fiji, and beyond.
Mörner’s conclusion is that solar activity and its effects on the globe have been the “dominant factor” in what happens to both the climate and the seas. Meanwhile, the UN claims the current changes in climate and sea level are attributable to human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2). Man’s emissions of this essential gas, required by plants and exhaled by people, makes up a fraction of one percent of all so-called greenhouse gases present naturally in the atmosphere. “Absolutely not,” Mörner said about the CO2 argument, noting there was “something basically sick” in the blame-CO2 hypothesis. “CO2, if it has any effect, it is minute — it does not matter. What has a big effect is the sun.”
Obviously, while he was serving on the UN IPCC, Mörner tried to warn his colleagues on the UN body that the politically backed hypothesis about CO2 driving temperature changes, and the subsequent claims regarding dangerous sea-level rise, were totally incorrect. “They just ignored what I was saying,” he recounted. “If they were clever — if they had facts on their hands — they could show that, ‘no, you’re wrong.’ But that is not the case. They just will not discuss it. I will try to discuss it. I will show with their own data that they are wrong. Because in science, we discuss. We don’t forbid or neglect.”
When asked about the frequently repeated (and easily debunked) claims of an alleged 97-percent consensus supporting the man-made global-warming hypothesis, Mörner said it was simply not true — and even if it were, it would be irrelevant. “Why does anybody say something when it is not correct?” he asked. “They say it because they have applied excellent lobbyists. They are working with lobbyists in their hand; ‘say this, do that.’ We don’t do that.” In the field of physics, Mörner estimated that 80 to 90 percent of physicists know the hypothesis is wrong. And among geologists and astronomers, he said probably 80 percent know it is wrong.
“They claim that there are 97 percent who are for it,” Mörner said. “I claim that it is 97 percent of scientific facts against them.”
Read more: https://thenewamerican.com/un-ipcc-scientist-blows-whistle-on-un-climate-lies/
Sadly Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University died last year. He was regarded by many as the world's foremost expert on sea level rise.
UN IPCC Scientist Blows Whistle on Lies About Climate, Sea Level
by Alex Newman February 12, 2019
STOCKHOLM, Sweden — The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC) is misleading humanity about climate change and sea levels, a leading expert on sea levels who served on the UN IPCC told The New American. In fact, it is more likely that sea levels will decline, not rise, explained Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, the retired head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics at Stockholm University. A new solar-driven cooling period is not far off, he said. But when Mörner tried to warn the UN IPCC that it was publishing false information that would inevitably be discredited, they simply ignored him. And so, dismayed, he resigned in disgust and decided to blow the whistle.
Asked if coastal cities such as Miami would be flooding due to sea-level rise caused by alleged man-made global warming, Mörner was unequivocal: “Absolutely not.” “There is no rapid sea-level rise going on today, and there will not be,” he said, citing observable data. “On the contrary, if anything happens, the sea will go down a little.” The widely respected scientist, who has been tracking sea levels in various parts of the globe for some 50 years, blasted those who use incorrect “correction factors” in their data to make it appear that seas are rising worldwide. That is just wrong, he said.
Indeed, even speaking of something called “global sea level” is highly misleading, the expert explained. “It is different in different parts of the world,” Mörner said, noting that sea levels can rise in one part of the world and decline in another depending on a variety of factors. For instance, the interview took place right next to an 18th-century Baltic sea-level marker in Saltsjöbaden near Stockholm that showed the Baltic sea level at the time it was made. Because the ground is rising, the marking is now higher up from sea level than it was when it was made. Mörner has personally been measuring and tracking sea levels in equatorial regions of the world — Bangladesh, the Maldives, Southern India, New Caledonia, Fiji, and beyond.
Mörner’s conclusion is that solar activity and its effects on the globe have been the “dominant factor” in what happens to both the climate and the seas. Meanwhile, the UN claims the current changes in climate and sea level are attributable to human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2). Man’s emissions of this essential gas, required by plants and exhaled by people, makes up a fraction of one percent of all so-called greenhouse gases present naturally in the atmosphere. “Absolutely not,” Mörner said about the CO2 argument, noting there was “something basically sick” in the blame-CO2 hypothesis. “CO2, if it has any effect, it is minute — it does not matter. What has a big effect is the sun.”
Obviously, while he was serving on the UN IPCC, Mörner tried to warn his colleagues on the UN body that the politically backed hypothesis about CO2 driving temperature changes, and the subsequent claims regarding dangerous sea-level rise, were totally incorrect. “They just ignored what I was saying,” he recounted. “If they were clever — if they had facts on their hands — they could show that, ‘no, you’re wrong.’ But that is not the case. They just will not discuss it. I will try to discuss it. I will show with their own data that they are wrong. Because in science, we discuss. We don’t forbid or neglect.”
When asked about the frequently repeated (and easily debunked) claims of an alleged 97-percent consensus supporting the man-made global-warming hypothesis, Mörner said it was simply not true — and even if it were, it would be irrelevant. “Why does anybody say something when it is not correct?” he asked. “They say it because they have applied excellent lobbyists. They are working with lobbyists in their hand; ‘say this, do that.’ We don’t do that.” In the field of physics, Mörner estimated that 80 to 90 percent of physicists know the hypothesis is wrong. And among geologists and astronomers, he said probably 80 percent know it is wrong.
“They claim that there are 97 percent who are for it,” Mörner said. “I claim that it is 97 percent of scientific facts against them.”
Read more: https://thenewamerican.com/un-ipcc-scientist-blows-whistle-on-un-climate-lies/
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I don't think it makes any difference one way or the other, they will do what the want to do
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Wrong about what? Schooling you on the English language?
Illiterate fucktard
Wrong for disagreeing with my contention that the headline is contradicted by the body of the article, illiterate dunce.
Guarantee: a formal promise or assurance (typically in writing) that certain conditions will be fulfilled.
At least: not less than; at the minimum.
Plus or minus: used to define the margin of error of an estimate or calculation.
In other words by allowing for the minus part of plus or minus, he is admitting that the "guarantee" of a minimum increase of five feet is in fact not a guarantee. I'm not sure how someone could be stupid enough not to comprehend that simple fact. But here you are. Unless you're just arguing with me to be an obstinate little cunt.
Wrong for disagreeing with my contention that the headline is contradicted by the body of the article, illiterate dunce.
Guarantee: a formal promise or assurance (typically in writing) that certain conditions will be fulfilled.
At least: not less than; at the minimum.
Plus or minus: used to define the margin of error of an estimate or calculation.
In other words by allowing for the minus part of plus or minus, he is admitting that the "guarantee" of a minimum increase of five feet is in fact not a guarantee. I'm not sure how someone could be stupid enough not to comprehend that simple fact. But here you are. Unless you're just arguing with me to be an obstinate little cunt.
I never made a comment about the word ‘guarantee’, illiterate fuck. I told you already that I also didn’t comment on whether I agree with him or not.
You got schooled on the colloquialism ‘plus or minus’.
Why is it that you right wing morons are so fucking illiterate?
Sirthinksalot
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I accept your concession. Pussy.
You accept my dick in your mouth, illiterate fuckwad
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Hello ThatOwlWoman,
The problem is that China is a manufacturing country. They need a lot of energy to run all those factories to supply the USA with all the disposable stuff and planned obsolescence stuff we end up piling into landfills after a short use period.
The problem is that China is a manufacturing country. They need a lot of energy to run all those factories to supply the USA with all the disposable stuff and planned obsolescence stuff we end up piling into landfills after a short use period.
That's true. They've done a good job of positioning themselves so that even if the other nations banded together and told China "We're finding other suppliers," there are far too many goods that they produce that can't be purchased elsewhere.
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Now go whine about me being a cunt and all, like you always do, wanker.
Haven't called you a cunt for quite a while even though you undoubtedly are.
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Are you calling the BBC liars? You'll be calling the Guardian, your climate Bible, liars as well before long.
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I see you found the other nasty cunt on the forum, well one of them at least.
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We are all going to pay for our irresponsibility and for letting anti-climate-science deniers infect critical thinking.
What's better?
Let billionaires do the billionaire thing?
Or have a livable world for 7 billion people.
Seems like a simple choice.
The Trump Party just gets so confused!
What's better?
Let billionaires do the billionaire thing?
Or have a livable world for 7 billion people.
Seems like a simple choice.
The Trump Party just gets so confused!