Scalia was an intellectual phony: Can we please stop calling him a brilliant jurist?

So you once again prove you are a fucking idiot. Thanks. Again... it is not disrespecting teachers in general. Just the idiots at CU. Again... personal experience. I would be willing to bet you do not know any of them personally. I do. Which again furthers the point that you are a fucking idiot.

Again... thanks for proving you are a fucking idiot. I have no problem with people disagreeing with the opinions/decisions/writings of Scalia. None. I am simply saying that taking the hacks opinion on the intelligence of Scalia over that of RBG is moronic. She knew him. But something tells me you are too fucking stupid to comprehend what I just wrote.

LMAO... the author is a fucking hack. I have met him and listened to him lecture... have you? You, again, are quoting his opinion because it confirms what you wish to believe.

Lol another angry, hate-filled rant from the board hothead. Are you on steroids or something? I've rarely seen you write a reasonable post to your political opposites. You always come off as frothing at the mouth with anger and name-calling.

This isn't about Campos no matter how hard you're trying to excoriate his reputation. It's about a dissenting opinion of Scalia's so-called brilliance. If your blood pressure can't take those opinions, don't read them.
 
Lol another angry, hate-filled rant from the board hothead. Are you on steroids or something? I've rarely seen you write a reasonable post to your political opposites. You always come off as frothing at the mouth with anger and name-calling.

This isn't about Campos no matter how hard you're trying to excoriate his reputation. It's about a dissenting opinion of Scalia's so-called brilliance. If your blood pressure can't take those opinions, don't read them.
awww... that is so very cute... and moronic. Once again a liberal tries to project their feelings onto others.

Again... Campos is a hack. Just listen to his stupidity on obesity and you will find I am correct. Again... I have listened to the idiot give a lecture... have you? Do you know anything about him other than the fact that he said something you liked?

calling you a fucking idiot is not done out of hate or frothing at the mouth as you so often like to project. It is done because you are indeed a fucking idiot.
 
awww... that is so very cute... and moronic. Once again a liberal tries to project their feelings onto others.

Again... Campos is a hack. Just listen to his stupidity on obesity and you will find I am correct. Again... I have listened to the idiot give a lecture... have you? Do you know anything about him other than the fact that he said something you liked?

calling you a fucking idiot is not done out of hate or frothing at the mouth as you so often like to project. It is done because you are indeed a fucking idiot.

Q.E.D.

Campos gave examples to support his arguments. That's a hell of a lot more than you've done. As usual all you had to offer was ad homs on Campos and me.
 
Here you go Supertool, another law professor you can excoriate like you did Campos.

"Justice Antonin Scalia is setting a terrible example for young lawyers. Ignore, for now, his jurisprudence, his famously strict originalism; it's his tone that's the problem.I have taught argumentation for many years, first as an instructor to high school and college debaters, currently as a law professor. Throughout my career I have always cautioned students away from nastiness as a crutch for those who cannot win using reason or legal precedent. I have told them to stick to persuasion and to dissecting the opposition's logical fallacies. But lately my students have been turning in legal briefs laced with derision and ad hominem barbs. For this trend, I largely blame Scalia. My students read his work, find it amusing and imitate his truculent style.

Scalia has long relied on ridicule. In past years he has dismissed his colleagues' decisions as "nothing short of ludicrous" and "beyond absurd," "entirely irrational" and not "pass[ing] the most gullible scrutiny." He has called them "preposterous" and "so unsupported in reason and so absurd in application [as] unlikely to survive." Scalia's opinions this term, however, were especially nasty, sarcastic and personal.

Consider several examples. In his dissent in Obergefell vs. Hodges, which declared unconstitutional state laws prohibiting same-sex marriage, Scalia said that Justice Anthony M. Kennedy's majority opinion was "as pretentious as its content is egotistic" and that its "showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent."

In a footnote he wrote, "If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the court that began: 'The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,' I would hide my head in a bag." He likened the majority opinion to "mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie." Such mockery does not amount to a legal argument; it's nothing more than an attack on the author's writing technique. A litigator who compared an opponent's brief to a fortune cookie likely would be, and should be, sanctioned by the court.

In Glossip vs. Gross, which upheld the three-drug protocol used in lethal injection, Justice Stephen G. Breyer urged the court to solicit arguments on the death penalty — specifically whether it's a cruel and unusual punishment and thus in violation of the 8th Amendment. Scalia wrote a scathing response. He referred to Breyer's opinion as "gobbledy-gook" and said his argument was "nonsense." He concluded by stating, "Justice Breyer does not just reject the death penalty, he rejects the Enlightenment." What did Breyer do to deserve this treatment? He was hardly the first member of the Supreme Court to question the death penalty's constitutionality. Fellow doubters include Justices William J. Brennan Jr., Thurgood Marshall, Harry A. Blackmun and John Paul Stevens.

I do not mean to suggest that Scalia is the first or only member of the court to use invective. Nor do I deny that some find such language entertaining or delightfully funny. But Scalia's browbeating is childish, even vain; like a harshly negative book critic, he revels in his own turns of phrase. And his attitude, just like his legal theory, affects the profession as a whole.
Scalia's spiteful recent dissents probably reflect frustration; after all, he was on the losing side of several major cases. Still, that's no excuse for lashing out. Nor should either liberals or conservatives dismiss such behavior as just "Scalia being Scalia."

If legal professionals ignore Scalia's meanness or — worse — pass around his insults at cocktail parties like Wildean witticisms, they'll encourage a new generation of peevish, callous scoffers."

Erwin Chemerinsky is dean of the UC Irvine School of Law.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0714-chemerinsky-scalia-bad-example-20150714-story.html
 
Here you go Supertool, another law professor you can excoriate like you did Campos.

"Justice Antonin Scalia is setting a terrible example for young lawyers. Ignore, for now, his jurisprudence, his famously strict originalism; it's his tone that's the problem.I have taught argumentation for many years, first as an instructor to high school and college debaters, currently as a law professor. Throughout my career I have always cautioned students away from nastiness as a crutch for those who cannot win using reason or legal precedent. I have told them to stick to persuasion and to dissecting the opposition's logical fallacies. But lately my students have been turning in legal briefs laced with derision and ad hominem barbs. For this trend, I largely blame Scalia. My students read his work, find it amusing and imitate his truculent style.

Scalia has long relied on ridicule. In past years he has dismissed his colleagues' decisions as "nothing short of ludicrous" and "beyond absurd," "entirely irrational" and not "pass[ing] the most gullible scrutiny." He has called them "preposterous" and "so unsupported in reason and so absurd in application [as] unlikely to survive." Scalia's opinions this term, however, were especially nasty, sarcastic and personal.

Consider several examples. In his dissent in Obergefell vs. Hodges, which declared unconstitutional state laws prohibiting same-sex marriage, Scalia said that Justice Anthony M. Kennedy's majority opinion was "as pretentious as its content is egotistic" and that its "showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent."

In a footnote he wrote, "If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the court that began: 'The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,' I would hide my head in a bag." He likened the majority opinion to "mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie." Such mockery does not amount to a legal argument; it's nothing more than an attack on the author's writing technique. A litigator who compared an opponent's brief to a fortune cookie likely would be, and should be, sanctioned by the court.

In Glossip vs. Gross, which upheld the three-drug protocol used in lethal injection, Justice Stephen G. Breyer urged the court to solicit arguments on the death penalty — specifically whether it's a cruel and unusual punishment and thus in violation of the 8th Amendment. Scalia wrote a scathing response. He referred to Breyer's opinion as "gobbledy-gook" and said his argument was "nonsense." He concluded by stating, "Justice Breyer does not just reject the death penalty, he rejects the Enlightenment." What did Breyer do to deserve this treatment? He was hardly the first member of the Supreme Court to question the death penalty's constitutionality. Fellow doubters include Justices William J. Brennan Jr., Thurgood Marshall, Harry A. Blackmun and John Paul Stevens.

I do not mean to suggest that Scalia is the first or only member of the court to use invective. Nor do I deny that some find such language entertaining or delightfully funny. But Scalia's browbeating is childish, even vain; like a harshly negative book critic, he revels in his own turns of phrase. And his attitude, just like his legal theory, affects the profession as a whole.
Scalia's spiteful recent dissents probably reflect frustration; after all, he was on the losing side of several major cases. Still, that's no excuse for lashing out. Nor should either liberals or conservatives dismiss such behavior as just "Scalia being Scalia."

If legal professionals ignore Scalia's meanness or — worse — pass around his insults at cocktail parties like Wildean witticisms, they'll encourage a new generation of peevish, callous scoffers."

Erwin Chemerinsky is dean of the UC Irvine School of Law.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0714-chemerinsky-scalia-bad-example-20150714-story.html

LMAO... so her problem with Scalia is he is just 'too mean'??? Wow... riveting analysis.
 
Another judge's opinion.

"A federal appeals judge harshly criticized U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia during a recent interview with lawyer and author Joel Cohen, published by the American Bar Association.

Richard Posner, a renowned judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in Chicago, spoke about his "frayed" friendship with Scalia and an ongoing feud between them. On the topic of how he reacts to criticism from other judges, Posner said he didn't let it bother him when Scalia called him a liar for criticizing his 2012 book "Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal Texts."

"He's excitable and prone to anger," Posner said of Scalia's reaction to his book review, which was published in New Republic under the title "The Incoherence of Antonin Scalia." Posner told Cohen the magazine's editors picked the "adversarial" title without his knowledge, although he accepted responsibility for it.

Posner had this to say in defense of his book review:

"He [Scalia] writes a book about judicial interpretation. His book has errors. I connect that in part to the fact that in the front of the book there are acknowledgments of assistance from more than 90 people, including a number of law students. My guess is that much of the book was written by research assistants and was not adequately checked. I'm not saying the authors are bad people — that they're greedy or that they're lying. I'm saying that it's an inaccurate book."

Cohen asked if he was concerned his writings could influence Scalia's views when reviewing Posner's legal decisions in court. Posner said he doubted that, since Scalia just affirmed a decision a few weeks ago that Posner had written. "I imagine he has a bad opinion of me, but I wouldn't expect that to affect his decisions," Posner said. "The stakes are too high. I would be very surprised if he'd allow a personal dislike for a judge to influence his views."

In another article published in Slate, Posner wrote that "Justice Scalia is famously outspoken." Posner elaborated on that comment in his interview with Cohen. "I think from a public relations standpoint it would be better for the Supreme Court justices to take a lower profile — talk less on the bench and participate less in mock trials and other celebrity-type activities," he said.

Posner and Scalia's feud is largely based on some conflicting core beliefs about judging, according to FedSoc Blog. Posner emphasizes the importance of making pragmatic legal opinions that apply to the real world and criticizes Scalia for following legal text too closely while neglecting practical consequences. Scalia is a proponent of the originalism method for judging cases, based on the view that the Constitution should be interpreted according to its original meaning at the time of enactment. "I ... disagree with Justice Scalia's philosophy of originalism," Posner said in the interview.

Posner's relationship with Scalia has suffered as a result of their feuding comments. "We're actually old friends, although the friendship has been frayed somewhat," Posner said, "at least on his side."

http://www.businessinsider.com/judge-richard-posner-criticizes-antonin-scalia-2014-7
 
Another judge's opinion.

"A federal appeals judge harshly criticized U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia during a recent interview with lawyer and author Joel Cohen, published by the American Bar Association.

Richard Posner, a renowned judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in Chicago, spoke about his "frayed" friendship with Scalia and an ongoing feud between them. On the topic of how he reacts to criticism from other judges, Posner said he didn't let it bother him when Scalia called him a liar for criticizing his 2012 book "Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal Texts."

"He's excitable and prone to anger," Posner said of Scalia's reaction to his book review, which was published in New Republic under the title "The Incoherence of Antonin Scalia." Posner told Cohen the magazine's editors picked the "adversarial" title without his knowledge, although he accepted responsibility for it.

Posner had this to say in defense of his book review:

"He [Scalia] writes a book about judicial interpretation. His book has errors. I connect that in part to the fact that in the front of the book there are acknowledgments of assistance from more than 90 people, including a number of law students. My guess is that much of the book was written by research assistants and was not adequately checked. I'm not saying the authors are bad people — that they're greedy or that they're lying. I'm saying that it's an inaccurate book."

Cohen asked if he was concerned his writings could influence Scalia's views when reviewing Posner's legal decisions in court. Posner said he doubted that, since Scalia just affirmed a decision a few weeks ago that Posner had written. "I imagine he has a bad opinion of me, but I wouldn't expect that to affect his decisions," Posner said. "The stakes are too high. I would be very surprised if he'd allow a personal dislike for a judge to influence his views."

In another article published in Slate, Posner wrote that "Justice Scalia is famously outspoken." Posner elaborated on that comment in his interview with Cohen. "I think from a public relations standpoint it would be better for the Supreme Court justices to take a lower profile — talk less on the bench and participate less in mock trials and other celebrity-type activities," he said.

Posner and Scalia's feud is largely based on some conflicting core beliefs about judging, according to FedSoc Blog. Posner emphasizes the importance of making pragmatic legal opinions that apply to the real world and criticizes Scalia for following legal text too closely while neglecting practical consequences. Scalia is a proponent of the originalism method for judging cases, based on the view that the Constitution should be interpreted according to its original meaning at the time of enactment. "I ... disagree with Justice Scalia's philosophy of originalism," Posner said in the interview.

Posner's relationship with Scalia has suffered as a result of their feuding comments. "We're actually old friends, although the friendship has been frayed somewhat," Posner said, "at least on his side."

http://www.businessinsider.com/judge-richard-posner-criticizes-antonin-scalia-2014-7

LMAO... so again... nothing regarding the intelligence of Scalia. Just a difference in opinions on what a judge should do. Do you even read the shit you post?
 
It's a "him", not a "her." And it's another example of the problems people had with Scalia. Not surprised that you're evading the point.

Whatever... again... It isn't the fact that people have a problem with Scalia or how he felt a judge should act. Your OP questioned his intellect. Now YOU are the one evading, not me. YOU have not shown one single piece of evidence that suggests he wasn't brilliant as RBG stated. Instead you simply post one hacks opinion, a person who thought Scalia was 'too mean' and another judge who differed in opinion on what a judge should do.

You fucking moron.
 
"[h=2]Scalia was an intellectual phony: Can we please stop calling him a brilliant jurist?"[/h]
The above is what I called you out on.
 
LMAO... so again... nothing regarding the intelligence of Scalia. Just a difference in opinions on what a judge should do. Do you even read the shit you post?

Do you? "He [Scalia] writes a book about judicial interpretation. His book has errors. I connect that in part to the fact that in the front of the book there are acknowledgments of assistance from more than 90 people, including a number of law students. My guess is that much of the book was written by research assistants and was not adequately checked."

It's not an example of brilliance to publish a book full of errors and if Scalia let it go to press without fact-checking, again that wasn't brilliant.

Posner says Scalia was "excitable and prone to anger." Scalia used meanness, invective and hyperbole in his dissensions instead of rational explanation. You and Scalia are two of a kind in that way and god knows you're as dumb as a stump so why should invective be seen as a sign of brilliance?
 
Whatever... again... It isn't the fact that people have a problem with Scalia or how he felt a judge should act. Your OP questioned his intellect. Now YOU are the one evading, not me. YOU have not shown one single piece of evidence that suggests he wasn't brilliant as RBG stated. Instead you simply post one hacks opinion, a person who thought Scalia was 'too mean' and another judge who differed in opinion on what a judge should do.

You fucking moron.

Where is your refutation of the three examples Campos gave in the article, you brain-dead toady?
 
Posner says Scalia was "excitable and prone to anger." Scalia used meanness, invective and hyperbole in his dissensions instead of rational explanation. You and Scalia are two of a kind in that way and god knows you're as dumb as a stump so why should invective be seen as a sign of brilliance?

LMAO... you are once again projecting your own emotions on to me. Because you are a desperate piece of shit at this point.

You are a fucking moron. You know it, the rest of us know it. Not sure why you are trying to hide it.
 
Where is your refutation of the three examples Campos gave in the article, you brain-dead toady?

Again... his three examples of what he DISAGREES with Scalia on. Again... Campos is a fucking idiot. Why would I care about his OPINION?

Campos thinks obesity is not a problem in this country. He thinks warnings about obesity are a scare tactic and grand conspiracy.
 
LMAO... you are once again projecting your own emotions on to me. Because you are a desperate piece of shit at this point.

You are a fucking moron. You know it, the rest of us know it. Not sure why you are trying to hide it.

Not sure why you won't post a RW refutation of Campos' examples but I suspect it's because you can't. Anything to do with research and rational response is miles above your intellectual pay grade.
 
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