Roy Moore: I may have dated teenagers

Buckly J. Ewer said:
It's not a pure smear under any measure. Moore besmirched his own character by admitting that as a powerful and influential man in his thirties he dated children...He smeared himself.
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He certainly did himself no favors on Hannity, but I dispute your interpretation of his statements, Brother Buckly.

In any case, I suspect you and many others are predisposed to declare him guilty no matter what he says or doesn't say.

Again, please ask me if I've robbed a bank so I can illustrate the fallacy of your thinking on that point.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Moore was a controversial character within the GOP before his predilections for dating children came to light ...
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Alleged predilections, Buckly, and the age at which he "dated" the women in question is in dispute, as you know. So is the allegation of dating said women.

I myself do not care for Mr. Moore, and neither does our glorious president, who backed Moore's opponent in the recent primary.

Those matters are immaterial in our consideration of the current situation.
 
God bless America said:
He certainly did himself no favors on Hannity, but I dispute your interpretation of his statements, Brother Buckly.

In nay case, I suspect you and many others are predisposed to declare him guilty no matter what he says or doesn't say.

Again, please ask me if I've robbed a bank so I can illustrate the fallacy of your thinking on that point.
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It's not a question of guilt...
It's a question of character and judgement...
On that count, Moore loses.
The decision of a man in his thirties to date children has nothing to do with bank robbery.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
It's not a question of guilt...It's a question of character and judgement...On that count, Moore loses. The decision of a man in his thirties to date children has nothing to do with bank robbery.
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I take exception to your conclusions on logical grounds, Brother Buckly.

Unfortunately, my sources now indicate that your time together on this forum may be drawing to an end.

May I say that I hope you obtain mercy from the moderators?

I feel as though you and are I close. Very close.

I hope I shall have the pleasure of discussing things with you again.
 
God bless America said:
He certainly did himself no favors on Hannity, but I dispute your interpretation of his statements, Brother Buckly.

In nay case, I suspect you and many others are predisposed to declare him guilty no matter what he says or doesn't say.

Again, please ask me if I've robbed a bank so I can illustrate the fallacy of your thinking on that point.
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It matters not if I believe he is guilty of anything Brother Godless. I won't be judging his character in a voting booth next month...
The people of Alabama will...
He hung himself with many of them.
 
God bless America said:
I take exception to your conclusions on logical grounds, Brother Buckly.

Unfortunately, my sources now indicate that your time together on this forum may be drawing to an end.

May I say that I hope you obtain mercy from the moderators?

I feel as though you and are I close. Very close.

I hope I shall have the pleasure of discussing things with you again.
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So do I Brother...
Good game in nay event...

Lol
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
It matters not if I believe he is guilty of anything Brother Godless. I won't be judging his character in a voting booth next month... The people of Alabama will...He hung himself with many of them.
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So you may hope, Brother Buckly, just as you may hope for a miracle of mercy from the moderator team.
 
Damocles said:
It's the way he talks about it that is beyond uncomfortable. "I don't remember going on dates with her, but if we went on dates we went on dates."

I can remember that when I was 32 I went on zero dates with anybody that was less than 21... Ever. It didn't happen. I don't need to quibble or equivocate. I don't need to say things like, "She thinks maybe she was too young but maybe not" for that one he bought wine for.

Seriously, he is not helping himself at all. He's fumbling around on confused mode.
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Agreed but I don’t think it’s going to make a difference. I’d be shocked if he loses.
 
Damocles said:
Somewhat true but if that is sarcasm, he needs lessons. He's fumbling around and screwing himself. He'll hand over a sure bet for Rs to Ds just by being a bumbling idiot.
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Oh I doubt that. It may reduce his margin of victory but rural Alabama voters will largely see it as a dirty Democratic political attack and will circle the wagons. Moore will win and enhance Alabama’s reputation as a social, political and cultural backwater.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
she wasn’t a minor you atterpated dimwit.
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I didn't say she was, cancer patient.

Are you seriously suggesting that unproven allegations regarding minors require that a candidate drop out of a race, but allegations against a sitting president don't require that officeholder to resign because his sex toy was over the age of consent?

If so it must be brain cancer that's killing you.
 
NOVA said:
I believe Moore's accusers....that being said why didn't you believe any of this ?

Juanita Broaddrick accused Clinton of rape; Kathleen Willey accused Clinton of groping her without consent; and Paula Jones accused Clinton of exposing himself and sexually harassing her.
and you let him walk and still to this very day idolize him....a rapist...

you really have the to balls to call others hypocrites....
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Oh no! How dare Democrats attack a Republican over his sex life! Why only the GOP is allowed to do that! Look at he Difference between Clinton and Moore was Clinton is the allegations, after $40 million dollars of tax payers were spent was that they lacked merit. Moore should have to undergo a similar level of scrutiny to determine the factual basis of these allegations and if they are without merit than he will be obsolved.

What you’re whining about is advocating a double standard. One for Democrats but a far lower standard for Republicans. Now considering a minor was allegedly involved with Moore your double standard is reprehensible and indicates just what a partisan hack you really are.
 
NOVA said:
Absolutely nothing, and its hard to make the case against Moore in a court of law too....
The point is hypocrisy....and judging a person on allegations alone....
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I absolutely agree. Why Judge Moore at the least should get the same level of consideration that Bill Clinton did. Right?
 
Thing1 said:
It's not a contradiction. If someone thinks it's a "sham allegation," they're saying that the accused is lying. I think the accused deserves the same "innocent until proven guilty" benefit of the doubt - they are innocent of lying until someone proves otherwise.

It's not contradictory. It's allowing both sides their day in court. Victims have been vilified for WAY too long.
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I don’t know about that but these are serious allegations and both the accuser and the accused deserve an investigation to determine what the actual facts are.
 
Thing1 said:
The bolded is true, but the accuser deserves his/her own shroud of innocence. I hate seeing accusers attacked and their credibility undermined in a baseless way - and yes, that included Clinton's accusers, who I thought had their character discredited in an organized & merciless way.

I didn't vote for Hillary largely because of that and her Iraq vote.
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hey if you’re accusing someone of a serious crime then all is fair including the accusers character as obviously the accused character is being attacked. It’s unfortunate and maybe not fair but the facts should be known.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I don’t know about that but these are serious allegations and both the accuser and the accused deserve an investigation to determine what the actual facts are.
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Except that the allegations are unlikely to ever be proven, unless Moore confesses.

It seems more likely to me that the allegations were made to secure a Senate seat for Doug Jones and a settlement with no admission of wrongdoing for the accusers.
 
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