Russia offers Ukraine negotiations for surrender terms.

[moon]

Yeah, like North Korea and Somalia...way to bring in the heavy hitters.

What did North Korea and Somalia ever do to you ?

Oh really?

Historically, that part of the world is home to Judaism, and before the Diaspora, Jews made up the majority of the people who lived there (hence why it was called JUDEA).

You'll find that PALESTINE belongs to PALESTINIANS- a minority of whom were Jewish.

In fact, Jews lived there for thousands and thousands of years before the prophet Mohammed was even a twinkle in his father's eye.

You are actually confusing Palestinians with Islam. That's like confusing New Yorkers with Judaism.

Culturally, that part of the world is home to Judaism and always will be, so in that regard, Israel believes the West Bank and Gaza are a part of the historic Jewish homeland, and the settlers who live there overwhelmingly vote to make that so.

They are not settlers, they are illegal squatters- and they must return to wherever they came from unless they receive Palestinian permission to stay. If they do they will become Palestinian nationals, not Israelis.

So there's little difference between the two, other than your polar opposite position on both.

By now this claim must appear stupid- even to you.




An election not recognized by the international community.

Why are you spreading Russia's propaganda on JPP?[/QUOTE]

 

[LV426]

What did North Korea and Somalia ever do to you ?

Dude. Be serious.

You'll find that PALESTINE belongs to PALESTINIANS- a minority of whom were Jewish.

Who was there first? Not the Muslims. Islam wouldn't appear for about 4400 years after Judaism.

So wouldn't the Jews have the ancestral claim to the land?

You are actually confusing Palestinians with Islam. That's like confusing New Yorkers with Judaism.

LMAO! OK, so what religion is the majority of Palestinians? And they were bedouin tribes mostly, weren't they??? Do bedouins typically stay in one place or do they move around all over the place?

They are not settlers, they are illegal squatters-

Oh, I agree they are squatters, but if we applied the same excuses to Israel/West Bank & Gaza that you use for Russia/Crimea & Donbas we discover that you're a total fucking hypocrite.

hey must return to wherever they came from unless they receive Palestinian permission to stay.

OK, so what if Israel conducts referendum via their proxies in the West Bank and Gaza, and the results of that referendum are overwhelmingly in favor of continued occupation/annexation...would you accept that?

 

[LV426]

By now this claim must appear stupid- even to you.

Actually, what you did was point out just how weak Russia's claim to Ukraine is...weaker than Israel's claim to the WB and Gaza.

 

[moon]

Dude. Be serious.

I am being serious. Most Americans hate whoever the government points the finger at.

Again- what did North Korea and Somalia ever do to you ?

Who was there first? Not the Muslims. Islam wouldn't appear for about 4400 years after Judaism.

So wouldn't the Jews have the ancestral claim to the land?

I can't believe that you could offer such a simpleton claim.
Look- before either dumbass religion took hold Palestine was inhabited by Semitic people , loosely divided into tribes- but the same, indigenous people.
Tribes develop religions and Palestinian tribes were no exception. It doesn't matter one iota which religion developed first as ALL the indigenous people had equal claim to their land. There were, probably, earlier religions than Judaism which simply faded away. The fact that Islam developed later than Judaism does NOT give latter day Jews a greater claim to Palestine than latter day Muslims.

LMAO! OK, so what religion is the majority of Palestinians? And they were bedouin tribes mostly, weren't they??? Do bedouins typically stay in one place or do they move around all over the place?

Completely irrelevant There were periods of hundreds of years when there were next to no Jews in Palestine at all.

Oh, I agree they are squatters, but if we applied the same excuses to Israel/West Bank & Gaza that you use for Russia/Crimea & Donbas we discover that you're a total fucking hypocrite.

OK, asshole- I've attempted to treat you politely. Consider yourself ignorant scum from this point onwards.

OK, so what if Israel conducts referendum via their proxies in the West Bank and Gaza, and the results of that referendum are overwhelmingly in favor of continued occupation/annexation...would you accept that?

You really are a drooling moron. You have not an inkling of comprehension of the Palestinian situation. You're the fucking enemy of reason and that's your future. Now fuck off before your stupidity annoys me.

 

[moon]

Actually, what you did was point out just how weak Russia's claim to Ukraine is...weaker than Israel's claim to the WB and Gaza.

You're a simpleton. Israel is an illegal occupier. Crimea is willingly Russian. Now fuck off and read your comics.

 

[LV426]

I am being serious. Most Americans hate whoever the government points the finger at.
Again- what did North Korea and Somalia ever do to you ?
I can't believe that you could offer such a simpleton claim.
Look- before either dumbass religion took hold Palestine was inhabited by Semitic people , loosely divided into tribes- but the same, indigenous people.
Tribes develop religions and Palestinian tribes were no exception. It doesn't matter one iota which religion developed first as ALL the indigenous people had equal claim to their land. There were, probably, earlier religions than Judaism which simply faded away. The fact that Islam developed later than Judaism does NOT give latter day Jews a greater claim to Palestine than latter day Muslims.
Completely irrelevant There were periods of hundreds of years when there were next to no Jews in Palestine at all.
OK, asshole- I've attempted to treat you politely. Consider yourself ignorant scum from this point onwards.
ou really are a drooling moron. You have not an inkling of comprehension of the Palestinian situation. You're the fucking enemy of reason and that's your future. Now fuck off before your stupidity annoys me.

You're so emotional.

The Jewish claim on Israel is older and has more historical support than Russia's claim over Ukraine.

 

[LV426]

You're a simpleton. Israel is an illegal occupier. Crimea is willingly Russian. Now fuck off and read your comics.

Russia is an illegal occupier too and you're a hypocrite.

 

[moon]

You're so emotional.

The Jewish claim on Israel is older and has more historical support than Russia's claim over Ukraine.

Horseshit. You're a know-nothing propaganda merchant. Fuck off.

 

[moon]

Russia is an illegal occupier too and you're a hypocrite.

Georgia, the Donbas, Crimea- the populations have voted to meld with Russia and their claims have been recognized. Palestine ? You are a prosemitic asshole.

So-called ' Israel Law ' has been declared void at the UN- but the US still supports it. The hypocrites are you and your ilk . Now fuck off- you have absolutely nothing credible to add.