Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters

No they aren't a large part, or even a part of who Romney was referring to. That is YOUR INTERJECTION! That is YOUR MISINTERPRETATION! That is what you are now LYING and trying to CLAIM he meant, but it's certainly NOT what the man said.

No, it isn't my interpretation of anything. We know the composition of the 46% of tax filers that do not have federal income tax liability and the bulk of that group are elderly people who receive tax breaks because they are elderly people.
 
No they aren't a large part, or even a part of who Romney was referring to. That is YOUR INTERJECTION! That is YOUR MISINTERPRETATION! That is what you are now LYING and trying to CLAIM he meant, but it's certainly NOT what the man said.
well yea, yea it is Dixie. The overwhelming majority of seniors don't pay federal income taxes. What's ironic is that the majority of seniors vote Republican. The dumb ass just insulted one of his most important constituencies! LOL
 
Paraphrasing Liberals: Hey old people, hurry up and die, you are a burden on society and we need your retirement money to fund more welfare programs! Hey old farts, why don't you just croak yourselves, you're of no use to society and we shouldn't have to pay your way!

WOW.... I can't believe liberals would say such things, but by golly, there it is! You just have to understand "liberal code!"
 
No they aren't a large part, or even a part of who Romney was referring to. That is YOUR INTERJECTION! That is YOUR MISINTERPRETATION! That is what you are now LYING and trying to CLAIM he meant, but it's certainly NOT what the man said.

It's hilarious, the lengths you'll go to.

You seem to be incapable of grasping that no matter how much frothing you do, you're not going to convince anyone of reasonable intelligence that Romney gives a shit about anyone but his rich pals.

That's why your assertion of 'what he really meant' is laughable.
 
No, it isn't my interpretation of anything. We know the composition of the 46% of tax filers that do not have federal income tax liability and the bulk of that group are elderly people who receive tax breaks because they are elderly people.

well yea, yea it is Dixie. The overwhelming majority of seniors don't pay federal income taxes. What's ironic is that the majority of seniors vote Republican. The dumb ass just insulted one of his most important constituencies! LOL

Neither of you have supported your claims. Romney was referring to the fact that 47% of the country doesn't pay tax, and most of them believe government should pay for their stuff. He didn't mention retired people who are drawing Social Security benefits to which they are completely entitled to.
 
isn't it odd that the liberals who object to his statement have yet to point to any of his statement and identify something in it that isn't true......

There are mny things in his statement that aren't true, but first we would have to see where he is getting his numbers, what kind of fuzzy math he is using!
 
Neither of you have supported your claims. Romney was referring to the fact that 47% of the country doesn't pay tax, and most of them believe government should pay for their stuff. He didn't mention retired people who are drawing Social Security benefits to which they are completely entitled to.


I posted both a link and a chart in support of my claims from the source of the 47% statistic.

Dumbass.
 
How about a chart:

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And a link:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/1001547-Why-No-Income-Tax.pdf

Thanks... that was an interesting read.

edit: sorry, almost forgot... that is a liberal douche bag site, they be evilz and nothing the ever say can be correct
 
Guess what, genus, the base doesn't decided the outcome of a national election. The middle, the independents, the moderates... WE get to decide who is the next President.

I liked the Mitt Romney who was the governor of Massachusetts; he knew how to solve problems by working WITHIN the framework of the safety net traditions started by FDR. These safety net traditions began out of necessity. Americans believe in personal responsibility, but when we see our neighbors experiencing hard times, we know that could happen to anyone, anywhere. A factory closes not because the workers didn't manage the business correctly or because the workers WANTED their jobs moved off shore--and when a factory closes it effects the shops and stores that serve the factory workers. There, by the grace of God, go I. WE understand the notion of 'less fortunate'. WE know that everybody pays taxes. Everyone with a paycheck has federal withholding. WE understand that the marriage tax credit helps working families during the economic recovery, and we know that the "47% pay no tax" is a misleading talking point. (apparently the wealthy country club donors are not as smart as us independent voters).

Imagine the waiters, the catering staff at that event, working a second job to feed their kids or a part-time job to pay for textbooks. They had to hear that because they don't OWE any federal tax liability on April 15, they are a bunch of freeloaders.

Try to wrap your tiny head around this concept: It's not President Obama who is provoking class warfare. Mitt Romney telling half the people in this country that he doesn't care about them, he does't care about seniors, veterans, poor families, handicapped, or anyone who lost their job because of economic conditions beyond their control. Mitt Romney said these Americans don't matter because they don't make enough money to OWE a federal tax liability on April 15.

They have no skin in the game? Many have lost everything they had, and many seniors on a fixed income are only getting buy with help from their adult children.

Mitt Romney basically said that veterans returning from Afghanistan who don't already have a middle-income job are freeloaders not caring for themselves.

Mitt Romney basically said that lower income children are freeloaders because they are hungry at lunchtime.

Mitt Romney basically said that anyone not working and OWING a federal income tax liability on April 15 is not worth his time.

Thanks, very well stated. This is a man who makes his living being employed by the gubment, isn't it ironic!
 
No, he did not say what you are claiming he said. He just, quite simply, didn't say that! He didn't even IMPLY it! He didn't mention elderly people, he didn't mention social security or medicare,

Any logical interpretation of what he said (47% not earning enough to owe federal income tax + relying on government assistance or entitlement program) would include seniors, veterans, and working poor. They are included in that 47%. You can not dispute that fact.

**Seniors worked their lives, paying into a program that they are now entitled to enroll in.

**Veterans transitioning from service to domestic lives.

**Working poor, not earning enough to owe federal income tax after legal deductions.




he didn't say anyone was a layabout.

Yeah, he did.

who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.

....

I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.

He painted a negative picture of President Obama supporters by making an overly-broad and misleading statement about "47%"

He didn't say that a tiny percentage of that 47% unfortunately stay on welfare by choice, perhaps lacking a work ethic, and that is a shame--this is a problem that needs addressing as we continued to get the majority of poor Americans who want to work employed in jobs that allow them to provide for their families. He didn't offer that nuanced distinction.

He didn't say, within that 47% are veterans and seniors who qualify for entitlement programs that they've earned and were promised to them.

He didn't say, within that 47% are families of all races using food stamps to feed their children--We as a compassionate nation support that.

He didn't say, within that 47% poor children get medical care--We as a compassionate nation support that.

He didn't say, a portion of that 47% don't owe federal income tax because of the marriage tax credit. They simply don't earn enough for us to tax them.

All he said was that 47% expect something from government and they don't pay income tax. You can parse, make excuses, paraphrase, but you can't change the calm tone of his voice, the casual manner in which he dismissed seniors, veterans, and the working poor.
 
There are mny things in his statement that aren't true, but first we would have to see where he is getting his numbers, what kind of fuzzy math he is using!

Where are liberals getting their numbers? Retired people don't pay income tax because they are retired and no longer earn an income. That was not who Romney was referring to. Social Security is not an entitlement that people feel the government owes them, and Romney didn't claim it was or imply it. That is what YOU are claiming he meant, so it must be what you believe! Revealing, isn't it?

The most glaring contradiction is the assumption that ALL Social Security retirees are voting for Obama! Not only are you trying to lump them all in with the welfare queens and deadbeats, you are claiming this is who Romney was targeting with his comments, when he said nothing remotely close to that. The 47% number Romney mentioned, does not include retirees on Social Security. He is referring to the 47% who are a part of the current workforce in America (retirees are not) who do not pay any federal income tax, and who believe that government owes them stuff. I happen to personally know a bunch of people who draw SS retirement benefits, who don't believe the government owes them stuff. So there again, is a glaring contradiction.
 
The irony is that Romney has probably taken more from the government in terms of services and corporate welfare by far than you're average citizen. Considering how hard the average middle class and working class has to work to make this the great nation that it is, it sure is insulting as hell to hear some patrician call us all a bunch of welfare moochers.

Fuck you Romney! Who the fuck are you? You've never done an honest days work in your life you god damned born with a silver spoon in your mouth hypocrite. You haven't the first fucking clue!

Amen and Amen!
 
Neither of you have supported your claims. Romney was referring to the fact that 47% of the country doesn't pay tax, and most of them believe government should pay for their stuff. He didn't mention retired people who are drawing Social Security benefits to which they are completely entitled to.
OK Dixie, we're back to this problem with arithmatic many conservatives have. It's a simple logical progression. If 47% of the people who don't pay federal income tax are dependenton goverment and are not responsible for their own lives and if 70% of seniors pay no federal income tax than by default Romney is saying that 70% of seniors are dependent on governent and do not take responsibility for their own lives. Simple arithmatic Dixie.
 
The best defense of Romney's might just be Dixie's: Romney's an idiot that doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
 
Any logical interpretation of what he said (47% not earning enough to owe federal income tax + relying on government assistance or entitlement program) would include seniors, veterans, and working poor. They are included in that 47%. You can not dispute that fact.

Yes, I can dispute that. Of the 100% who make up the American workforce, 47% do not pay taxes. This doesn't include those who are not part of the American workforce because they have retired, or are disabled, or indigently poor. Those individuals are not part of the 100% who work and earn incomes. Therefore, they can't possibly be a part of the 47% Romney was referring to.
 
OK Dixie, we're back to this problem with arithmatic many conservatives have. It's a simple logical progression. If 47% of the people who don't pay federal income tax are dependenton goverment and are not responsible for their own lives and if 70% of seniors pay no federal income tax than by default Romney is saying that 70% of seniors are dependent on governent and do not take responsibility for their own lives. Simple arithmatic Dixie.

No he's not, because the 70% of retirees who pay no income tax are retired and wouldn't owe any income tax. You have to remove them from your equation, because that isn't part of the whole. This is where YOUR arithmetic is failing.
 
Yes, I can dispute that. Of the 100% who make up the American workforce, 47% do not pay taxes. This doesn't include those who are not part of the American workforce because they have retired, or are disabled, or indigently poor. Those individuals are not part of the 100% who work and earn incomes. Therefore, they can't possibly be a part of the 47% Romney was referring to.

Cite your source for these figures, please. :)
 
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