Russia forms brand-new task force to counter NATO buildup in Eastern Europe

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Iskander high-precision missile system

Moscow has been forming a force to counterbalance NATO’s massive military buildup along Russia’s borders in Europe, which will operate along its western and southern borders, according to Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu.


Shoigu named NATO’s military buildup in Eastern Europe, the overall situation in Ukraine, and growing terrorist activity in the Caucasus region as the three principle drivers behind Moscow’s military upgrade.

“In the given conditions, we have to take commensurate reaction measures,” Shoigu said, while speaking at a Defense Ministry board session.

Since 2013, the Defense Ministry has conducted over 200 drills in the southern military district, the minister reported.

Four divisions, nine brigades, and 22 regiments have been formed there from scratch, Shoigu said.

Two of the newly-formed divisions are missile units armed with Iskander-M tactical quasi-ballistic missile complexes that have greatly augmented the proven hard-kill capability of the southern task force.

The minister particularly stressed that, following reunification of Crimea with Russia in 2014, the region has been completely re-armed and the troops deployed there have become a self-sufficient task force armed with Bal and Bastion surface-to-sea anti-ship missile systems, S-300V4 and S-400 air defense missile complexes, and Buk-M2 and Pantsir-S1 (NATO designation SA-22 Greyhound) cannon-missile systems, as well as other upgraded systems.

“As a result, the air defense capability in the southwestern strategic direction has grown by 50 percent,” the minister claimed.

The Black Sea fleet has received brand-new Novorossiysk and Rostov-on-Don submarines armed with Kalibr cruise missiles.
Both the Black Sea fleet and the Caspian Sea flotilla are now operating fast attack guided missile crafts armed with Kalibr cruise missiles.

Over the last three years, the southern military command has added over 4,000 units of new and modernized military hardware altogether.

In addition, the number of contracted professional servicemen serving in the southern task force has grown twofold, Sergey Shoigu said.
https://www.rt.com/news/353599-russia-military-upgrade-nato/
 
we need to ratchet down tensions with Russia. All the weapons systems described here are comparable to what NATO has.
Russian weaponry is on par-or very close to NATO.

Ratcheting down tensions helps avoid war & saves $billions in escalation weapons
 
what i find hilarious about this is germany and france have GDP's worth a lot more than Russia. Maybe multiples more. Yet somehow these countries are incapable of defending themselves without the US :P
 
yeah becuase we need a world that can blow its self as many times as there are countries


why are you righties so fucking stupid ?
 
tsuke said:
what i find hilarious about this is germany and france have GDP's worth a lot more than Russia. Maybe multiples more. Yet somehow these countries are incapable of defending themselves without the US :P
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what part of integrated defense system do you not get?
how about adding the NATO countries capabilities as a so called " force multiplier"

Russia spends a lot, and has upgraded it's weapons for both hard power, and a REACTION to NATO expansionism.

Then it seizes Crimea -destabilizes the east and acts all belligerent during war games.
Meanwhile NATO puts more and more troops along it's border.

Is this not a New Cold War??
Cut it out, it serves neither side. Time to try some accommodation
 
anatta said:
what part of integrated defense system do you not get?
how about adding the NATO countries capabilities as a so called " force multiplier"

Russia spends a lot, and has upgraded it's weapons for both hard power, and a REACTION to NATO expansionism.

Then it seizes Crimea -destabilizes the east and acts all belligerent during war games.
Meanwhile NATO puts more and more troops along it's border.

Is this not a New Cold War??
Cut it out, it serves neither side. Time to try some accommodation
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actually i wanted to ask you something. Let us say for some strange reason Russia invaded estonia tomorrow. Do you think Obama would declare war and send in the troops?

FYI i want an alliance with russia. As far as im concerned Europe killed itself under merkel and we need a new reliable ally
 
tsuke said:
actually i wanted to ask you something. Let us say for some strange reason Russia invaded estonia tomorrow. Do you think Obama would declare war and send in the troops?

FYI i want an alliance with russia. As far as im concerned Europe killed itself under merkel and we need a new reliable ally
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you are not going to get an alliance with Russia at the expense of Europe. The best you can get is a détente-which is all that's needed.
Russian expansionism is tieing into Chinese hegemony, and -where convenient - Iran in the mideast

This is what you need to know about NATO colective defense to incursions:

Collective defence - Article 5
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm
 
anatta said:
you are not going to get an alliance with Russia at the expense of Europe. The best you can get is a détente-which is all that's needed.
Russian expansionism is tieing into Chinese hegemony, and -where convenient - Iran in the mideast

This is what you need to know about NATO colective defense to incursions:

Collective defence - Article 5
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm
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ok given article 5 which very clearly states that we have to go to war to defend NATO countries. Do you think if Russia invades Estonia tomorrow we would go to war?
 
tsuke said:
ok given article 5 which very clearly states that we have to go to war to defend NATO countries. Do you think if Russia invades Estonia tomorrow we would go to war?
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Russian incursion into the Baltics -which are NATO, could not be overlooked -a direct answer is "yes".

Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and it can be argued Sevastopol (Crimea) needs to be linked by land to Russia
so we could let that slide with just sanctions
 
What do we care if Russia is building up against NATO, we arnt going to honor those commitments anyway.

Come to think about it, maybe that's why Russia is building up... getting ready for inauguration day.
 
Jarod said:
What do we care if Russia is building up against NATO, we arnt going to honor those commitments anyway.

Come to think about it, maybe that's why Russia is building up... getting ready for inauguration day.
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So Russia can just tromp around NATO nations without consequences. Why hasn't Putin already done so?

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anatta said:
Russian incursion into the Baltics -which are NATO, could not be overlooked -a direct answer is "yes".

Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and it can be argued Sevastopol (Crimea) needs to be linked by land to Russia
so we could let that slide with just sanctions
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honestly i think that we wont. Mainly because the politicians know the american public is not ready for another war.
 
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