San Francisco bans Happy Meals

And why just ban the toy? The toy is not making kids fat. The FOOD is makingthem fat. It is also making adults fat. If you want to use the bullshit logic "fat kids cost us money" routine, then use it to get to the actual problem.

The reason this is done is because supporters can say "We want to help the children". Bullshit. They want to gain control of another facet of our life and stick it to another huge corporation.

Yep. It's all about the pleasure they get off of controlling people. That's it. No other motivation at all.
 
It's not liberals that are the problem, it's fat kids and fucking fat heads that are too immature and ignorant to be called adults.

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Most U.S. youths unfit to serve, data show


By William H. McMichael - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Nov 5, 2009 16:56:21 EST

U.S. military-age youth are increasingly unfit to serve — mostly because they’re in such lousy shape.

According to the latest Pentagon figures, a full 35 percent, or more than one-third, of the roughly 31.2 million Americans aged 17 to 24 are unqualified for military service because of physical and medical issues. And, said Curt Gilroy, the Pentagon’s director of accessions, “the major component of this is obesity. We have an obesity crisis in the country. There’s no question about it.”
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/11/military_unfityouths_recruiting_110309w/


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Obesity and risk of job disability in male firefighters

Background Obesity is a major public health problem and a workplace epidemic in Western societies. However, little is known about the association between obesity and job disability in specific occupational groups.

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Conclusions
Obesity is associated with higher risk of job disability in firefighters. Additional research is needed to further explore our findings. Our study may have economic and public health implications in other occupational settings.

http://occmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/4/245.full



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December 25, 2008

Increasing obesity rate related to increased cost to society
Morbidities associated with obesity are also associated with high medical costs for care.

by Saad Shebrain, MD; Brant K. Oelschlager, MD

Researchers from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health addressed the prevalence of obesity and found the U.S. obesity rate has increased at an alarming rate over the past three decades, according to results of a recent study. The researchers expect that by 2030, 86% of U.S. adults will be overweight or obese, with related health care spending projected to be as much as $956.9 billion. They concluded that without a change in people’s eating habits or exercise habits, the figures will continue climbing to a public crisis.

From an economic standpoint, obesity is costly for both individuals and society, with its associated major health problems leading to substantial economic consequences for the U.S. health care system. This includes both direct and indirect costs. Direct medical costs may include preventive, diagnostic, and treatment services related to obesity; indirect costs relate to morbidity and mortality costs.

http://www.endocrinetoday.com/view.aspx?rid=35574

I agree with all of the above. People are in terrible physical shape as a whole, but a toy in a happy meal isn't the problem. All the kids today, generally speaking, exercise is their fingers and thumbs on either a cell phone or a video game. If the San Francisco city government wants to force someone to do something to really help the situation they would force kids to get some physical exercise every day. Can you see it, ghestapo-like officers making kids play ballat the park or run some laps at the track at gun point? Forcing restaurants to not put toys in meals for little kids ain't gonna matter....and it is extremely un-American.
 
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Half the guys I went into the army with were heavy. Hell I was 220lbs. After basic Training I was a slim 175. The only thing they did was check to see if you could do a minimum amount of pushups, 13 I think was the minimum number, and if you could you were off to basic training to lose weight by the bucketfulls. They can still do that today.
 
I agree with all of the above. People are in terrible physical shape as a whole, but a toy in a happy meal isn't the problem. All the kids today, generally speaking, exercise is their fingers and thumbs on either a cell phone or a video game. If the San Francisco city government wants to force someone to do something to really help the situation they would force kids to get some physical exercise every day. Can you see it, ghestapo-like officers making kids play ballat the park or run some laps at the track at gun point? Forcing restaurants to not put toys in meals for little kids ain't gonna matter....and it is extremely un-American.

Putting a toy in a box of food is an enticement for the child to choose the meal NOT because of the food inside, but because of the toy. If the food inside the box is unhealthy, then the toy is enticing the child to make a poor choice that is not a healthy one. If McD's put a dog turd in a box and packaged it with a toy to entice children would you still say it is un-American? The turd might do less harm.
 
Putting a toy in a box of food is an enticement for the child to choose the meal NOT because of the food inside, but because of the toy. If the food inside the box is unhealthy, then the toy is enticing the child to make a poor choice that is not a healthy one. If McD's put a dog turd in a box and packaged it with a toy to entice children would you still say it is un-American? The turd might do less harm.
Can you prove to me that McDonalds sold less food to kids PRIOR to the Happy Meal then after it's introduction? Like I said, I was a kid in the late 60's early 70's, they didn't have to put toys in the food for me to want to eat it. I need to be SHOWN that there was a substantial increase in McDonalds consumption by children that corresponds with the introduction of the Happy Meal. Methinks you, and all your dogooder friends CAN'T meet that burden.
 
Putting a toy in a box of food is an enticement for the child to choose the meal NOT because of the food inside, but because of the toy. If the food inside the box is unhealthy, then the toy is enticing the child to make a poor choice that is not a healthy one. If McD's put a dog turd in a box and packaged it with a toy to entice children would you still say it is un-American? The turd might do less harm.

Sometimes you have to just agree to disagree....this is one of those cases. I say it's a stupid thing to have done and you say it's smart government. Different opinions are what make the world go 'round I suppose.
 
I do not understand the thinking that kids would not want to eat hamburgers, fries and soda if a toy did not come with it. If that was the case places like Burger King, Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr. etc, places that do not offer toys, would not have children there but they do.
 
This is exactly the type of government up with which I will not put.

More seriously though. Nannyism in the government proudly proclaimed as a good thing for "freedom" has to be one of the largest pieces of nonsense I have heard in a while.

In this case the government is quite literally stepping in where the Nanny/Mother should for no reason other than to feel like they are doing "something" to solve the problem.

Are video games at Chuck E. Cheese now banned because it is a "toy" served with food? Or is it that they can't give out tokens to play the games as part of a package any longer? Or did they not think of this, and will ignore that particular "toy" that is packaged because their kid wants a birthday party with a cartoon character costumed teenager?

Where is this line drawn? How did they define "toy"? Is the crayon package served at Chili's illegal now, or only if they order actual food?
 
This is exactly the type of government up with which I will not put.

More seriously though. Nannyism in the government proudly proclaimed as a good thing for "freedom" has to be one of the largest pieces of nonsense I have heard in a while.

In this case the government is quite literally stepping in where the Nanny/Mother should for no reason other than to feel like they are doing "something" to solve the problem.

Are video games at Chuck E. Cheese now banned because it is a "toy" served with food? Or is it that they can't give out tokens to play the games as part of a package any longer? Or did they not think of this, and will ignore that particular "toy" that is packaged because their kid wants a birthday party with a cartoon character costumed teenager?

Where is this line drawn? How did they define "toy"? Is the crayon package served at Chili's illegal now, or only if they order actual food?

As has been mentioned previously some McDonald's offer playgrounds which anyone who hangs around little one's know can be quite enticing. Kids love them just as much as toys if not more. If we are banning toys should we also ban the playgrounds? (Now I don't know of any Mickey D's in SF that have playgrounds mostly because of the lack of land but other suburban spots have them).
 
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