The debate would be in why we disagree. I've taken the time to do nested quotes above all the way to where this really started, back in
post #135, with me saying the certain lines. I'll quote what I wrote in that post below to make it easier to debate:
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When it comes to the war in Ukraine, I certainly think that the west, lead by the U.S., has been the primary aggressor for a long time now. I think the 2014 Euromaidan coup was when things kicked off into high gear. But I certainly don't always agree with Russia's politics. Their views on the LGBTQ movement, for instance:
en.wikipedia.org
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Your response, in
post #160, was to resize the first line of that to a larger font and respond -only- to that line with "Ofcourse you do." Ignored was the second line that got into -why- I believe that, never mind the third line wherein I made it clear that you were mistaken that I always defend "Mother Russia from the big, bad United States", as you put it in
post #133. I decided to only pursue the matter of -why- I believe that the west, lead by the U.S., has been the primary aggressor in the Ukraine conflict for a long time now, so I simply asked you if you knew why I believe the west was the primary aggressor. Your trite was response was "Yes. You've posted your anti-American/pro-Russian conspiracy theories dozens of times."
Do you see how that's a cop out? It's essentially saying that I believe in something that is wrong. No need to actually provide -evidence- that what I believe is wrong. This is a rather easy way to kill a debate. It reminds me of a line once said from the late
David Ray Griffin:
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A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.
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You have, in essence, denounced me as a blasphemer to the sacred mainstream story that Russia is the bad guy.
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