ROTFLMAO!

Whether or not Libertarians have good ideas, or not, is immaterial until they can demonstrate that they can actually accomplish something.

As I have said before one of the shortest reads in the world is "Significant accomplishments by Libertarians". Until Libertarians can accomplish more than being a bunch of white guys sitting their underwear arguing on message boards it's hard to take them seriously.

the establisment appreciates your support and cooperation by remaining ignorant to reality. they are also offering lifetime memberships to their suckers club for higher taxes.
 
Because like Trumps chances of being elected POTUS, Sarah Palin is the biggest joke in politics. :)

That's why it's funny. :)

Riiiigggghhhhtttttttt. Joe Biden, Al Gore, John Kerry. They are absolute jokes. You're just an ideologue.

Sarah is nothing special, but she's pretty main stream intelligence for a politician. The greatest thing I admire about her is the grace she handles left wing misogyny of leftists determined to show every bitch what happens when a woman dares to defy them.

And you still can't answer what the policy differences are between you and your socialist friends you claim are to the left of you.
 
Other than the United States of America, yes, our list of achievements in modern times is pretty limited. But despite our relentless drive to the train wreck that is socialism the Democrats are pushing and the Republicans are useless in stopping, we're still almost 30% the global economy. You can call that insignificant, I don't
Your list of accomplishments is virtually non-existent and as long as you say dumb things, like equating public services with the form of socialism common to command economies, no one will take you seriously.

I mean is seems to me that the only thing you recognize as NOT being socialism is laissez-faire Capitalism. Which by any objective measure is as failed an economic system as communism and if that is what you support as national economic policy than you deserve to be utterly ignored.
 
I don't know if the Government can run our healthcare system, but clearly the private sector cant.

BINGO!

The private sector had their chance and they BLEW it.

Nothing but rampant greed and "quality of care" determined by your ability to pay.
 
Your list of accomplishments is virtually non-existent and as long as you say dumb things, like equating public services with the form of socialism common to command economies, no one will take you seriously.

No idea what you're talking about. What "public services" did I say are socialism? Can you do something you really don't like to do? Back up your sweeping claims?

You know, like that you are different than your socialist buds you keep claiming while you can't come up with any actual policy differences?

I mean is seems to me that the only thing you recognize as NOT being socialism is laissez-faire Capitalism. Which by any objective measure is as failed an economic system as communism and if that is what you support as national economic policy than you deserve to be utterly ignored.

It depends what you mean by that. Government certainly should provide criminal courts to address crimes, like fraud, and civil courts for civil wrongs, like breach of contract. But no, government has no business dictating the free interactions between it's citizens, even if the basis of that interaction is evil money...
 
BINGO!

The private sector had their chance and they BLEW it.

Nothing but rampant greed and "quality of care" determined by your ability to pay.

It's interesting how to slow minded liberals, the industries you keep pointing to as the examples of the failure of free markets ... are continually the most highly regulated by government markets ...
 
No idea what you're talking about. What "public services" did I say are socialism? Can you do something you really don't like to do? Back up your sweeping claims?

You know, like that you are different than your socialist buds you keep claiming while you can't come up with any actual policy differences?



It depends what you mean by that. Government certainly should provide criminal courts to address crimes, like fraud, and civil courts for civil wrongs, like breach of contract. But no, government has no business dictating the free interactions between it's citizens, even if the basis of that interaction is evil money...
Well lets be clear, I'm not a socialist. I at least understand what socialism is and that's my criticism of you. Reforms to public services that are failing in the market place are not socialism. I also understand that there are often times that market is unable to provide services because the market is either unable to or cannot do so cost affectively so if, for example, the PPACA is socialism, than roads are socialism, the military is socialism, public utilities are socialism, public education is socialism, public transportation is socialism, infrastructure built with tax payer money is socialism, etc, etc.

So when you hear someone who doesn't know what socialism is and who preys at the alter of the completely unregulated market you tend to roll your eyes and say "This person doesn't understand how things work in reality".

Recognizing that the market has it's limits and is not, nor cannot be, the solution to all our problems is NOT SOCIALISM.
 
Well lets be clear, I'm not a socialist. I at least understand what socialism is and that's my criticism of you.

You're not a socialist, but you still can't list anything specific. LOL

Reforms to public services that are failing in the market place are not socialism. I also understand that there are often times that market is unable to provide services because the market is either unable to or cannot do so cost affectively so

Again, no specifics

if, for example, the PPACA is socialism, than roads are socialism, the military is socialism, public utilities are socialism, public education is socialism, public transportation is socialism, infrastructure built with tax payer money is socialism, etc, etc.
This is comic. If redistribution of money between citizens and controlling our personal medical choices is socialism, then the roads and the military are socialism. You forgot the rim shot.

Your examples are all over the board. Many being things that even small government libertarians support. Like roads and the military. This is a ridiculous post
So when you hear someone who doesn't know what socialism is and who preys at the alter of the completely unregulated market you tend to roll your eyes and say "This person doesn't understand how things work in reality".

Recognizing that the market has it's limits and is not, nor cannot be, the solution to all our problems is NOT SOCIALISM.

So when you keep hearing someone say he's not a socialist who answers the question how he's different than a socialist by saying he's not an anarchist, you know at some point he can't answer the question and is deflecting
 
The two Reality TV stars of the Republican Party in a love fest.

They are both entertainers who know next to nothing about government, how it works, or how to manage it. They seem to have a very little historical knowledge of how America got here or the ideals we were founded upon. They both respect power and toughness and not intelligence or thoughtfulness. They depend on the side show for popularity. They are anti-intellectuals and pro nationalism.
 
You're not a socialist, but you still can't list anything specific. LOL



Again, no specifics


This is comic. If redistribution of money between citizens and controlling our personal medical choices is socialism, then the roads and the military are socialism. You forgot the rim shot.

Your examples are all over the board. Many being things that even small government libertarians support. Like roads and the military. This is a ridiculous post


So when you keep hearing someone say he's not a socialist who answers the question how he's different than a socialist by saying he's not an anarchist, you know at some point he can't answer the question and is deflecting
I sure did list specifics. I listed your criticism of the PPACA.
 
I sure did list specifics. I listed your criticism of the PPACA.

So you gave me a list of things, some of which I think are legitimate government functions, others I don't, that was your "specifics" on what you disagree with socialists on. Got it. You forgot the rim shot.

Wow, I thought Canadians were dumb. They have nothing on Ohioans.

We are both not anarchists, BTW. I like your black and white. Oh, you're not a socialist kaz? That makes you an anarchist. Um no, it doesn't. The difference between us is I'm not a socialist, and I know why...

As for Obamacare, it's pure redistribution of wealth, of course it's socialism. That you think redistribution of wealth makes roads socialism while being inane still doesn't say anything about what you disagree with socialists on
 
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