San Francisco bans Happy Meals

so, let me get this straight, this proposal will eliminate obesity among children in San Fransico? Does anyone know what one of the biggest culprits is in childhood obesity? Anyone? Soda. Kids have access to sugary sodas everywhere. Coke and Pepsi have made deals with school districts all over the nation to kick back a percentage of their profits for the priviledge of selling sodas in our schools. The AMA said they should be called liquid candy. If you really want to stop the scourge of childhood obesity, ban sodas. Ban any drink that adds sugar. I mean if you really want to kick the nanny state in to overdrive, ban that. Ban candy bars, another treat kids can buy at their schools because the school district has made a deal with the devil for money. McDonalds was an easy target here. Everyone knows that too much McDonalds will make you fat. But in San Fransico, they don't trust parents to make the right decisions. Matter of fact, they don't trust their citizens at all. They want a controled state, where every decision you can make has already been cleared by the central authority. The funny thing is, lefties, who will tell you that the government should stay out of the prohibition on drugs and alcohol (and they are right I might add) will in the same pungent lung full of halitosis tell you that the government knows better when it comes to prohibiting food.

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A fascist, over a TOY! WOW!!! You have a mental disorder...seriously.

San Francisco has universal health care and children have access to subsidized care. SO, the health care costs of childhood obesity is not just a burden on the parents. It is a burden on the whole community. There is NOTHING stopping parents from buying the kid a Happy Meal. The only thing missing from the 'meal' is not food, the damn kid shouldn't eat plastic anyways. So it is not part of a meal.

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And here it is: the EXACT reasoning that was brought forth during the national healthcare reform debate. Opponents warn that if government starts providing health care, then government will start mandating private decisions under the cause of keeping health care affordable.

This is exactly how modern liberalism thinks. What is not forbidden is mandatory. And they call it freedom. Free to bow down and kiss the government's ass on all things because we are too stupid to make decisions for our own lives, and/or our own children. Life mandated from birth to death, from waking in the morning to sleeping at night. Government knows best, and the people just need to follow their lead so they can be "free".

You liberal fucks can take your definition of freedom and shove it up your collective reamed out assholes.
 
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so, let me get this straight, this proposal will eliminate obesity among children in San Fransico? Does anyone know what one of the biggest culprits is in childhood obesity? Anyone? Soda. Kids have access to sugary sodas everywhere. Coke and Pepsi have made deals with school districts all over the nation to kick back a percentage of their profits for the priviledge of selling sodas in our schools. The AMA said they should be called liquid candy. If you really want to stop the scourge of childhood obesity, ban sodas. Ban any drink that adds sugar. I mean if you really want to kick the nanny state in to overdrive, ban that. Ban candy bars, another treat kids can buy at their schools because the school district has made a deal with the devil for money. McDonalds was an easy target here. Everyone knows that too much McDonalds will make you fat. But in San Fransico, they don't trust parents to make the right decisions. Matter of fact, they don't trust their citizens at all. They want a controled state, where every decision you can make has already been cleared by the central authority. The funny thing is, lefties, who will tell you that the government should stay out of the prohibition on drugs and alcohol (and they are right I might add) will in the same pungent lung full of halitosis tell you that the government knows better when it comes to prohibiting food.

Not enough people can quote and emphasize this point enough Soc.
 
mott is opposed to toys with happy meals and happy meals themselves and has no problem with the government regulating such...now...let's see mott when it comes to marijuana and how the government should control HIS LIFE:

Who said anything about medical. This is personal. It's my home and it's my life and it's my business and it's not the governments but they are throwing me and my brothers and sisters in jail for some weed while the hypocrits are subsidizing the productions and distribution of the most deadly drug known to man.

CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME?!

dig your way out of that mott....
 
I had to post this... it sums it up better than anything anyone has said yet...

From Michelle Malkin: "In the City by the Bay, if you want to roller skate naked down Castro Street wearing a phallic-symbol hat and snorting an eight-ball off a transgender hooker’s chest while underage kids run behind you handing out free heroin needles, condoms and coupons to the grand opening of the neighborhood’s ...newest bathhouse, that’s your right as a free citizen of the United States. But if you want to put a Buzz Lightyear toy in the same box with a hamburger and fries and sell it, you’re outta line, mister!"
 
This is insanity. Radical SF-style politicians and their supporters know nothing of freedom... unless it involves sex or abortion, of course.
 
I had to post this... it sums it up better than anything anyone has said yet...

From Michelle Malkin: "In the City by the Bay, if you want to roller skate naked down Castro Street wearing a phallic-symbol hat and snorting an eight-ball off a transgender hooker’s chest while underage kids run behind you handing out free heroin needles, condoms and coupons to the grand opening of the neighborhood’s ...newest bathhouse, that’s your right as a free citizen of the United States. But if you want to put a Buzz Lightyear toy in the same box with a hamburger and fries and sell it, you’re outta line, mister!"

It certainly does...the bassackwards logic of the psuedo liberal mindset!
 
Interesting...I'm a liberal that has been around since Harry Truman was in the White House. What I have witnessed in America is the construction of the biggest nanny state in history, but not by liberals, by conservatives. I've lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. We led the world in education, medical breakthroughs and saw the individual success of millions of citizens. It was an era with huge gains in economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city on the hill', the envy of the world.

That era ended at the end of the 1960's and the conservative era began. It has continued ever since. It has been a freedoms and liberties nightmare. Conservatives built a society that has become a negative mirror image of the liberal era. We once led the world in education, now we are way down the list. BUT, take heart (even though you don't have one), America is still number #1 by a huge margin in one category. We now lead the world in incarcerating human beings.

The Conservative 'Nanny State'

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I"m glad that you were finally able to find an outlet for your rant.
Are you now going to write a manifesto and when might we be able to find it on line??

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Yes, the right wing sky is falling polarized mantra.

By offering children the EXACT SAME meal, but removing one small device that is designed to entice, herd and CONTROL that child's mind and decision it is the END OF AMERICA as we know it!!!

You will have a considerable right to talk, when you have a business and the Government steps in and tells you what you're allowed to do, after you've been building a market over many years.
Until then, you're just another liberal who is sure that you know what's best for everyone else and that everyone else should just listen to you.

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Again, that's bullshit. Just because the public wants government to perform its function of regulationg commerce is in no way nannyism. In fact the opposite is true. You're position is corporatism. Let the corporations do what they want and the public be damned!

If the ADULT population didn't want their kids to have the meals, with the toys, then they wouldn't BUY THEM.

You're just willing to let the Government regulate what others do, as long as the regulations don't affect you.
 
Telling corporations we dont' want them poisoing people, particularly children, with high trans/saturated fat foods and high sugar drinks is fascism? Well maybe in your book, but here in reality it's called "public health" and it's a legitimate role of government. The true fascist are the corporatist, like you, who want to protect corporations right to make a buck at the publics expense.

How come it's always "we" (infering that the the people are the Government), when it's something Liberals want to cram down everyone else's throats; but when it's something from the other side of the political table, then Government isn't listening to the public?
 
Hey what the fuck. You're right. Why not get rid of all this nannyism, speaking of, I have a great idea. Since were going to get rid of all these socialist nanny laws lets create these bottles of cartoon characters and we'll attach real fun sippy straws and toys to the bottles and we'll fill them with Vodka and sell them in vending machines at the local Junior High! I bet we can make a fortune!!

GEE; looks who's now going to the extreme, after infering that the other side was acting like Chicken Little!!
 
Have you actually read the current peer reviewed literature on the consequences of the mass marketing of foods high in saturated and trans fats or drinks loaded with high levels of sweetners like refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup? Are you even remotely aware of the vast public health problems they present due to obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease?
Do you realize that fast food companies cost us billions of dollars in the cost of treating preventable disease and that many thousands of people die each year from these preventable diseases? Are you aware that those numbers rival those who die from nicotene addiction and alcohol abuse? Are you aware that nicotene and alcohol products are highly regulated, including the marketing methodologies used to sell those products for those very reasons?

You may not care about the public health threat represented by the fast food industry with their mass media marketing but a vast number of us who are aware of the consequences of consuming these products are and we do not want them marketed towards our children and it is unquestionably a legitimate function of our government to protect the publics health by regulating how these unhealthy and potentially dangerous products are marketed to our children.

Are you aware that it's the CONSUMER who dictates what a company offers in or with their product?
Obviously you believe that humans are unable to make decisions for themselves and need to be protected from their choices.
Keep that thought process and remember not to bitch and moan when you're told how to live every moment of your life; or what's left of it.

You are a sheep.
 
For the same damned reason they forbade Camel brand cigerettes from using "Joe Cool" as a marketing gimick to help them addict young people to the most dangerous and deadly drug known to man.

Considering the health consequences they should force McD's to place a warning lable on Happy Meals not unlike they have to do with tobacco and alcohol products.

There's that word "FORCE", just like they have to tell people not to place a hot iron against their face; because some idiot was able to excape his Darwin behavior.
 
so, let me get this straight, this proposal will eliminate obesity among children in San Fransico? Does anyone know what one of the biggest culprits is in childhood obesity? Anyone? Soda. Kids have access to sugary sodas everywhere. Coke and Pepsi have made deals with school districts all over the nation to kick back a percentage of their profits for the priviledge of selling sodas in our schools. The AMA said they should be called liquid candy. If you really want to stop the scourge of childhood obesity, ban sodas. Ban any drink that adds sugar. I mean if you really want to kick the nanny state in to overdrive, ban that. Ban candy bars, another treat kids can buy at their schools because the school district has made a deal with the devil for money. McDonalds was an easy target here. Everyone knows that too much McDonalds will make you fat. But in San Fransico, they don't trust parents to make the right decisions. Matter of fact, they don't trust their citizens at all. They want a controled state, where every decision you can make has already been cleared by the central authority. The funny thing is, lefties, who will tell you that the government should stay out of the prohibition on drugs and alcohol (and they are right I might add) will in the same pungent lung full of halitosis tell you that the government knows better when it comes to prohibiting food.

Don't forget meat, especially when's it's fried or grilled.
Mott will want to have steak's banned next
 
Ok, and the bright happy colors? The use of popular and/or happy music in advertisement? Should those go as well?

The smiling king from Burger King
Wendy from Wendys
All celebrity endorsements

Should all those go as well?

Years ago; I would have taken up a collection, to have Barney the Dinosaur drawn and quartered.
 
What floors me is Mott has decided that Child Obesity is the fault of McDonalds that just offers their food for sale, but the parents seem, in his argument to be totally blameless. Their little shit kids scream "HAPPY MEAL!" and they have no choice but to go get one. I have not one, but TWO four year olds, a 7 year old, a 10 year old and a 12 year old. They get McDonalds once or twice a month at the most. Matter of fact, for the month of October there was no purchases made at the golden arches at all. In September, the blonde 4 year old had to have a throat culture done and so his bravery was rewarded with a happy meal. The only such purchace at all in September. Now, my question is, with all of these kids around, how is it that I manage to avoid caving to their McDonalds requests, which come at least weekly. Oh that's right! I am the adult here. I don't have to cave to their desires. I can say "nope". Perhaps I should go on the road and teach other parents how to say "nope" as well. I mean, if it as hard as aBcdefgn says it is I could probably make a fortune teaching the seminar. Hmmmmm, I wonder if McDonalds would cater the thing?

You would have Liberals protesting outside your seminars and saying you were attempting to stifle the childrens sense of free will.

OH-WAIT, that's what they want to do; but they just want to make the Government responsible for doing it.
I guess that way they can continue being their childs "best friend', instead of being a parent.
 
It seems 'reasonable' to me an easy way to eliminate little shit kids screaming "HAPPY MEAL!" is to remove the HOOK. Little shit kids do not have the cognitive skills to realize it is a hook.

But parents have the right to say NO!
It's become obvious that your parents were remiss in their ability to tell you no and you apprently carried that trait into the raising of your own offspring.

So sad. :palm:
 
Kids (and adults) like McDonald's because it tastes good. Removing that toy isn't going to change that. If the toy was the only issue we would never see kids at places like Burger King, Wendy's, Carl's Jr. etc. that don't offer happy meals with toys.

You can eliminate kids screaming Happy Meals by their parents not taking them there (well they still may scream they want to go but not for long if they know it won't work).

I guess Chucky Cheese and Peter Piper Pizza should be destroyed; because the entice children to eat fattening Pizza, by providing games and such.
 
It seems 'reasonable' to me an easy way to eliminate little shit kids screaming "HAPPY MEAL!" is to remove the HOOK. Little shit kids do not have the cognitive skills to realize it is a hook.

It seems "reasonable" to me; that when my kids were little and they decided to try and force an issue, to get their way, that they learned that there were consequenced for their behavior.
Usually only took a couple of interventions and the behavior stopped.
 
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