Scientific Evidence of God

Dixie said:
lol... or could intelligence be the side effect of curiosity?

What planet are you living on these days, huh Ass?
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Intelligence is the side effect of natural selection, which favored intelligence in our species and not in others.
 
Dixie said:
Yeah, kinda... More importantly, or to put it another way, why are chimps not afraid of death? Here is our closest genetic ancestor, and he seems to have absolutely no problem with death, it doesn't cause fear, it doesn't cause the chimp to pray or believe in God, he just eats another banana, and life goes on. So where did man acquire this "fear of death" attribute?
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We have a fear of death because we are self aware. We are aware of our existence in the universe, and as such, due to the fact of us consciously being aware of what "alive is" we concurrently are aware of what "death" is.

Again, I think you PRESUME man adopted spirituality because he was afraid of death, but you don't know that man didn't adopt spirituality first, and then become afraid of death because of it.
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:palm:
 
"We are all hurtling toward death. Yet here we are, for the moment, alive. Each of us knowing we will die; each of us secretly believing we won't."
 
ib1yysguy said:
Yes. I do. Two people in my family have down syndrome. And you know what? I'm mature enough not to get upset by words. You should try it too.
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Well, perhaps you might accept that some people are not mature and find the term offensive when used out of context. Or were you never taught to respect others?
 
Exoendo said:
We have a fear of death because we are self aware. We are aware of our existence in the universe, and as such, due to the fact of us consciously being aware of what "alive is" we concurrently are aware of what "death" is.



:palm:
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Okay.... but that begs the question, where pray-tell did this profoundly enlightened awareness come from? No other creatures seem to be so blessed... ooops, there is that word!
 
Dixie said:
Okay.... but that begs the question, where pray-tell did this profoundly enlightened awareness come from? No other creatures seem to be so blessed... ooops, there is that word!
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It evolved. a more complex nervous system leads to self awareness.
 
Dixie said:
You're missing a huge chunk of the point. You are not answering WHY man would have angst, uncertainty, worry, about what? Death? You are attempting to apply reverse logic here, it's like saying the reason so many people are arrested is because we have a lot of policemen! The reason we buy cars is so auto mechanics will have something to work on!
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This is explained as the "God Part of the Mind"...

Humans are hardwired to believe in what they cannot see. In order to survive in a wilderness full of predators that could hide in the bushes, had better sense of smell, sight, hearing, we had to use our imagination. We "knew" there was something in the bushes, even without evidence that there was something in the bushes. And because we "knew" it, even when there was nothing there we were safer because we acted as if something were in the bushes. As we gained intelligence, this began to extend to other things.

Armed with this, we were able to imagine many things in the bushes, and in the sky, and in the clouds, etc.

It was a survival mechanism that "gave" us a strong need to believe in things we have no evidence of, and which was extended by our intelligence to include "God" and things like "Demons", "Angels", "Magic" and "Miracles"...

This particular survival technique was very successful and was not tossed away during evolution because of its amazing success. It contributed directly to our intelligence, and what became the human animal.
 
Dixie said:
Yeah, kinda... More importantly, or to put it another way, why are chimps not afraid of death? Here is our closest genetic ancestor, and he seems to have absolutely no problem with death, it doesn't cause fear, it doesn't cause the chimp to pray or believe in God, he just eats another banana, and life goes on. So where did man acquire this "fear of death" attribute?

Again, I think you PRESUME man adopted spirituality because he was afraid of death, but you don't know that man didn't adopt spirituality first, and then become afraid of death because of it.
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Who said chimps aren't afraid of death? Chimps are definitely afraid of death. Most animals are.

Man is one of the few animals that can reason things out though. You're aware of the advanced cerebral cortex, right? You always sound kinda naive when you start talking about animals...
 
Damocles said:
This is explained as the "God Part of the Mind"...

Humans are hardwired to believe in what they cannot see. In order to survive in a wilderness full of predators that could hide in the bushes, had better sense of smell, sight, hearing, we had to use our imagination. We "knew" there was something in the bushes, even without evidence that there was something in the bushes.

Armed with this, we were able to imagine many things in the bushes, and in the sky, and in the clouds, etc.

It was a survival mechanism that "gave" us a strong need to believe in things we have no evidence of, and which was extended by our intelligence.
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Well put, damo.
 
Onceler said:
Who said chimps aren't afraid of death? Chimps are definitely afraid of death. Most animals are.

Man is one of the few animals that can reason things out though. You're aware of the advanced cerebral cortex, right? You always sound kinda naive when you start talking about animals...
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I never said chimps weren't afraid of death, but last I checked, they weren't teaching Sunday School classes. No other creature depends on spirituality to cope with death and the other mysteries of life. In fact, they seem oblivious to death, the unknown, the unexplained... they don't really seem to care, but humans can't cope with it and have to 'invent' spirituality... it doesn't make sense to me.
 
"I never said chimps weren't afraid of death"

Actually, yeah, you did.

You're kind of schizophrenic or something; it's very weird when you contradict yourself in 2 posts like that...
 
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