I have said the following: When me and my friends were playing up and down Kentucky Drive in my youth none of us I am sure thought that America would fail this profoundly during our lifetime. We were pondering things like do we or do we not want to live on Mars, and when we be able to go.
Ya, I am Zen and we dont get into there being a creator, we are about the here and now, perfecting this life to the best of our ability, but I am pretty sure we losing our natural rights as the Christians have long articulated as fundamental was huge. There is a great argument that the failure of the West is fully caused by the failure of Christianity. The Enlightenment not taking seriously enough spirituality or God was probably the trigger, thats where the West went wrong. Now it is way way way too late for reforms to save us.