Rudy to Trump: Pay my legal bills or else?

[MAGA MAN]

There's nothing to "roll" on.

 

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Trump is immoral and teflon. He has tons of retards who adore him. He wont pay a penny and Rudy will eat it.

Exactly, as noted, Trump can do anything he wants knowing a major political party and national news network will defend him regardless, January 6th proved that, he is as bill barr preached, above the law

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No, you missed the point, Trump knows that after January 6th he is never ever going to be convicted of anything that will table or even delay his plans, and he is correct

Trump thinks all sorts of stupid shit. What Trump "knows" is often wrong. Sure, the Republican leadership want to be on his good side, but the Republican ship is taking on water. 2022 will either give the Democrats a tighter grip on Congress or see one or both sides of Congress flip red. Not by much, but it'd still be the Republicans running the committees.

That said, I fail to see how the Republicans can continue to spout the same Trumpian bullshit and gain votes. Americans may be slow but they aren't stupid.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Exactly, as noted, Trump can do anything he wants knowing a major political party and national news network will defend him regardless, January 6th proved that, he is as bill barr preached, above the law

I'd bet against that. It's one thing to look the other way, it's another to be part of the conspiracy.

 

[Phantasmal]

Conundrum for Trump, are his conversations with Rudy protected or not? He claims Rudy is not his lawyer, so how can he claim lawyer/client privilege?

 

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Trump thinks all sorts of stupid shit. What Trump "knows" is often wrong. Sure, the Republican leadership want to be on his good side, but the Republican ship is taking on water. 2022 will either give the Democrats a tighter grip on Congress or see one or both sides of Congress flip red. Not by much, but it'd still be the Republicans running the committees.

That said, I fail to see how the Republicans can continue to spout the same Trumpian bullshit and gain votes. Americans may be slow but they aren't stupid.

There is no GOP, Republicans aren’t doing anything in any directions on anything without Trump’s blessing, he owns it, one hundred percent.

And Trump doesn’t have to think it, it is true, he is above the law, January 6th proved it, he can pretty much do anything he wants without worrying about consequences

 

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I'd bet against that. It's one thing to look the other way, it's another to be part of the conspiracy.

Short of that actual murder on 5th Avenue Trump referenced back in 2015, he can literally get away with anything, as I noted, regardless of what he did, he will have a political party, news network, and close to forty percent of America defending him

It is a hard reality to accept, one few Americans would hate to recognize, but a truth none the less

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There is no GOP, Republicans aren’t doing anything in any directions on anything without Trump’s blessing, he owns it, one hundred percent.

And Trump doesn’t have to think it, it is true, he is above the law, January 6th proved it, he can pretty much do anything he wants without worrying about consequences

Agreed the GOP effectively killed itself. It was mortally wounded during the 2000 election, but the assholes who elected and supported Trump to the end killed it.

Regardless, all Republicans, and Democrats for that matter, have to win reelection. Election is up to their constituents, not the Stable Genius.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Short of that actual murder on 5th Avenue Trump referenced back in 2015, he can literally get away with anything, as I noted, regardless of what he did, he will have a political party, news network, and close to forty percent of America defending him

It is a hard reality to accept, one few Americans would hate to recognize, but a truth none the less

Time will tell but I'd bet against it. Again, it's one thing to look the other way and another to be an active participant in corruption.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Conundrum for Trump, are his conversations with Rudy protected or not? He claims Rudy is not his lawyer, so how can he claim lawyer/client privilege?

My understanding is that if Rudy was part of the conspiracy, all privilege is lost.

Remember OJ's friend and initial lawyer? Me neither but he quit and OJ hired his "Dream Team". The suspicion at the time was that OJ confessed to his friend that he was all coked up and murdered Nicole. No lawyer can say a person is innocent if they are known to be guilty. They can plead insanity, self-defense,whatever but not "100% Not Guilty". This is why his friend removed himself as counsel, but helped pick the "Dream Team", some of who were also OJ friends.

 

[Phantasmal]

My understanding is that if Rudy was part of the conspiracy, all privilege is lost.

Remember OJ's friend and initial lawyer? Me neither but he quit and OJ hired his "Dream Team". The suspicion at the time was that OJ confessed to his friend that he was all coked up and murdered Nicole. No lawyer can say a person is innocent if they are known to be guilty. They can plead insanity, self-defense,whatever but not "100% Not Guilty". This is why his friend removed himself as counsel, but helped pick the "Dream Team", some of who were also OJ friends.

I didn’t know that! Crazy

 

[Jack]

Rudy's ship is sinking fast as his legal debts begin to climb.

Here's a reality: People who can't afford lawyers will make plea deals.

Rudy's legal bills could shoot into tens of millions if he fights it to a "not guilty" verdict...in every legal case against him.

Otherwise he's better off making plea bargains.

Prosecutors aren't as friendly about making deals in the middle of a trial. Rudy needs a plan before this goes to trial; he either needs money or he needs to make a deal. Any deal, of course, would including spilling everything he knows about illegal activities**. If anyone has dirt on Trump, it's Rudy.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-allies-press-trump-help-pay-legal-bills-nyt-2021-5
Rudy Giuliani allies are pressuring Trump to help pay his former attorney's growing legal bills, report says

• Allies of Rudy Giuliani are pressing Trump to give financial help to his former lawyer, NYT reports.
• Giuliani faces a federal investigation and two huge lawsuits over his work as Trump's attorney.
• Trump has reportedly still not paid Giuliani for his work seeking to overturn last year's election.

...The campaign to secure financial help for Giuliani has gained new urgency with the FBI raiding Giuliani's offices and home in Manhattan last week as part of an investigation into whether he acted as an unregistered agent for foreign officials in Ukraine...

...Dominion and Smartmatic, two voting-systems companies, have separately filed multi-billion lawsuits against Giuliani after the lawyer groundlessly claimed the companies had flipped Trump votes as part of a plot.




**correct me if I'm wrong, but if lawyers are part of the criminal conspiracy there is no privilege attached.

Poor Rudy. Facing the State. Unlimited Money. Unlimited Manpower. Unlimited Time.

Trump better get his mind right about this.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I didn’t know that! Crazy

An experienced lawyer won't ask "Did you do it?"

FWIW, before he died Kardashian expressed he doubted OJ's innocence. Duh. No shit.

https://www.halt.org/who-was-oj-simpsons-lawyer/
Following Simpson’s acquittal, the relationship between the two once-close friends soured. In 1996, Robert Kardashian mentioned to ABC News that he was suspicious of the innocence of Simpson. He clearly said that he had doubts with the blood evidence. He also told this to author Larry Schiller in an interview for the latter’s book “American Tragedy”, which analyzed the trial and criminal defense team of OJ Simpson lawyers

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Poor Rudy. Facing the State. Unlimited Money. Unlimited Manpower. Unlimited Time.

Trump better get his mind right about this.

The State doesn't have unlimited money as the decisions in Portland proved, but, yes, both the Feds and some States want a piece of Rudy. LOL

Didn't Rudy lead the stolen election legal fight in all 50 states or was it only a dozen or so? Perjury is a crime.

Rudy is going to look like the Princess getting ass-fucked if he doesn't come up with some money or cut a deal.

 

[Jack]

The State doesn't have unlimited money as the decisions in Portland proved, but, yes, both the Feds and some States want a piece of Rudy. LOL

Didn't Rudy lead the stolen election legal fight in all 50 states or was it only a dozen or so? Perjury is a crime.

Rudy is going to look like the Princess getting ass-fucked if he doesn't come up with some money or cut a deal.

What's Trump do? NOT pay Rudy's Bills?


I LOVE watching Trump get hard fucked ... BY RUDY!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What's Trump do? NOT pay Rudy's Bills?


I LOVE watching Trump get hard fucked ... BY RUDY!

I'm curious but think Trump is a fucking moron who'll throw Rudy under the bus and end up screwing himself. Sure, Trump will throw away a billion dollars to keep himself out of jail, but I doubt he'll spend a penny on Rudy.

Let's not forget he hasn't paid Rudy for all of those "stolen election" hearings.

 

[Jack]

I'm curious but think Trump is a fucking moron who'll throw Rudy under the bus and end up screwing himself. Sure, Trump will throw away a billion dollars to keep himself out of jail, but I doubt he'll spend a penny on Rudy.

Let's not forget he hasn't paid Rudy for all of those "stolen election" hearings.

This is GREAT! I'm waiting for all the shit to hit the fan right before the next election season. Trump will be getting peppered from all directions. He won't know which way is up.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

This is GREAT! I'm waiting for all the shit to hit the fan right before the next election season. Trump will be getting peppered from all directions. He won't know which way is up.

LOL. I'm looking forward to it too.

 

[Grumpy]

Allies of Rudy Giuliani are pressing Trump to give financial help to his former lawyer, NYT reports.

There goes the accuracy and varacity of the story

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There goes the accuracy and varacity of the story

Don't judge a book by it's cover; check the facts. Learn and use Critical Thinking. Learn to separate fact from opinion and then learn how to verify facts.

If you can't do any of these things, then you are hurting yourself. Employers and bosses like people who can tell the difference between fact and fiction/spin.