Russiagate Shrinks to Flynngate

Jarod said:
If you honestly believe RumpGate is turning into FlynnGate... Why does the FBI have an open criminal investigation into Rump?
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first off it's not into "Trump" It's into Trump and the campaign. we've had lot's of leaks.
Carter Page,Manafort and of course Flynn..there isn't a shred of evidence there was Russian collusion.
Clapper again repeated it yesterday.

I've gone over this before -the FBI will find some stuff like financial improprities -
but the Flynn phone calls to the Russian Ambassador is all you're going to find -and that wasn't any collusion or even wrongdoing
Comey might get a few scalps...the rest of Russiagate is a never was.
 
anatta said:
no there;s not. Russian "interference" replaces Russian collusion.
we knew about the interference before all these Congressional investigations started.

This is now just show-boating ass hattery ,,if there was anything else it would have been leaked
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As some of you folks on the right keep saying, it's early....:D
 
Bill said:
As some of you folks on the right keep saying, it's early....:D
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4 more years? lol
It's true we don't know any Comey hold cards..but there has been nothing at all.

I've always thought it was insane of Trump to ask for Russian to "find her Emails" during the campaign if he was colluding.
Trumps language is of course a complete mess, but I would think even he wouldn't hang himself
 
Do you guys not understand that Rump hired Flynn, after being warned by the President of the United States not to do it... Then lied about knowing that Flynn was compromised and failed to fire Flynn for 18 days after learning that Flynn was both compromised and lied to the VP.

This in and of itself brings serious questions up about Rump and his actions.

Did Rump tell Flynn to have that conversation with the Russians?
Did Flynn disclose that he was on the Russian Payroll when he was vetted by the White House?
Did Rump care that Flynn was being paid by Russian agencies?
Who else was being paid by the Russians?
What are Rumps financial dealings with the Russians?
 
Why is Rump being criminally investigated by the FBI, what justifies such an investigation?
 
Jarod said:
Do you guys not understand that Rump hired Flynn, after being warned by the President of the United States not to do it... Then lied about knowing that Flynn was compromised and failed to fire Flynn for 18 days after learning that Flynn was both compromised and lied to the VP.

This in and of itself brings serious questions up about Rump and his actions.
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Trump was no doubt loyal to Flynn,and Trump valued his endorsement.. Did Trump cling to Flynn too long? Ok

Did Rump tell Flynn to have that conversation with the Russians?
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there was nothing wrong with having a conversation -even about sanctions. nobody cares about the Logan act -
it's normative for an NSA guy to reach out to foreign ambassadors

Did Flynn disclose that he was on the Russian Payroll when he was vetted by the White House?
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he did not disclose the RT payments ( if I recall) and did not register as a Russian foreign agent

Did Rump care that Flynn was being paid by Russian agencies?
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obviously Trump did not know

Who else was being paid by the Russians?
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probably a few, maybe a few. being "paid" is not a problem, anymore then the Clinton Foundation taking donor money while she was Sec. of State..there has to be a quid pro quo -
surely you recall this from the campaign with Hillary access given to donors

What are Rumps financial dealings with the Russians?
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immaterial..again unless there was that quid.
 
anatta said:
Trump was no doubt loyal to Flynn,and Trump valued his endorsement.. Did Trump cling to Flynn too long? Ok


there was nothing wrong with having a conversation -even about sanctions. nobody cares about the Logan act -
it's normative for an NSA guy to reach out to foreign ambassadors


he did not disclose the RT payments ( if I recall) and did not register as a Russian foreign agent


obviously Trump did not know


probably a few, maybe a few. being "paid" is not a problem, anymore then the Clinton Foundation taking donor money while she was Sec. of State..there has to be a quid pro quo -
surely you recall this from the campaign with Hillary access given to donors


immaterial..again unless there was that quid.
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Wow, ok... lets see....

So loyal that he kept Flynn in as NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, a hugely sensitive position after learning he LIED to the VP? He was okay with his National Security Advisers being on the payroll of a Russian agency? You are okay with that type of loyalty? Others were even more loyal than Flynn... they did not get to be National Security Adviser.. even for 18 days.

There was nothing wrong? Flynn BROKE THE LAW, if there was nothing wrong with it, why did he lie to the VP? The Logan Act is the law of the land, I care about it, the FBI cares about it. You don't have to, but most Americans will.

What makes it obvious to you that Rump did not know?

Rump's financial dealings with Russia are very material. Why keep them secret if there was no quid?


You are really drinking the kool aid.
 
No chance for me to have watched that circus yesterday so I tried to google news articles about it. Very telling that the only two things I could find was Yates putting it to Cruz :) and that it took 18 days for Trump to fire Flynn. And those two items were buried by more important news items such as a brawl on a Spirit Airlines flight and some guy named Bonner Bolton quitting DWTS.
Oh, and Shepard Smith came out.
 
Jarod said:
SO desperate, last week they said Rumpgate was dying, not they are trying desperately to limit it to just Flynn.

It came out that Obama warned Rump.
It came out that Yates told Rump Flynn was compromised.
It came out that despite all this Flynn passed the vetting process.

The question for Rump is what happened during those 18 days!
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You dishonest tool. Russiagate is about Trump's supposed COLLUSION with Russia.

You are getting close to Thingy in terms of dishonesty.
 
Thing1 said:
It is - but how many threads can you start about it?

Frankly, it's embarrassing.
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Frankly, it is embarrassing that you are whining about someone making threads about a current event that keeps, well, being current. The news changes on this topic quite often and you're bitching about someone making threads about it.

Go pound sand you whiny tool.
 
Jarod said:
National Review ROTFLMAO
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Prove your claim Jarod. You say it is criminal, yet offer no cites, nothing.

Funny how you liberals bitch when conservatives complain about the source, but have no problem complaining about the source when you don't like it.

Prove it is a criminal investigation or recant.

I do find it a little funny how you ignored all the posts about you not caring about NK hostages when Obama was President. Just more proof you're a Thingy level hack.
 
Jarod said:
Wow, ok... lets see....

So loyal that he kept Flynn in as NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, a hugely sensitive position after learning he LIED to the VP? He was okay with his National Security Advisers being on the payroll of a Russian agency? You are okay with that type of loyalty? Others were even more loyal than Flynn... they did not get to be National Security Adviser.. even for 18 days.

There was nothing wrong? Flynn BROKE THE LAW, if there was nothing wrong with it, why did he lie to the VP? The Logan Act is the law of the land, I care about it, the FBI cares about it. You don't have to, but most Americans will.

What makes it obvious to you that Rump did not know?

Rump's financial dealings with Russia are very material. Why keep them secret if there was no quid?


You are really drinking the kool aid.
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are you always this willfully ignorant?

The RT payments to Flynn were not disclosed by Flynn..so how was Trump's vetting team supposed to know?

Nobody has eve been prosecuted for Logan act violations..why do you care except pure partisan reasons?

Trump's dealings are not "all kept secret"we know of many. This is the same argument you make about his tax returns ..

The OP is "Russiagate shrinks to Flynngate" there is no Russiagate, you can keep hoping there is
but after all this time and investigations there isn't a shred of evidence it exists
 
Yaya said:
Prove your claim Jarod. You say it is criminal, yet offer no cites, nothing.

Funny how you liberals bitch when conservatives complain about the source, but have no problem complaining about the source when you don't like it.

Prove it is a criminal investigation or recant.

I do find it a little funny how you ignored all the posts about you not caring about NK hostages when Obama was President. Just more proof you're a Thingy level hack.
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that's a very good point.. it's NOT a criminal investigation, it's an intelligence investigation
 
Jarod said:
Do you guys not understand that Rump hired Flynn, after being warned by the President of the United States not to do it... Then lied about knowing that Flynn was compromised and failed to fire Flynn for 18 days after learning that Flynn was both compromised and lied to the VP.

This in and of itself brings serious questions up about Rump and his actions.

Did Rump tell Flynn to have that conversation with the Russians?
Did Flynn disclose that he was on the Russian Payroll when he was vetted by the White House?
Did Rump care that Flynn was being paid by Russian agencies?
Who else was being paid by the Russians?
What are Rumps financial dealings with the Russians?
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So what? Did Trump break a law ignoring Obama? Who cares if Obama warned him?

If Obama was so concerned why didn't he have Flynns security clearance revoked?

Are you saying Obama was concerned enough to warn Trump but not so much as to see fit to have security clearance revoked?

I know you and Clingy Thingy hate Trump but I would think at some point common sense would prevail.
 
I Love America said:
So what? Did Trump break a law ignoring Obama? Who cares if Obama warned him?

If Obama was so concerned why didn't he have Flynns security clearance revoked?

Are you saying Obama was concerned enough to warn Trump but not so much as to see fit to have security clearance revoked?

I know you and Clingy Thingy hate Trump but I would think at some point common sense would prevail.
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It's just funny because your hero keeps trying to blame Obama for Flynn.

You don't seem to have noticed yet, but you will: the buck stops virtually anywhere but Trump's desk. He's incapable of admitting he is wrong, or accepting blame for anything. If you weren't so blinded by devotion, that would be pretty easy for you to spot.
 
Thing1 said:
It's just funny because your hero keeps trying to blame Obama for Flynn.

You don't seem to have noticed yet, but you will: the buck stops virtually anywhere but Trump's desk. He's incapable of admitting he is wrong, or accepting blame for anything. If you weren't so blinded by devotion, that would be pretty easy for you to spot.
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When did the buck stop with Obama's desk and when did you hold him to it?

Never is my guess.
 
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