Russia and Ukraine just signed a grain export deal

ExpressLane

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The deal, if adhered to, will allow for the resumption of exporting grain and lessen the chance of widespread famine. Let's see if they follow the deal.
 
Good citizenship is a core value of the Empire, being the cause of global famine will not do. On the other hand they will continue to accuse America and the West of pushing for it. Note that the parties of this deal are Turkey, the UN, Russia and Ukraine.....the West is not included....being clear that the UN is now dominated by China.
 
Good citizenship is a core value of the Empire, being the cause of global famine will not do. On the other hand they will continue to accuse America and the West of pushing for it. Note that the parties of this deal are Turkey, the UN, Russia and Ukraine.....the West is not included....being clear that the UN is now dominated by China.

The Chinese have proven more confused by all this, and not in control. There is no way they would have left their citizens in Ukraine knowing it was going to be invaded. And they do not control the UN.

Turkey on the other hand is sometimes a stand in for the USA. They got a guarantee that NATO ships could enforce the treaty, which includes the USA.
 
No doubt the Ukrainians will now try to fabricate a Russian breach of the agreement.
 
Not fabricating, but clearly Russia struck Odessa's port within a day of saying they would not.

I'm reading that there was minimal damage, nobody was killed and grain export facilities are intact. Ukrainians refuse to allow the scene to be documented. What was the point of this ' word-breaking attack ' ?
 
I did not think Russia would honor their word and unfortunately I was right. The US should tell Ukraine that we will give them long range HIMARS if Russia continues to block shipment or grain or attacks the port in Obelisk
 
I did not think Russia would honor their word and unfortunately I was right. The US should tell Ukraine that we will give them long range HIMARS if Russia continues to block shipment or grain or attacks the port in Obelisk

Already done- and some already destroyed. The numbers destroyed are not known.
 
I'm reading that there was minimal damage, nobody was killed and grain export facilities are intact. Ukrainians refuse to allow the scene to be documented. What was the point of this ' word-breaking attack ' ?
Any attack on the port or ships makes insurance on the ships impossible to obtain.
 
Already done- and already destroyed. The numbers destroyed are not known.
The pentagon just sent 4 more HIMARS to Ukraine totaling 16 so far. Russia is pulling back its storage depots because so many have been destroyed so far. We have just sent short range HIMARS not the long range HIMARS. Do you have any photographic proof of HIMAR destruction.
 
Already done- and some already destroyed. The numbers destroyed are not known.

During a Pentagon briefing on July 20, U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, confirmed that Russia had not destroyed a single HIMARS provided to Ukraine. The top general also reiterated that the Ukrainian military had been “very effective” at using them against Russia.
https://kyivindependent.com/national/why-is-russia-so-vulnerable-to-himars-in-ukraine
 
During a Pentagon briefing on July 20, U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, confirmed that Russia had not destroyed a single HIMARS provided to Ukraine. The top general also reiterated that the Ukrainian military had been “very effective” at using them against Russia.

He lied.
 
I saw a report that the Ukrainians are not actually running the systems, citizens of the West are.....something that the Empire has surely noted and will remember. America has already admitted to providing the targeting.
I heard Ukrainians were trained on HIMARS in a nearby NATO country. The training took about 3 weeks. HIMARS are reportedly fairly easy to use.
 
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